Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Working 6501 Auction
A better question might be "why do some people freak out when things are shown to have value". I just had this conversation yesterday on another mailing list about the Cyclops camera (just the camera head, no boards) that sold for about $2500. "The market has spoken". In this case, I would posit the main reasons for the high price are historical importance (in multiple contexts) and rarity. People don't bat an eye when someone drops serious coin on an old car or an old piece of jewelry. Why should technology be any different? It has arguably made a far deeper impact on society than either cars or jewelry. Can you offer any good reasons why its history should be any less sought-after or valued? -Dave On 6/5/22 15:31, Bob Aviles via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Why!!! On Sunday, June 5, 2022, 02:27:58 PM EDT, Chris Fala via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
A better question might be "why do some people freak out when things are shown to have value".
Especially since people collecting 6501s doesn't exactly rob parts from systems that need them for maintenance/continued operation! Thanks, Jonathan
On 6/5/22 16:30, Jonathan Chapman via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
A better question might be "why do some people freak out when things are shown to have value".
Especially since people collecting 6501s doesn't exactly rob parts from systems that need them for maintenance/continued operation!
Haaa, too true! -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
Gee. I wonder what a TMS9900 in the original 64 pin ceramic package would fetch? Marc On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 1:32 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On 6/5/22 16:30, Jonathan Chapman via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
A better question might be "why do some people freak out when things are shown to have value".
Especially since people collecting 6501s doesn't exactly rob parts from systems that need them for maintenance/continued operation!
Haaa, too true!
-Dave
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
And inflation is hitting too... asset prices are rising... Like it or not, some of these things we considered chattel are ever rarer real collectors items. Heck we had an AUCTION house exhibiting at VCFEast. Like I posted before... https://www.rd.com/list/most-valuable-vintage-computers/ Shocking readers digest is touting old computer resale value. On 6/5/2022 4:32 PM, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On 6/5/22 16:30, Jonathan Chapman via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
A better question might be "why do some people freak out when things are shown to have value".
Especially since people collecting 6501s doesn't exactly rob parts from systems that need them for maintenance/continued operation!
Haaa, too true!
-Dave
People are biased because of their interests. Most people don’t understand that Electronics are collectibles. If it’s a comic book, a baseball card, or some antique everybody understands, so it seems. Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Jun 5, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
A better question might be "why do some people freak out when things are shown to have value".
I just had this conversation yesterday on another mailing list about the Cyclops camera (just the camera head, no boards) that sold for about $2500. "The market has spoken".
In this case, I would posit the main reasons for the high price are historical importance (in multiple contexts) and rarity.
People don't bat an eye when someone drops serious coin on an old car or an old piece of jewelry. Why should technology be any different? It has arguably made a far deeper impact on society than either cars or jewelry. Can you offer any good reasons why its history should be any less sought-after or valued?
-Dave
On 6/5/22 15:31, Bob Aviles via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Why!!! On Sunday, June 5, 2022, 02:27:58 PM EDT, Chris Fala via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
On 6/5/22 20:55, Sentrytv wrote:
People are biased because of their interests.
I'm not sure that's what's going on here.
Most people don’t understand that Electronics are collectibles.
If it’s a comic book, a baseball card, or some antique everybody understands, so it seems.
I think, with the recently-mentioned Readers' Digest article, that this is probably no longer the case. It probably hasn't been for a while, as the news of Apple Is going for such huge money has been all over the nontechnical media. Even the mouth-breathing sportsball types understand it now. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
Those type of people that you mentioned may be aware, but they certainly don’t understand and they don’t appreciate electronics as collectibles. They may appreciate the video gaming industry and their collectibility, but I highly doubt it. Recently, people at Estate Sales and swap meets have been taking advantage of the fact that older Electronics have become collectible. That includes most, if not all, electronic items. But I know for a fact that many others are not aware that their electronics, computers, gaming and such are actually collectible. Mike Rosen Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Jun 6, 2022, at 8:51 AM, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On 6/5/22 20:55, Sentrytv wrote:
People are biased because of their interests.
I'm not sure that's what's going on here.
Most people don’t understand that Electronics are collectibles. If it’s a comic book, a baseball card, or some antique everybody understands, so it seems.
I think, with the recently-mentioned Readers' Digest article, that this is probably no longer the case. It probably hasn't been for a while, as the news of Apple Is going for such huge money has been all over the nontechnical media. Even the mouth-breathing sportsball types understand it now.
-Dave
-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 3:51 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
A better question might be "why do some people freak out when things are shown to have value".
If people are freaking out over CPUs going up in value then they should not look at the video game market. You think vintage computers are going up in price? What I am seeing differently now is the speculators. The people that come and are looking to buy/sell and invest. The auction house that came to VCF to discuss collectables was very different.
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