I'm starting to plan the Friday tech talks for VCF East. Andy D. said he'll do one about TCP/IP for vintage Unix computers. That gave me an idea: what if we do a whole *nix track? There are five classes per track. Each class is one hour. So, please speak up if you'd like to be an instructor. (That's important. We need people to say, "I will do it," not just "Someone should do it.")
What sort of class is wanted? Ideas: 1) vintage Sun hardware 101 2) Solaris or hp-ux primer 3) scsi basics 4) 680x0 workstations and servers (lots of different vendors had them) Others? - Alex On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 7:58 PM Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm starting to plan the Friday tech talks for VCF East.
Andy D. said he'll do one about TCP/IP for vintage Unix computers.
That gave me an idea: what if we do a whole *nix track?
There are five classes per track. Each class is one hour.
So, please speak up if you'd like to be an instructor. (That's important. We need people to say, "I will do it," not just "Someone should do it.")
What sort of class is wanted? Ideas:
1) vintage Sun hardware 101 2) Solaris or hp-ux primer 3) scsi basics 4) 680x0 workstations and servers (lots of different vendors had them)
Others?
How about an overview class of weird/unusual Unixes? I know there's one for Amiga; what others are off the beaten path?
OK, I'll teach that one. - Alex On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 8:25 PM Evan Koblentz <evan@vcfed.org> wrote:
What sort of class is wanted? Ideas:
1) vintage Sun hardware 101 2) Solaris or hp-ux primer 3) scsi basics 4) 680x0 workstations and servers (lots of different vendors had them)
Others?
How about an overview class of weird/unusual Unixes? I know there's one for Amiga; what others are off the beaten path?
Awesome! Thank you sir. On 1/17/19 8:30 PM, J. Alexander Jacocks wrote:
OK, I'll teach that one.
- Alex
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 8:25 PM Evan Koblentz <evan@vcfed.org <mailto:evan@vcfed.org>> wrote:
> What sort of class is wanted? Ideas: > > 1) vintage Sun hardware 101 > 2) Solaris or hp-ux primer > 3) scsi basics > 4) 680x0 workstations and servers (lots of different vendors had them) > > Others?
How about an overview class of weird/unusual Unixes? I know there's one for Amiga; what others are off the beaten path?
-- Evan Koblentz, executive director Vintage Computer Federation www.vcfed.org evan@vcfed.org (646) 546-9999 VCF is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.
Not UNIX, but I'm thinking of doing a design on the obscure PROMAL language for the Commodore 64. On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 8:30 PM Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org wrote:
Awesome! Thank you sir.
On 1/17/19 8:30 PM, J. Alexander Jacocks wrote:
OK, I'll teach that one.
- Alex
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 8:25 PM Evan Koblentz <evan@vcfed.org <mailto:evan@vcfed.org>> wrote:
> What sort of class is wanted? Ideas: > > 1) vintage Sun hardware 101 > 2) Solaris or hp-ux primer > 3) scsi basics > 4) 680x0 workstations and servers (lots of different vendors had them) > > Others?
How about an overview class of weird/unusual Unixes? I know there's one for Amiga; what others are off the beaten path?
-- Evan Koblentz, executive director Vintage Computer Federation
www.vcfed.org evan@vcfed.org (646) 546-9999
VCF is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.
On 2019-01-17 20:25, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
How about an overview class of weird/unusual Unixes? I know there's one for Amiga; what others are off the beaten path?
I suspect 50 years of UNIX will be a theme this year across the show circuit. A group of us is planning a broad exhibit for Southeast. I did a little digging earlier in the week and put together a quick spreadsheet of distinct threads of UNIX, *NIX, and UNIX-like operating systems. I realize this can be a bit of a religious discussion so please don't make me regret speaking up/out. I also don't want the discussion to be epic. I realize I have HeliOS listed as one line same as Linux or BSD. Clearly a universal difference in scope. And I understand NetBSD != OpenBSD != FreeBSD, etc. But I was after variant groupings not every derivative; otherwise I would exceed the 1M row limit in Excel! So if you have specific feedback, maybe reply to me off list and I'll aggregate it and feed a new revision back in a couple days. Otherwise, chime in here as I would appreciate some general feedback :) https://atlhcs.org/tmp/unix_lineage_p1.pdf -Alan
That's quite a nice table. Much appreciated! - Alex On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 9:00 PM alan--- via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
On 2019-01-17 20:25, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
How about an overview class of weird/unusual Unixes? I know there's one for Amiga; what others are off the beaten path?
I suspect 50 years of UNIX will be a theme this year across the show circuit. A group of us is planning a broad exhibit for Southeast. I did a little digging earlier in the week and put together a quick spreadsheet of distinct threads of UNIX, *NIX, and UNIX-like operating systems. I realize this can be a bit of a religious discussion so please don't make me regret speaking up/out. I also don't want the discussion to be epic. I realize I have HeliOS listed as one line same as Linux or BSD. Clearly a universal difference in scope. And I understand NetBSD != OpenBSD != FreeBSD, etc. But I was after variant groupings not every derivative; otherwise I would exceed the 1M row limit in Excel! So if you have specific feedback, maybe reply to me off list and I'll aggregate it and feed a new revision back in a couple days. Otherwise, chime in here as I would appreciate some general feedback :)
https://atlhcs.org/tmp/unix_lineage_p1.pdf
-Alan
Thanks all for the feedback. Added new rows for AOS, CLIX, EWS/UX, UniOS, NEWS-OS, OS/A65 (GeckOS), LUnix, UZI/Fuzix, and OMU. Added new columns for i860, PRISM, ROMP, and Clipper. Fixed a few omissions and formatting issues. Same link. (below) -Alan On 2019-01-17 20:59, alan@alanlee.org wrote:
Evan: have you targeted a date for this year’s VCF East? I didn’t see an announcement or anything on the site... Thx -Glenn Sent from my iPad
On Jan 17, 2019, at 7:57 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm starting to plan the Friday tech talks for VCF East.
Andy D. said he'll do one about TCP/IP for vintage Unix computers.
That gave me an idea: what if we do a whole *nix track?
There are five classes per track. Each class is one hour.
So, please speak up if you'd like to be an instructor. (That's important. We need people to say, "I will do it," not just "Someone should do it.")
I was tossing around the idea of doing a “basic Restoration and troubleshooting your micro computer collection for beginners” class focused on Apple II and compact Macs specifically, since those are in my wheelhouse. Obviously some of the cleaning and basic techniques would apply to other types of machines. The idea is people starting a collection or even those who may have vintage micros but are just starting to add Apple II and/or Compact Macs to their collection and are looking for tips, hints, ideas of where to start and what to do. No oscilloscopes or multimeters, just the basics of cleaning, testing, simple troubleshooting as well as where to find helpful information . I even considered either CDs (which I already have the ISO file to make them, but CDs are fading from daily use) or cheap usb sticks to give to attendees that already have a nice collection of the manuals and how-to books and service notes I’ve collected over the years in pdf format. My concern is the focus may be too narrow to garner any amount of attendance since 90% of the focus is Apple specific. Any thoughts? Tony
I was tossing around the idea of doing a “basic Restoration and troubleshooting your micro computer collection for beginners” class focused on Apple II and compact Macs specifically
Chris F. is doing a basic electronics class, and we always welcome an intro to vintage microcomputer repair class. But it should be brand-agnostic. Probably best if it's taught by someone who has a wide range of systems and experience.
On 2019-01-17 19:57, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I'm starting to plan the Friday tech talks for VCF East.
Andy D. said he'll do one about TCP/IP for vintage Unix computers.
That gave me an idea: what if we do a whole *nix track?
I'm leaning towards some wacky IBM RS/6000 setup for the nacent UNIX workstation group exhibit... and AIX genuinely is weird. This would give me an excuse to really brush up on it, and get a bit more mileage out of whatever hulking beast I haul down there. Thoughts? Feelings? I mean the hardware is *probably* more reliable than the PS/2s were... ;) -- Jameel Akari
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 7:58 PM Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm starting to plan the Friday tech talks for VCF East.
So, please speak up if you'd like to be an instructor. (That's important. We need people to say, "I will do it," not just "Someone should do it.")
With the May date and my work schedule, I can't commit to being on-site and ready-to-go for Friday or else I'd say yes right now. I'd love to be able to do something spectacular for UNIX's 50th but Friday is probably out of reach for me. -ethan
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alan＠alanlee.org -
Ethan Dicks -
Evan Koblentz -
Evan Koblentz -
Glenn Roberts -
J. Alexander Jacocks -
Jameel Akari -
jsalzman＠gmail.com -
Tony Bogan