I find this somewhat amazing. https://hackaday.com/2017/12/30/espple-a-wireless-apple-1-on-an-esp8266/ Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
On Dec 30, 2017, at 11:01 AM, William Dudley via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I find this somewhat amazing.
https://hackaday.com/2017/12/30/espple-a-wireless-apple-1-on-an-esp8266/
Bill Dudley
This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
Assuming you meant the emulator (looks pretty cool to me!) I find it amazing that the hackaday writer doesn't know the difference between the apple I and the apple II, which one was released when and in the same year as the pet and trs-80. Tony
On 12/30/2017 05:24 PM, Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On Dec 30, 2017, at 11:01 AM, William Dudley via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I find this somewhat amazing.
https://hackaday.com/2017/12/30/espple-a-wireless-apple-1-on-an-esp8266/
Bill Dudley
Assuming you meant the emulator (looks pretty cool to me!) I find it amazing that the hackaday writer doesn't know the difference between the apple I and the apple II, which one was released when and in the same year as the pet and trs-80. Tony
Tony, you don't get to use the internet much do you? ;-) Please don't ask them about difference the Apple II and Apple II+. The one thing I remember about the Apple II & II+ was how easy it was to understand the various parts. We'd look up the parts in the manufacturing data books and we could figure out what it did. Then exception was the floppy disk controller but there wasn't much to repair on the drives. I also recall the Apple II manual had the schematics as well as the source code. Or perhaps we had the Sam's Manuals for everything. :-) Happy New year folks. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
Heh, I like Hackaday, but IIRC the last of my projects that got submitted had a "DEFINITELY DON'T USE THIS AND EXPECT THE COMPUTER NOT TO FRY YOU" disclaimer (mains voltage control). It got reported as "and of course it's safe because the computer controls it." :P Thanks, Jonathan On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 7:09 PM, Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2017 05:24 PM, Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On Dec 30, 2017, at 11:01 AM, William Dudley via vcf-midatlantic
<vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
I find this somewhat amazing.
https://hackaday.com/2017/12/30/espple-a-wireless-apple-1-on-an-esp8266/
Bill Dudley
Assuming you meant the emulator (looks pretty cool to me!) I find it
amazing that the hackaday writer doesn't know the difference between the apple I and the apple II, which one was released when and in the same year as the pet and trs-80. Tony
Tony, you don't get to use the internet much do you? ;-)
Please don't ask them about difference the Apple II and Apple II+.
The one thing I remember about the Apple II & II+ was how easy it was to understand the various parts. We'd look up the parts in the manufacturing data books and we could figure out what it did. Then exception was the floppy disk controller but there wasn't much to repair on the drives.
I also recall the Apple II manual had the schematics as well as the source code. Or perhaps we had the Sam's Manuals for everything. :-)
Happy New year folks.
-- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
On 12/30/2017 08:57 PM, systems_glitch via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Heh, I like Hackaday, but IIRC the last of my projects that got submitted had a "DEFINITELY DON'T USE THIS AND EXPECT THE COMPUTER NOT TO FRY YOU" disclaimer (mains voltage control). It got reported as "and of course it's safe because the computer controls it." :P
Uhm, isn't that called home automation? -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
Well, I was using it to run an UV EPROM eraser, so I don't know if that's home automation. The hardware was almost entirely not the point, the "hack" was doing it quickly with a Ruby script using the flow control lines on a USB->RS232 adapter. I figured a lot of young'ns probably didn't know about that. Thanks, Jonathan On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Neil Cherry <ncherry@linuxha.com> wrote:
On 12/30/2017 08:57 PM, systems_glitch via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Heh, I like Hackaday, but IIRC the last of my projects that got submitted had a "DEFINITELY DON'T USE THIS AND EXPECT THE COMPUTER NOT TO FRY YOU" disclaimer (mains voltage control). It got reported as "and of course it's safe because the computer controls it." :P
Uhm, isn't that called home automation?
-- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
Young’ns do it differently… “Alexa, turn on the EPROM eraser for 15 minutes.” “Okay” These kids today. Bob
On Dec 31, 2017, at 10:00 AM, systems_glitch via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Well, I was using it to run an UV EPROM eraser, so I don't know if that's home automation. The hardware was almost entirely not the point, the "hack" was doing it quickly with a Ruby script using the flow control lines on a USB->RS232 adapter. I figured a lot of young'ns probably didn't know about that.
Thanks, Jonathan
Young’ns do it differently today… “Alexa, turn on the EPROM eraser for 15 minutes.” “Okay” These kids today...
On Dec 31, 2017, at 10:00 AM, systems_glitch via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Well, I was using it to run an UV EPROM eraser, so I don't know if that's home automation. The hardware was almost entirely not the point, the "hack" was doing it quickly with a Ruby script using the flow control lines on a USB->RS232 adapter. I figured a lot of young'ns probably didn't know about that.
Thanks, Jonathan
It’s kind of cool how it does the wireless display. Question (it may sound like a noob question), the article says it has a BASIC interpreter, was one available for the Apple I? On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:39 PM Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2017 08:57 PM, systems_glitch via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Heh, I like Hackaday, but IIRC the last of my projects that got submitted had a "DEFINITELY DON'T USE THIS AND EXPECT THE COMPUTER NOT TO FRY YOU" disclaimer (mains voltage control). It got reported as "and of course it's safe because the computer controls it." :P
Uhm, isn't that called home automation?
-- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
-- Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?
On Dec 31, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Joseph Oprysko via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
It’s kind of cool how it does the wireless display.
Question (it may sound like a noob question), the article says it has a BASIC interpreter, was one available for the Apple I?
On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:39 PM Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On 12/30/2017 08:57 PM, systems_glitch via vcf-midatlantic wrote: Heh, I like Hackaday, but IIRC the last of my projects that got submitted had a "DEFINITELY DON'T USE THIS AND EXPECT THE COMPUTER NOT TO FRY YOU" disclaimer (mains voltage control). It got reported as "and of course it's safe because the computer controls it." :P
Uhm, isn't that called home automation?
-- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies
-- Normal Person: Hey, it seems that you know a lot. Geek: To be honest, it's due to all the surfing I do. Normal Person: So you go surfing? Normal Person: But I don't think that has anything to do with knowing a lot... Geek: I think that's wrong on a fundamental level. Normal Person: Huh? Huh? What?
I don’t think it was a true wireless display in the way your thinking, but that it creates a modulated analog TV signal that hooks up to the antenna input of a European TV like a vintage computer (with RF modulator) As for Basic, yes Woz wrote the initial Integer Basic for the Apple-1. Amazingly it was hand assembled on yellow pad paper. Before the cassette adapter was ready, he used to be able to type it in by hand, all 4K, without a mistake to very quickly to demonstrate the Apple-1.
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