I have 3 - 5 that roughly fit into that category. 1 is definitely sff, an HP dc7600, p4. The other is even smaller, an off the wall Acer. The other HP am3/3+ is also sff come to think of it. I don't see why that would matter. There's an education to be had in each. The last machine is a uatx tower, asus parts. None of these have os's nor even hard disks, except the dc7600. But all have keys iirc. I have a hernia making/busting Dell server that i may donate down the road. On Monday, January 31, 2022, 05:22:55 PM EST, Adam Michlin via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote: Hi Everyone, As many of you know, I teach computer science at Red Bank Regional High School in Little Silver, NJ. I'm trying to help my colleague who teaches IT. He does a lot of projects where the students take apart computers and put them back together (a project near and dear to mine and many of your hearts), but his class sizes are outpacing his supply of PCs. I'm hoping to collect 10-15 not so vintage PCs (core 2 duos and P4s are fine, but obviously we won't complain about better machines). The key is they have to be normal sized PCs, the kind that make it relatively easy for a 9th or 10th grader student to take it apart and put it back together. So no small form factor PCs or laptops. These would be donations and individual machines are fine.  If you happen to be downsizing your desktop PCs at the office, that would be even better. Working or not working. I can pick up in most of NJ and will be at the VCF Swap Meet at InfoAge on February 26th, as well. Please contact me directly off list at <adam.michlin@vcfed.org> if you have any offers or questions. Thank you for your consideration,         -Adam