Seeking Applesauce FDC testimonials
I'm wondering how comprehensive a solution it has become and how well it works on all supported formats. If anyone recommends it from first hand experience for doing all the disk formats that it is supposed do, please contact me off list. (I have done disk image management with all the varied tools but if Applesause does it all well with one package I may go this way for the museum and warehouse use. I need to know before I set up all the old stand-byes to support our disk imaging) - Doug Crawford VCF Museum Mgr
Doug, AppleSauce is quite a flexible disk imaging and creating system. John Morris has expanded the tool far beyond its original purpose of Apple II disk management. I have used it to create disks of quite a number of formats, and find that it works as described, and is far easier to use than most other imaging tools. Additionally, John is quite receptive to requests for new formats and features. - Alex
On Jan 25, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm wondering how comprehensive a solution it has become and how well it works on all supported formats.
If anyone recommends it from first hand experience for doing all the disk formats that it is supposed do, please contact me off list.
(I have done disk image management with all the varied tools but if Applesause does it all well with one package I may go this way for the museum and warehouse use. I need to know before I set up all the old stand-byes to support our disk imaging)
- Doug Crawford VCF Museum Mgr
Follow up- David R. gave me a generous amount of time today on the phone and its clear to me expanding our Applesauce allow attachment of an IBM type 5 1/4" and 8" drives will cover some high 90% of disk creating that we need in the museum. It will provide a single method/user interface that enable non-expert users to create needed media from images on demand across most all the micros in the museum- Apple, Atari, Amiga, PC, CP/M. I plan to get more familiar with the Applesause system and the support facilities available. Soon I will gather the upgrade and extra materials we would need to account for everything to make the expanded system. Following that, we will assemble the pieces and work up the functional capabilities at workshops. FYI- Media preservation/data recovery is a different effort and will follow this effort. It would likely be located in the warehouse. I anticipate using a similar applesause system for as much as we can, and augment with whatever other systems necessary things it cannot do. Hopefully folks really interested in working this part of the operation will be able to come forward for lending expertise. On 1/25/2023 7:04 PM, Alexander Jacocks wrote:
Doug,
AppleSauce is quite a flexible disk imaging and creating system. John Morris has expanded the tool far beyond its original purpose of Apple II disk management.
I have used it to create disks of quite a number of formats, and find that it works as described, and is far easier to use than most other imaging tools.
Additionally, John is quite receptive to requests for new formats and features.
- Alex
On Jan 25, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm wondering how comprehensive a solution it has become and how well it works on all supported formats.
If anyone recommends it from first hand experience for doing all the disk formats that it is supposed do, please contact me off list.
(I have done disk image management with all the varied tools but if Applesause does it all well with one package I may go this way for the museum and warehouse use. I need to know before I set up all the old stand-byes to support our disk imaging)
- Doug Crawford VCF Museum Mgr
Hey here’s an idea. For those people who don’t know and are willing to learn about Applesauce and reading / writing old discs. How about having a Workshop/seminar on this topic and a having a full demonstration and class about it? Mike Rosen Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Jan 26, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Follow up-
David R. gave me a generous amount of time today on the phone and its clear to me expanding our Applesauce allow attachment of an IBM type 5 1/4" and 8" drives will cover some high 90% of disk creating that we need in the museum. It will provide a single method/user interface that enable non-expert users to create needed media from images on demand across most all the micros in the museum- Apple, Atari, Amiga, PC, CP/M.
I plan to get more familiar with the Applesause system and the support facilities available. Soon I will gather the upgrade and extra materials we would need to account for everything to make the expanded system. Following that, we will assemble the pieces and work up the functional capabilities at workshops.
FYI- Media preservation/data recovery is a different effort and will follow this effort. It would likely be located in the warehouse. I anticipate using a similar applesause system for as much as we can, and augment with whatever other systems necessary things it cannot do. Hopefully folks really interested in working this part of the operation will be able to come forward for lending expertise.
On 1/25/2023 7:04 PM, Alexander Jacocks wrote: Doug, AppleSauce is quite a flexible disk imaging and creating system. John Morris has expanded the tool far beyond its original purpose of Apple II disk management. I have used it to create disks of quite a number of formats, and find that it works as described, and is far easier to use than most other imaging tools. Additionally, John is quite receptive to requests for new formats and features. - Alex
On Jan 25, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm wondering how comprehensive a solution it has become and how well it works on all supported formats.
If anyone recommends it from first hand experience for doing all the disk formats that it is supposed do, please contact me off list.
(I have done disk image management with all the varied tools but if Applesause does it all well with one package I may go this way for the museum and warehouse use. I need to know before I set up all the old stand-byes to support our disk imaging)
- Doug Crawford VCF Museum Mgr
Yep. Probably time to do that. It was covered at VCF East classes some years. Maybe time to do it again. Could do it at a workshop too. On 1/26/2023 3:29 PM, Sentrytv wrote:
Hey here’s an idea.
For those people who don’t know and are willing to learn about Applesauce and reading / writing old discs.
How about having a Workshop/seminar on this topic and a having a full demonstration and class about it?
Mike Rosen
Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Jan 26, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Follow up-
David R. gave me a generous amount of time today on the phone and its clear to me expanding our Applesauce allow attachment of an IBM type 5 1/4" and 8" drives will cover some high 90% of disk creating that we need in the museum. It will provide a single method/user interface that enable non-expert users to create needed media from images on demand across most all the micros in the museum- Apple, Atari, Amiga, PC, CP/M.
I plan to get more familiar with the Applesause system and the support facilities available. Soon I will gather the upgrade and extra materials we would need to account for everything to make the expanded system. Following that, we will assemble the pieces and work up the functional capabilities at workshops.
FYI- Media preservation/data recovery is a different effort and will follow this effort. It would likely be located in the warehouse. I anticipate using a similar applesause system for as much as we can, and augment with whatever other systems necessary things it cannot do. Hopefully folks really interested in working this part of the operation will be able to come forward for lending expertise.
On 1/25/2023 7:04 PM, Alexander Jacocks wrote: Doug, AppleSauce is quite a flexible disk imaging and creating system. John Morris has expanded the tool far beyond its original purpose of Apple II disk management. I have used it to create disks of quite a number of formats, and find that it works as described, and is far easier to use than most other imaging tools. Additionally, John is quite receptive to requests for new formats and features. - Alex
On Jan 25, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm wondering how comprehensive a solution it has become and how well it works on all supported formats.
If anyone recommends it from first hand experience for doing all the disk formats that it is supposed do, please contact me off list.
(I have done disk image management with all the varied tools but if Applesause does it all well with one package I may go this way for the museum and warehouse use. I need to know before I set up all the old stand-byes to support our disk imaging)
- Doug Crawford VCF Museum Mgr
I have several Apple sauce units, including the beta unit I used to help with initial testing. I have not upgraded anything recently but my setup should be equivalent to what the museum currently has. The spare unit I have I will bring to the museum next time I’m there and donate it so VCF will have two working setups. Upgrades etc can be done as you see fit. I never had a use for it, I only purchased it to support the effort and community. Tony Bogan Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 26, 2023, at 4:41 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Yep. Probably time to do that. It was covered at VCF East classes some years. Maybe time to do it again. Could do it at a workshop too.
On 1/26/2023 3:29 PM, Sentrytv wrote: Hey here’s an idea. For those people who don’t know and are willing to learn about Applesauce and reading / writing old discs. How about having a Workshop/seminar on this topic and a having a full demonstration and class about it? Mike Rosen Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Jan 26, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Follow up-
David R. gave me a generous amount of time today on the phone and its clear to me expanding our Applesauce allow attachment of an IBM type 5 1/4" and 8" drives will cover some high 90% of disk creating that we need in the museum. It will provide a single method/user interface that enable non-expert users to create needed media from images on demand across most all the micros in the museum- Apple, Atari, Amiga, PC, CP/M.
I plan to get more familiar with the Applesause system and the support facilities available. Soon I will gather the upgrade and extra materials we would need to account for everything to make the expanded system. Following that, we will assemble the pieces and work up the functional capabilities at workshops.
FYI- Media preservation/data recovery is a different effort and will follow this effort. It would likely be located in the warehouse. I anticipate using a similar applesause system for as much as we can, and augment with whatever other systems necessary things it cannot do. Hopefully folks really interested in working this part of the operation will be able to come forward for lending expertise.
On 1/25/2023 7:04 PM, Alexander Jacocks wrote: Doug, AppleSauce is quite a flexible disk imaging and creating system. John Morris has expanded the tool far beyond its original purpose of Apple II disk management. I have used it to create disks of quite a number of formats, and find that it works as described, and is far easier to use than most other imaging tools. Additionally, John is quite receptive to requests for new formats and features. - Alex
On Jan 25, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm wondering how comprehensive a solution it has become and how well it works on all supported formats.
If anyone recommends it from first hand experience for doing all the disk formats that it is supposed do, please contact me off list.
(I have done disk image management with all the varied tools but if Applesause does it all well with one package I may go this way for the museum and warehouse use. I need to know before I set up all the old stand-byes to support our disk imaging)
- Doug Crawford VCF Museum Mgr
Very nice- Thanks Tony for the contribution of the unit and your support of the development of the product! On 1/26/2023 7:03 PM, Tony Bogan wrote:
I have several Apple sauce units, including the beta unit I used to help with initial testing. I have not upgraded anything recently but my setup should be equivalent to what the museum currently has. The spare unit I have I will bring to the museum next time I’m there and donate it so VCF will have two working setups. Upgrades etc can be done as you see fit. I never had a use for it, I only purchased it to support the effort and community.
Tony Bogan
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 26, 2023, at 4:41 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Yep. Probably time to do that. It was covered at VCF East classes some years. Maybe time to do it again. Could do it at a workshop too.
On 1/26/2023 3:29 PM, Sentrytv wrote: Hey here’s an idea. For those people who don’t know and are willing to learn about Applesauce and reading / writing old discs. How about having a Workshop/seminar on this topic and a having a full demonstration and class about it? Mike Rosen Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Jan 26, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Follow up-
David R. gave me a generous amount of time today on the phone and its clear to me expanding our Applesauce allow attachment of an IBM type 5 1/4" and 8" drives will cover some high 90% of disk creating that we need in the museum. It will provide a single method/user interface that enable non-expert users to create needed media from images on demand across most all the micros in the museum- Apple, Atari, Amiga, PC, CP/M.
I plan to get more familiar with the Applesause system and the support facilities available. Soon I will gather the upgrade and extra materials we would need to account for everything to make the expanded system. Following that, we will assemble the pieces and work up the functional capabilities at workshops.
FYI- Media preservation/data recovery is a different effort and will follow this effort. It would likely be located in the warehouse. I anticipate using a similar applesause system for as much as we can, and augment with whatever other systems necessary things it cannot do. Hopefully folks really interested in working this part of the operation will be able to come forward for lending expertise.
On 1/25/2023 7:04 PM, Alexander Jacocks wrote: Doug, AppleSauce is quite a flexible disk imaging and creating system. John Morris has expanded the tool far beyond its original purpose of Apple II disk management. I have used it to create disks of quite a number of formats, and find that it works as described, and is far easier to use than most other imaging tools. Additionally, John is quite receptive to requests for new formats and features. - Alex
> On Jan 25, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm wondering how comprehensive a solution it has become and how well it works on all supported formats.
If anyone recommends it from first hand experience for doing all the disk formats that it is supposed do, please contact me off list.
(I have done disk image management with all the varied tools but if Applesause does it all well with one package I may go this way for the museum and warehouse use. I need to know before I set up all the old stand-byes to support our disk imaging)
- Doug Crawford VCF Museum Mgr
Would it be better if a couple people could cover the current options or in depth on just the Applesauce? On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 04:40:41PM -0500, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Yep. Probably time to do that. It was covered at VCF East classes some years. Maybe time to do it again. Could do it at a workshop too.
On 1/26/2023 3:29 PM, Sentrytv wrote:
Hey here’s an idea.
For those people who don’t know and are willing to learn about Applesauce and reading / writing old discs.
How about having a Workshop/seminar on this topic and a having a full demonstration and class about it?
Mike Rosen
Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Jan 26, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Follow up-
David R. gave me a generous amount of time today on the phone and its clear to me expanding our Applesauce allow attachment of an IBM type 5 1/4" and 8" drives will cover some high 90% of disk creating that we need in the museum. It will provide a single method/user interface that enable non-expert users to create needed media from images on demand across most all the micros in the museum- Apple, Atari, Amiga, PC, CP/M.
I plan to get more familiar with the Applesause system and the support facilities available. Soon I will gather the upgrade and extra materials we would need to account for everything to make the expanded system. Following that, we will assemble the pieces and work up the functional capabilities at workshops.
FYI- Media preservation/data recovery is a different effort and will follow this effort. It would likely be located in the warehouse. I anticipate using a similar applesause system for as much as we can, and augment with whatever other systems necessary things it cannot do. Hopefully folks really interested in working this part of the operation will be able to come forward for lending expertise.
On 1/25/2023 7:04 PM, Alexander Jacocks wrote: Doug, AppleSauce is quite a flexible disk imaging and creating system. John Morris has expanded the tool far beyond its original purpose of Apple II disk management. I have used it to create disks of quite a number of formats, and find that it works as described, and is far easier to use than most other imaging tools. Additionally, John is quite receptive to requests for new formats and features. - Alex
On Jan 25, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm wondering how comprehensive a solution it has become and how well it works on all supported formats.
If anyone recommends it from first hand experience for doing all the disk formats that it is supposed do, please contact me off list.
(I have done disk image management with all the varied tools but if Applesause does it all well with one package I may go this way for the museum and warehouse use. I need to know before I set up all the old stand-byes to support our disk imaging)
- Doug Crawford VCF Museum Mgr
Could be either. Past training session, I recall, went over the popular options in general- especially regarding what things they do well that others don't. I could also see the use of a deep dive on one in particular especially if it is quite universal. Maybe that is AppleSauce. On 1/27/2023 10:33 AM, David Gesswein via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Would it be better if a couple people could cover the current options or in depth on just the Applesauce?
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 04:40:41PM -0500, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
Yep. Probably time to do that. It was covered at VCF East classes some years. Maybe time to do it again. Could do it at a workshop too.
On 1/26/2023 3:29 PM, Sentrytv wrote:
Hey here’s an idea.
For those people who don’t know and are willing to learn about Applesauce and reading / writing old discs.
How about having a Workshop/seminar on this topic and a having a full demonstration and class about it?
Mike Rosen
Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Jan 26, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Follow up-
David R. gave me a generous amount of time today on the phone and its clear to me expanding our Applesauce allow attachment of an IBM type 5 1/4" and 8" drives will cover some high 90% of disk creating that we need in the museum. It will provide a single method/user interface that enable non-expert users to create needed media from images on demand across most all the micros in the museum- Apple, Atari, Amiga, PC, CP/M.
I plan to get more familiar with the Applesause system and the support facilities available. Soon I will gather the upgrade and extra materials we would need to account for everything to make the expanded system. Following that, we will assemble the pieces and work up the functional capabilities at workshops.
FYI- Media preservation/data recovery is a different effort and will follow this effort. It would likely be located in the warehouse. I anticipate using a similar applesause system for as much as we can, and augment with whatever other systems necessary things it cannot do. Hopefully folks really interested in working this part of the operation will be able to come forward for lending expertise.
On 1/25/2023 7:04 PM, Alexander Jacocks wrote: Doug, AppleSauce is quite a flexible disk imaging and creating system. John Morris has expanded the tool far beyond its original purpose of Apple II disk management. I have used it to create disks of quite a number of formats, and find that it works as described, and is far easier to use than most other imaging tools. Additionally, John is quite receptive to requests for new formats and features. - Alex
> On Jan 25, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm wondering how comprehensive a solution it has become and how well it works on all supported formats.
If anyone recommends it from first hand experience for doing all the disk formats that it is supposed do, please contact me off list.
(I have done disk image management with all the varied tools but if Applesause does it all well with one package I may go this way for the museum and warehouse use. I need to know before I set up all the old stand-byes to support our disk imaging)
- Doug Crawford VCF Museum Mgr
Personally, maybe a Seminar / class on basics and then get into the details. Getting to know the hardware, the capabilities, then actually doing some disk imaging and creating. Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Jan 27, 2023, at 10:33 AM, David Gesswein via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Would it be better if a couple people could cover the current options or in depth on just the Applesauce?
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 04:40:41PM -0500, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic wrote: Yep. Probably time to do that. It was covered at VCF East classes some years. Maybe time to do it again. Could do it at a workshop too.
On 1/26/2023 3:29 PM, Sentrytv wrote: Hey here’s an idea.
For those people who don’t know and are willing to learn about Applesauce and reading / writing old discs.
How about having a Workshop/seminar on this topic and a having a full demonstration and class about it?
Mike Rosen
Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Jan 26, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Follow up-
David R. gave me a generous amount of time today on the phone and its clear to me expanding our Applesauce allow attachment of an IBM type 5 1/4" and 8" drives will cover some high 90% of disk creating that we need in the museum. It will provide a single method/user interface that enable non-expert users to create needed media from images on demand across most all the micros in the museum- Apple, Atari, Amiga, PC, CP/M.
I plan to get more familiar with the Applesause system and the support facilities available. Soon I will gather the upgrade and extra materials we would need to account for everything to make the expanded system. Following that, we will assemble the pieces and work up the functional capabilities at workshops.
FYI- Media preservation/data recovery is a different effort and will follow this effort. It would likely be located in the warehouse. I anticipate using a similar applesause system for as much as we can, and augment with whatever other systems necessary things it cannot do. Hopefully folks really interested in working this part of the operation will be able to come forward for lending expertise.
On 1/25/2023 7:04 PM, Alexander Jacocks wrote: Doug, AppleSauce is quite a flexible disk imaging and creating system. John Morris has expanded the tool far beyond its original purpose of Apple II disk management. I have used it to create disks of quite a number of formats, and find that it works as described, and is far easier to use than most other imaging tools. Additionally, John is quite receptive to requests for new formats and features. - Alex
> On Jan 25, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm wondering how comprehensive a solution it has become and how well it works on all supported formats.
If anyone recommends it from first hand experience for doing all the disk formats that it is supposed do, please contact me off list.
(I have done disk image management with all the varied tools but if Applesause does it all well with one package I may go this way for the museum and warehouse use. I need to know before I set up all the old stand-byes to support our disk imaging)
- Doug Crawford VCF Museum Mgr
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 03:22:47PM -0500, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
FYI- Media preservation/data recovery is a different effort and will follow this effort. It would likely be located in the warehouse. I anticipate using a similar applesause system for as much as we can, and augment with whatever other systems necessary things it cannot do. Hopefully folks really interested in working this part of the operation will be able to come forward for lending expertise.
I can support for ST-506 type drives. I've only used imd and kryloflux for floppy.
See below. On 1/27/2023 10:37 AM, David Gesswein via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 03:22:47PM -0500, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
FYI- Media preservation/data recovery is a different effort and will follow this effort. It would likely be located in the warehouse. I anticipate using a similar applesause system for as much as we can, and augment with whatever other systems necessary things it cannot do. Hopefully folks really interested in working this part of the operation will be able to come forward for lending expertise.
I can support for ST-506 type drives. I've only used imd and kryloflux for floppy.
Thank you, I was tunnel visioned on removable media, mainly flopppies but yes there is wider media need in mostly in the preservation in the warehouse, a bit also in the museum too so we can recover exhibits from loss of data. Some are already running substitute modern memory Card replacements for ease of backup and replacement. We also have tape to contend with. So this is a bigger subject than the applesause application at VCF Mid Atlantic.
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 10:57:10AM -0500, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
We also have tape to contend with.
I'm also working on reader for DEC/LINC tapes though not performing as well as I like that hopefully will be an option to use with one of your drives. Chuck on the forum made a Pertec reader that with one of your drive in the museum may be a good option for 1/2". Working drive on a classic computer may be useable if it can do image reads and you have a way to get the data off.
So this is a bigger subject than the applesause application at VCF Mid Atlantic.
Yup. Everything gets more complicated as you look into the details.
I welcome a bit of illumination to help me form a vision of the totality of the problems. On the tape subject, one practical need I'd like to crack this year is archiving the UNIVAC 1219 tapes. Lets start a new thread on tapes if anyone has more to offer at this time. On 1/27/2023 11:19 AM, David Gesswein via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 10:57:10AM -0500, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
We also have tape to contend with.
I'm also working on reader for DEC/LINC tapes though not performing as well as I like that hopefully will be an option to use with one of your drives. Chuck on the forum made a Pertec reader that with one of your drive in the museum may be a good option for 1/2". Working drive on a classic computer may be useable if it can do image reads and you have a way to get the data off.
So this is a bigger subject than the applesause application at VCF Mid Atlantic.
Yup. Everything gets more complicated as you look into the details.
On 1/27/23 11:40, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I welcome a bit of illumination to help me form a vision of the totality of the problems. On the tape subject, one practical need I'd like to crack this year is archiving the UNIVAC 1219 tapes. Lets start a new thread on tapes if anyone has more to offer at this time.
We do a lot of tape archiving at LSSM, and can help with some of this. Are the Univac's tapes 7-track, or 9? -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
The Univac tapes are 7 track.Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Date: 1/27/23 11:41 AM (GMT-05:00) To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Dave McGuire <mcguire@neurotica.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Seeking Applesauce FDC testimonials - museum use On 1/27/23 11:40, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic wrote:> I welcome a bit of illumination to help me form> a vision of the totality of the problems.> On the tape subject, one practical need I'd like to> crack this year is archiving the UNIVAC 1219 tapes.> Lets start a new thread on tapes if anyone has more to> offer at this time. We do a lot of tape archiving at LSSM, and can help with some of this. Are the Univac's tapes 7-track, or 9? -Dave-- Dave McGuire, AK4HZNew Kensington, PA
Dave, The Univac 1219 tapes are: 7 track/ 556 bits per inch/ redundant format (3 data bits written twice across the head)/ Modulus 3 (three 6 bit data words transmitted to the computer as one 18 bit word. Also have a few 1218 NTDS tapes that I think were 200 bpi/ non redundant. I don't know of anyone with an operational 7 track machine. We don't want to place those tapes on the drive unless we have the machine up to the point we can copy tapes. My wife cant be left alone so I can't come up now. Might be a chance in the spring if I can get her daughter to stay long enough. Duane On 1/27/2023 11:41 AM, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
On 1/27/23 11:40, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I welcome a bit of illumination to help me form a vision of the totality of the problems. On the tape subject, one practical need I'd like to crack this year is archiving the UNIVAC 1219 tapes. Lets start a new thread on tapes if anyone has more to offer at this time.
We do a lot of tape archiving at LSSM, and can help with some of this.
Are the Univac's tapes 7-track, or 9?
-Dave
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