"Why??? I’m looking for something to use with an IDE adapter on my Lisa, and [I] want it to sound interesting." It's a little amusing, to ask for hard drives based on acoustics. I'm an old person from a different time; I guess it's a thing now. (Yes, I know there's videos of stacks of drives playing tunes, thank you.) When drive stepping was noisier, it was a diagnostic, more convenient than a blinking "drive activity" LED. I'm guessing, the Lisa may not accept any ancient IDE hard-drive. I know that some really old IDE hard drives have "the wrong" IDE interface (8 bit data and not standard 16 bit data). Is there a list of IDE hard drive brand/models the Lisa could reasonably use? So - is there really a demand for "acoustic" IDE hard drives? Also, with a sound like a winding up jet engine as they start up? I can dig up some of these. No warranties. Herb -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net
I'm using Dr. Schaeffer's IDEFile: http://john.ccac.rwth-aachen.de:8000/patrick/idefile.htm So I would need a 16 bit ATA drive. As far as sound, I was looking for something with an audible seek, but quiet spindle. The Lisa's original Widget drive has a rather unique sound, and I want to capture some of that uniqueness with the IDEfile. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ADMHAdSNpM In one of my IDEFiles I have a ~200 mb Quantum drive. It makes some nice unique sounds, but is developing stiction issues. -J On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 11:22 AM Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
"Why??? I’m looking for something to use with an IDE adapter on my Lisa, and [I] want it to sound interesting."
It's a little amusing, to ask for hard drives based on acoustics. I'm an old person from a different time; I guess it's a thing now. (Yes, I know there's videos of stacks of drives playing tunes, thank you.) When drive stepping was noisier, it was a diagnostic, more convenient than a blinking "drive activity" LED.
I'm guessing, the Lisa may not accept any ancient IDE hard-drive. I know that some really old IDE hard drives have "the wrong" IDE interface (8 bit data and not standard 16 bit data). Is there a list of IDE hard drive brand/models the Lisa could reasonably use?
So - is there really a demand for "acoustic" IDE hard drives? Also, with a sound like a winding up jet engine as they start up? I can dig up some of these. No warranties.
Herb
-- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
The 20Meg miniscribes on the early MacSE's had the sound you describe. They used a big stepper motor and not a voice coil to move the heads. That may be the sound you are trying to capture. I think i have a few of them around, i'll see if any spin up in an external scsi enclosure. If they do i'll bring it Sat. -andy
On Jan 10, 2019, at 7:43 AM, Jason Perkins via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm using Dr. Schaeffer's IDEFile: http://john.ccac.rwth-aachen.de:8000/patrick/idefile.htm
So I would need a 16 bit ATA drive. As far as sound, I was looking for something with an audible seek, but quiet spindle. The Lisa's original Widget drive has a rather unique sound, and I want to capture some of that uniqueness with the IDEfile. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ADMHAdSNpM
In one of my IDEFiles I have a ~200 mb Quantum drive. It makes some nice unique sounds, but is developing stiction issues.
-J
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 11:22 AM Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
"Why??? I’m looking for something to use with an IDE adapter on my Lisa, and [I] want it to sound interesting."
It's a little amusing, to ask for hard drives based on acoustics. I'm an old person from a different time; I guess it's a thing now. (Yes, I know there's videos of stacks of drives playing tunes, thank you.) When drive stepping was noisier, it was a diagnostic, more convenient than a blinking "drive activity" LED.
I'm guessing, the Lisa may not accept any ancient IDE hard-drive. I know that some really old IDE hard drives have "the wrong" IDE interface (8 bit data and not standard 16 bit data). Is there a list of IDE hard drive brand/models the Lisa could reasonably use?
So - is there really a demand for "acoustic" IDE hard drives? Also, with a sound like a winding up jet engine as they start up? I can dig up some of these. No warranties.
Herb
-- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
I don't think I can make it to this workshop :( I'm also looking for a 16 bit ATA drive, not SCSI. On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 8:35 AM Andrew Diller <dillera@gmail.com> wrote:
The 20Meg miniscribes on the early MacSE's had the sound you describe. They used a big stepper motor and not a voice coil to move the heads. That may be the sound you are trying to capture.
I think i have a few of them around, i'll see if any spin up in an external scsi enclosure.
If they do i'll bring it Sat.
-andy
On Jan 10, 2019, at 7:43 AM, Jason Perkins via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm using Dr. Schaeffer's IDEFile: http://john.ccac.rwth-aachen.de:8000/patrick/idefile.htm
So I would need a 16 bit ATA drive. As far as sound, I was looking for something with an audible seek, but quiet spindle. The Lisa's original Widget drive has a rather unique sound, and I want to capture some of that uniqueness with the IDEfile. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ADMHAdSNpM
In one of my IDEFiles I have a ~200 mb Quantum drive. It makes some nice unique sounds, but is developing stiction issues.
-J
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 11:22 AM Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
"Why??? I’m looking for something to use with an IDE adapter on my Lisa, and [I] want it to sound interesting."
It's a little amusing, to ask for hard drives based on acoustics. I'm an old person from a different time; I guess it's a thing now. (Yes, I know there's videos of stacks of drives playing tunes, thank you.) When drive stepping was noisier, it was a diagnostic, more convenient than a blinking "drive activity" LED.
I'm guessing, the Lisa may not accept any ancient IDE hard-drive. I know that some really old IDE hard drives have "the wrong" IDE interface (8 bit data and not standard 16 bit data). Is there a list of IDE hard drive brand/models the Lisa could reasonably use?
So - is there really a demand for "acoustic" IDE hard drives? Also, with a sound like a winding up jet engine as they start up? I can dig up some of these. No warranties.
Herb
-- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
Right - but it sounds like you want the sound of the original drive. I was offering you the chance to record the sound you want, coming from the Miniscribe. On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:51 AM Jason Perkins <perkins.jason@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think I can make it to this workshop :(
I'm also looking for a 16 bit ATA drive, not SCSI.
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 8:35 AM Andrew Diller <dillera@gmail.com> wrote:
The 20Meg miniscribes on the early MacSE's had the sound you describe. They used a big stepper motor and not a voice coil to move the heads. That may be the sound you are trying to capture.
I think i have a few of them around, i'll see if any spin up in an external scsi enclosure.
If they do i'll bring it Sat.
-andy
On Jan 10, 2019, at 7:43 AM, Jason Perkins via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm using Dr. Schaeffer's IDEFile: http://john.ccac.rwth-aachen.de:8000/patrick/idefile.htm
So I would need a 16 bit ATA drive. As far as sound, I was looking for something with an audible seek, but quiet spindle. The Lisa's original Widget drive has a rather unique sound, and I want to capture some of that uniqueness with the IDEfile. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ADMHAdSNpM
In one of my IDEFiles I have a ~200 mb Quantum drive. It makes some nice unique sounds, but is developing stiction issues.
-J
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 11:22 AM Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
"Why??? I’m looking for something to use with an IDE adapter on my Lisa, and [I] want it to sound interesting."
It's a little amusing, to ask for hard drives based on acoustics. I'm an old person from a different time; I guess it's a thing now. (Yes, I know there's videos of stacks of drives playing tunes, thank you.) When drive stepping was noisier, it was a diagnostic, more convenient than a blinking "drive activity" LED.
I'm guessing, the Lisa may not accept any ancient IDE hard-drive. I know that some really old IDE hard drives have "the wrong" IDE interface (8 bit data and not standard 16 bit data). Is there a list of IDE hard drive brand/models the Lisa could reasonably use?
So - is there really a demand for "acoustic" IDE hard drives? Also, with a sound like a winding up jet engine as they start up? I can dig up some of these. No warranties.
Herb
-- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
Ah, thanks Andrew! I should have been more clear, I already having one of those. https://youtu.be/k1mSnPxRmis On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 1:20 PM Andrew Diller <dillera@gmail.com> wrote:
Right - but it sounds like you want the sound of the original drive. I was offering you the chance to record the sound you want, coming from the Miniscribe.
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:51 AM Jason Perkins <perkins.jason@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think I can make it to this workshop :(
I'm also looking for a 16 bit ATA drive, not SCSI.
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 8:35 AM Andrew Diller <dillera@gmail.com> wrote:
The 20Meg miniscribes on the early MacSE's had the sound you describe. They used a big stepper motor and not a voice coil to move the heads. That may be the sound you are trying to capture.
I think i have a few of them around, i'll see if any spin up in an external scsi enclosure.
If they do i'll bring it Sat.
-andy
On Jan 10, 2019, at 7:43 AM, Jason Perkins via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I'm using Dr. Schaeffer's IDEFile: http://john.ccac.rwth-aachen.de:8000/patrick/idefile.htm
So I would need a 16 bit ATA drive. As far as sound, I was looking for something with an audible seek, but quiet spindle. The Lisa's original Widget drive has a rather unique sound, and I want to capture some of that uniqueness with the IDEfile. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ADMHAdSNpM
In one of my IDEFiles I have a ~200 mb Quantum drive. It makes some nice unique sounds, but is developing stiction issues.
-J
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 11:22 AM Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
"Why??? I’m looking for something to use with an IDE adapter on my Lisa, and [I] want it to sound interesting."
It's a little amusing, to ask for hard drives based on acoustics. I'm an old person from a different time; I guess it's a thing now. (Yes, I know there's videos of stacks of drives playing tunes, thank you.) When drive stepping was noisier, it was a diagnostic, more convenient than a blinking "drive activity" LED.
I'm guessing, the Lisa may not accept any ancient IDE hard-drive. I know that some really old IDE hard drives have "the wrong" IDE interface (8 bit data and not standard 16 bit data). Is there a list of IDE hard drive brand/models the Lisa could reasonably use?
So - is there really a demand for "acoustic" IDE hard drives? Also, with a sound like a winding up jet engine as they start up? I can dig up some of these. No warranties.
Herb
-- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
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