Yes, I know I missed them at the swap meet, oops. Now I'm looking for one tube for a Mac SE and the other tube for a Sanyo VM4509. Any recommendations? -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies KD2ZRQ