So I have a gmail account since this list doesn't work with my msn account. I have no idea if that has anything to do with it. Whenever I post something, my own post doesn't show up, but when someone replies, then I see my post. Is anyone else experiencing this?
On Mar 21, 2016, at 10:08 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: So I have a gmail account since this list doesn't work with my msn account. I have no idea if that has anything to do with it. Whenever I post something, my own post doesn't show up, but when someone replies, then I see my post. Is anyone else experiencing this? ------------ Same for me. Chris F.
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:18 PM, chrisjpf33--- via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Mar 21, 2016, at 10:08 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
So I have a gmail account since this list doesn't work with my msn account. I have no idea if that has anything to do with it.
Whenever I post something, my own post doesn't show up, but when someone replies, then I see my post.
Is anyone else experiencing this?
------------
Same for me.
Chris F.
I think that's by design b -- @ BillDeg: Web: vintagecomputer.net Twitter: @billdeg <https://twitter.com/billdeg> Youtube: @billdeg <https://www.youtube.com/user/billdeg> Unauthorized Bio <http://www.vintagecomputer.net/readme.cfm>
On 3/22/2016 7:54 AM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I think that's by design No. There is an option you select during subscription to not see your own replies. However, Chris F. and Jeff B. do not have that flag set in their subscriptions, so I have no explanation for why they can't see their own posts.
It is a Gmail thing; if it detects a mailing list post (i.e. a redirected post from a list address which someone has just sent), it will delete it(?) rather than sending it to your mailbox ever. Or so I think. -- Jonathan Gevaryahu jgevaryahu@gmail.com jgevaryahu@hotmail.com
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 7:57 AM, Jonathan Gevaryahu via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On 3/22/2016 7:54 AM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I think that's by design
No. There is an option you select during subscription to not see your own replies. However, Chris F. and Jeff B. do not have that flag set in their subscriptions, so I have no explanation for why they can't see their own posts.
It is a Gmail thing; if it detects a mailing list post (i.e. a redirected post from a list address which someone has just sent), it will delete it(?) rather than sending it to your mailbox ever. Or so I think.
oh yea, I've seen this many times on any mailing list, not just here. Gmail, I think others too these days, Thunderbird comes to mind, have a mechanism to avoid duplicate emails. So whenever you .send. a post to a mailing list, It can recognize the mailing list and prevent duplicate messages. The one you just posted, and the one that the mailing list broadcasts to everyone, including you. With older email clients, you would have your post in the sent box and then your inbox would have the email from the Mailing List with your message _again_. So, you wind up with duplicate messages, your mail client storage gets bloated, after a 1,000+ posts, it adds up. I just filter my posts and the Mailing List messages into the same group, so I see everything in one place. Dan
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Dan Roganti via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 7:57 AM, Jonathan Gevaryahu via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On 3/22/2016 7:54 AM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
I think that's by design
No. There is an option you select during subscription to not see your own replies. However, Chris F. and Jeff B. do not have that flag set in their subscriptions, so I have no explanation for why they can't see their own posts.
It is a Gmail thing; if it detects a mailing list post (i.e. a redirected post from a list address which someone has just sent), it will delete it(?) rather than sending it to your mailbox ever. Or so I think.
oh yea, I've seen this many times on any mailing list, not just here. Gmail, I think others too these days, Thunderbird comes to mind, have a mechanism to avoid duplicate emails. So whenever you .send. a post to a mailing list, It can recognize the mailing list and prevent duplicate messages. The one you just posted, and the one that the mailing list broadcasts to everyone, including you.
With older email clients, you would have your post in the sent box and then your inbox would have the email from the Mailing List with your message _again_. So, you wind up with duplicate messages, your mail client storage gets bloated, after a 1,000+ posts, it adds up. I just filter my posts and the Mailing List messages into the same group, so I see everything in one place. Dan
Like I said, it's by design. If you want to see your emails then update your gmail settings. I recall seeing that setting someplace, but I have my set to default. -- @ BillDeg: Web: vintagecomputer.net Twitter: @billdeg <https://twitter.com/billdeg> Youtube: @billdeg <https://www.youtube.com/user/billdeg> Unauthorized Bio <http://www.vintagecomputer.net/readme.cfm>
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 8:26 AM, william degnan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Like I said, it's by design. If you want to see your emails then update your gmail settings. I recall seeing that setting someplace, but I have my set to default.
yes, but I've never seen a setting in their to reverse this. but you really wouldn't want to, because of the extra storage generated from duplicate emails. Just Filter your posts in the sentbox together with this mailing List to your VCFed group problem solved Dan
Bill, I initially tried to use my gmail account and gave up. Duane -----Original Message----- From: william degnan via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:36 PM To: vcf-midatlantic Cc: william degnan Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Posts not showing On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:18 PM, chrisjpf33--- via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Mar 21, 2016, at 10:08 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
So I have a gmail account since this list doesn't work with my msn account. I have no idea if that has anything to do with it.
Whenever I post something, my own post doesn't show up, but when someone replies, then I see my post.
Is anyone else experiencing this?
------------
Same for me.
Chris F.
I think that's by design b -- @ BillDeg: Web: vintagecomputer.net Twitter: @billdeg <https://twitter.com/billdeg> Youtube: @billdeg <https://www.youtube.com/user/billdeg> Unauthorized Bio <http://www.vintagecomputer.net/readme.cfm>
That's normal behavior for gmail and mailing lists. Your own posts will not get echoed. David
On Mar 22, 2016, at 11:13 AM, Duane via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Bill,
I initially tried to use my gmail account and gave up.
Duane
-----Original Message----- From: william degnan via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:36 PM To: vcf-midatlantic Cc: william degnan Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Posts not showing
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:18 PM, chrisjpf33--- via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Mar 21, 2016, at 10:08 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
So I have a gmail account since this list doesn't work with my msn account. I have no idea if that has anything to do with it.
Whenever I post something, my own post doesn't show up, but when someone replies, then I see my post.
Is anyone else experiencing this?
------------
Same for me.
Chris F.
I think that's by design b -- @ BillDeg: Web: vintagecomputer.net Twitter: @billdeg <https://twitter.com/billdeg> Youtube: @billdeg <https://www.youtube.com/user/billdeg> Unauthorized Bio <http://www.vintagecomputer.net/readme.cfm>
The problem with not getting your own posts is that you don't know if it was successful. So I used to end up posting the same message again because I didn't know if it got through or not. So now do I have to ask everyone if they got it? And thereby generate more e-mail? On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 11:15 AM, David Ryskalczyk via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
That's normal behavior for gmail and mailing lists. Your own posts will not get echoed.
David
On Mar 22, 2016, at 11:13 AM, Duane via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
Bill,
I initially tried to use my gmail account and gave up.
Duane
-----Original Message----- From: william degnan via vcf-midatlantic Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:36 PM To: vcf-midatlantic Cc: william degnan Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Posts not showing
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:18 PM, chrisjpf33--- via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Mar 21, 2016, at 10:08 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
So I have a gmail account since this list doesn't work with my msn account. I have no idea if that has anything to do with it.
Whenever I post something, my own post doesn't show up, but when someone replies, then I see my post.
Is anyone else experiencing this?
------------
Same for me.
Chris F.
I think that's by design b -- @ BillDeg: Web: vintagecomputer.net Twitter: @billdeg <https://twitter.com/billdeg> Youtube: @billdeg <https://www.youtube.com/user/billdeg> Unauthorized Bio <http://www.vintagecomputer.net/readme.cfm>
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
The problem with not getting your own posts is that you don't know if it was successful. So I used to end up posting the same message again because I didn't know if it got through or not. So now do I have to ask everyone if they got it? And thereby generate more e-mail?
if there is some worry about whether the post made it to the mailing list, you can go check the archive here to see if it's been recorded. If it's on there, you can be rest assured it has been distributed to all of the subscribers whether they have read it or not is a whole different issue :) http://lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org/pipermail/vcf-midatlantic/ Dan
Agreed. I use gmail and I have never missed a post. On Tuesday, March 22, 2016, Dan Roganti via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
The problem with not getting your own posts is that you don't know if it was successful. So I used to end up posting the same message again because I didn't know if it got through or not. So now do I have to ask everyone if they got it? And thereby generate more e-mail?
if there is some worry about whether the post made it to the mailing list, you can go check the archive here to see if it's been recorded. If it's on there, you can be rest assured it has been distributed to all of the subscribers whether they have read it or not is a whole different issue :) http://lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org/pipermail/vcf-midatlantic/ Dan
Btw: GMail app on the iphone shows my posts immediately. On Tuesday, March 22, 2016, Dean Notarnicola <dnotarnicola@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed. I use gmail and I have never missed a post.
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016, Dan Roganti via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org');>> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
The problem with not getting your own posts is that you don't know if it was successful. So I used to end up posting the same message again because I didn't know if it got through or not. So now do I have to ask everyone if they got it? And thereby generate more e-mail?
if there is some worry about whether the post made it to the mailing list, you can go check the archive here to see if it's been recorded. If it's on there, you can be rest assured it has been distributed to all of the subscribers whether they have read it or not is a whole different issue :) http://lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org/pipermail/vcf-midatlantic/ Dan
now do I have to ask everyone if they got it? And thereby generate more e-mail?
You could always check the archive. Messages usually appear there a few minutes after they're sent: http://lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org/pipermail/vcf-midatlantic/ Or you can try some of the Gmail tips that various people posted.
On Mar 21, 2016, at 22:08, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
So I have a gmail account since this list doesn't work with my msn account. I have no idea if that has anything to do with it.
Whenever I post something, my own post doesn't show up, but when someone replies, then I see my post.
Is anyone else experiencing this?
Yes, that's a gmail thing. It doesn't show emails from you.
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