[vcf-midatlantic] our new museum -- micro exhibit -- pick 28!
Evan Koblentz
evan at snarc.net
Fri Nov 6 11:57:48 EST 2015
Aaarrrgghhh -- Chris' message arrived here as an .eml attachment. WTF is
causing that and how do we fix it!!??
Anyway, Chris said this:
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Whats missing:
Atari 400/800.. Why? I can argue that this computer is the one that
pushed home users from game machines to computers. Atari designed these
machines for non-hobbyist home users by putting in cartridge ports and
having composite output. They sold these through SEARS. I think these
are engineering marvels for the time and are very under appreciated.
I know that the PET/Apple II came out earlier, but they were not
targeted to home users. Yes some people purchased them for the home.
They were not designed that way.
The Apple II was a $1200 just for the machine and over $2000 complete. I
would argue that is not targeting the Home Computer Market.
The Ti99/4 came out before the Atari but at $1,150 it was not targeted
at the home market.. The TI99/4a in 1981 was at $525.
VIC-20 First million sold, ushered in a lot of adoption
Next Workstation Ahead of it's time, HTTPd developed, Web Developed @ CERN
So I think these can be removed KIM-1, Should be part of a CPU
collection, which I think the museum should have.
IBM PC Jr., I don't see the significance
HP-85B, I don't see the significance
Our homebrewed "Dudley" PDP-8 clone. N
Apple Mac Portable, there were earlier laptops SWTPC 6800
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My comments:
>> Atari 400/800 ... They sold these through SEARS.
Good point.
>> I know that the PET/Apple II came out earlier, but they were not
targeted to home users. Yes some people purchased them for the home.
They were not designed that way.
So? Exhibit isn't just about home computers. Nothing will convince us to
remove the PET and Apple II. :)
>> The Apple II was a $1200 just for the machine and over $2000
complete. I would argue that is not targeting the Home Computer Market.
Schools, my friend!!! Apple II dominated.
>> Next Workstation Ahead of it's time
We don't have one.
>> So I think these can be removed KIM-1, Should be part of a CPU
collection, which I think the museum should have.
Eventually. There won't be room for that exhibit in stage one.
>> IBM PC Jr., I don't see the significance
Big Blue's entry into home computing.
>> HP-85B, I don't see the significance
HP was a big player in engineering micros, while the home users were
building Altairs and playing with BASIC .... I think we should teach
this. Too many history books teach people that homebrew and hobby
systems were the ONLY small computers back then.
Our homebrewed "Dudley" PDP-8 clone. N
As previously explained -- this is our best example, albeit technically
a mini, of a desktop-sized homemade system. Got to show at least one
such thing.
Apple Mac Portable, there were earlier laptops
Of course, I wrote a book about that. :) Maybe show something that was
more of a commodity, such as (any) run-of-the-mill mid/late-1980s laptop.
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