[vcf-midatlantic] oldest email address in the club

Dave McGuire mcguire at neurotica.com
Thu Sep 8 14:57:09 EDT 2016

On 09/08/2016 02:52 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
>>> Dave, I wasn't trying to start an argument.
>>   Oh yes you certainly were.
> That's ridiculous.

  Look at the list archives.

>>   Oh, but there is!  You started out by being condescending and
>> insulting to me, to which I will respond in kind because I'm not there
>> in person to do anything further.
> That's REALLY ridiculous.

  Look at the list archives again.

>>   I know you think that.  You're wrong.  I was there, I was involved.
>> You were neither there, nor were you involved.
> Dave, by that logic nobody can ever again write about ENIAC, World War
> I, the Roman Empire, or cavemen, because we weren't there.

  Once again: Wrong.  But if you happen to come across someone who WAS
there, you'd better be man enough to listen to them.

>>   Your bestowal of credit and accolades is misdirected.  I can teach you
>> all of this history if you want to learn it, but you have to be willing
>> to listen.
> You were an engineer at an early ISP. I get that and I respect it. It
> doesn't make you the leading authority on the early history of the
> Internet, and doesn't mean nobody else knows anything.

  Actually, as far as my (rather large) corner of it, that's exactly
what it means.  Yes, I was an engineer at an early ISP, if you'd like to
belittle my involvement to that point.  One of the FIRST ISPs, which
became one of the LARGEST.  I also attended NANOG meetings and
participated in the very first deployments of classless netblock
routing, and deployed a network that spanned the entire country.  Not
too many people were there.  And more importantly, YOU were not.

  I suggest you quit while you're ahead.  I am exercising great
restraint here.


Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

More information about the vcf-midatlantic mailing list