[vcf-midatlantic] assembler is tedious (was WooHoo!) (Jeffrey Jonas)
VAXman at tmesis.org
VAXman at tmesis.org
Mon Aug 7 13:41:00 EDT 2017
Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic writes:
>Adam Michlin had a lot to say. It's pretty much reasonable, plausible
>stuff he has to say. But I have a few nagging comments.
>I don't care for his use of a distinction between "real" programmers
>(his quotes), versus whatever-the-hell we do, we who post here, as less
>than real. I see his point, I have a BSEE myself. But I don't care for
>that ordering, or the choice of word. This is a discussion list about
>vintage computers; modern work is second, that's the order.
>And I don't care to hear, what amounts to "assembly languages - learn
>one, learn them all". And emulators, while free and convenient, aren't
>quite the same as actual hardware sitting on your desk, or in a rack.
>He's welcome to his preferences and priorities of course. But then - if
>he clearly favors one processor or architecture over another - why then
>claim any assembly language is like all others? It is...but it isn't.
>I get his points, there was no insult intended. But it makes me cringe.
>Like a Civil War re-enactor cringes, when visitors ask them about Web
>sites, cell-phone reception, keeping cool in the summer, etc.
>About "reality". I spent my time last week, as follows. Disassembling
>COSMAC 1802 code to restore source for an RCA monitor program. I looked
>at and discussed, oddball Z80 and 8080 architectures, for programming to
>SPI or I2C devices. I explained the repair of a 1979 S-100 bus backplane
>and just scanned its manual last night.
>Please don't tell me, what I'm doing, isn't "real". That knowledge of
>and experience with architectural features are arbitrary details,
>readily learned, readily emulated. And don't do so, when some of these
>differences matter to YOU. No insult to you, just consider the larger
>contexts, as I've suggested.
>keepin' it real retrotechnology.com
>-- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA
Good grief, please don't tell me there's another New Jersey; one's bad enough!.
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