[vcf-midatlantic] PAL Commodore 1702 monitor
billdegnan at gmail.com
Mon Jun 11 08:13:41 EDT 2018
I agree, you'll need a complete system hardware inventory of a working
"modern enhanced Euro demo scene system" to help avoid headaches. That is,
if these demos don't already give you a headache.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 8:10 AM Thomas Fuchs via vcf-midatlantic <
vcf-midatlantic at lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
> There’s a bunch of demos that don’t work on emulators or even on real
> hardware when there’s a fast loader cartridge present.
> Among other obscure tricks, they often use the processor in the external
> disk drive (which is a 6502!) as a coprocessor.
> A good one to try is the “We Are” demo; see
> If that one works and shows up correctly you should be good. :)
> Thomas F.
> > On Jun 10, 2018, at 10:33 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <
> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic <
> > vcf-midatlantic at lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
> >> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 8:11 PM Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <
> >> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote:
> >>> So I was unable to find anyone with a PAL C64 or even a PAL VIC-II, so
> >>> ordered one from Egypt on eBay because that was the only one that I
> >>> available. I plan on using this at HOPE for VCF's exhibit. It cost a
> >> pretty
> >>> penny to buy ($130) and to ship ($70), but at least I have my PAL C64
> >> that
> >>> I have always wanted.
> >>> I know many have told me that I can hook up my PAL C64 to any modern
> >>> monitor, but I was hoping to locate a PAL C64 monitor to be as vintage
> >>> possible.
> >>> Does anyone have one?
> >> Jeff,
> >> No, I do not. Just curious, what is the value in having a PAL C64, is
> >> there a game or some program that is PAL only? I converted both my PAL
> > Bill, yes there are specific demos that I want to run that are PAL
> > All the best demos are from Europe and are in PAL format. Like this one:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEZGt7aaIG4> The latest demos push the
> > to it's limits with incredible sound and graphics that make it look like
> > is a 16 bit machine. Sure I can run it in an emulator, but I want to run
> > on a real machine.
> > The theme of HOPE for VCF is to show off vintage computers pushed to the
> > max with hardware and software.
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