[vcf-midatlantic] Looking for a Kalok IDE drive

Andrew Diller dillera at gmail.com
Thu Jan 10 13:20:45 EST 2019


Right - but it sounds like you want the sound of the original drive. I was
offering you the chance to record the sound you want, coming from the
Miniscribe.



On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:51 AM Jason Perkins <perkins.jason at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I don't think I can make it to this workshop :(
>
> I'm also looking for a 16 bit ATA drive, not SCSI.
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 8:35 AM Andrew Diller <dillera at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The 20Meg miniscribes on the early MacSE's had the sound you describe.
>> They used a big stepper motor and not a voice coil to move the heads. That
>> may be the sound you are trying to capture.
>>
>> I think i have a few of them around, i'll see if any spin up in an
>> external scsi enclosure.
>>
>> If they do i'll bring it Sat.
>>
>> -andy
>>
>> > On Jan 10, 2019, at 7:43 AM, Jason Perkins via vcf-midatlantic <
>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm using Dr. Schaeffer's IDEFile:
>> > http://john.ccac.rwth-aachen.de:8000/patrick/idefile.htm
>> >
>> > So I would need a 16 bit ATA drive. As far as sound, I was looking for
>> > something with an audible seek, but quiet spindle. The Lisa's original
>> > Widget drive has a rather unique sound, and I want to capture some of
>> that
>> > uniqueness with the IDEfile.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ADMHAdSNpM
>> >
>> > In one of my IDEFiles I have a ~200 mb Quantum drive. It makes some nice
>> > unique sounds, but is developing stiction issues.
>> >
>> > -J
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 11:22 AM Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic <
>> > vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Why??? I’m looking for something to use with an IDE adapter on my
>> Lisa,
>> >> and [I] want it to sound interesting."
>> >>
>> >> It's a little amusing, to ask for hard drives based on acoustics. I'm
>> an
>> >> old person from a different time; I guess it's a thing now. (Yes, I
>> know
>> >> there's videos of stacks of drives playing tunes, thank you.) When
>> drive
>> >> stepping was noisier, it was a diagnostic, more convenient than a
>> >> blinking "drive activity" LED.
>> >>
>> >> I'm guessing, the Lisa may not accept any ancient IDE hard-drive. I
>> know
>> >> that some really old IDE hard drives have "the wrong" IDE interface (8
>> >> bit data and not standard 16 bit data). Is there a list of IDE hard
>> >> drive brand/models the Lisa could reasonably use?
>> >>
>> >> So - is there really a demand for "acoustic" IDE hard drives? Also,
>> with
>> >> a sound like a winding up jet engine as they start up? I can dig up
>> some
>> >> of these. No warranties.
>> >>
>> >> Herb
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA
>> >> http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jason Perkins
>> > 313 355 0085
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jason Perkins
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