[vcf-midatlantic] Xerox Wildflowers - Dandelions and Daybreaks

[Dean Notarnicola]

Yes, exactly. They were focused on advanced document processing systems and
couldn’t even hold onto that market, even with such advanced tech.

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 4:46 PM Adam Michlin <amichlin at swerlin.com> wrote:

> My father, who was working at Exxon at the time, got special permission
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> through his boss to visit PARC some time, he thinks, between 78-82...
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> not entirely sure. He is pretty certain it was before Jobs visited, but
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> he can't be sure. Apparently he had to all but sign his first born away
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> (*phew*) that he wouldn't leak any secrets.
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> What he is crystal clear on is that he was shown the Alto and the Dorado
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> and not the Star and that Xerox had no commericial products of the GUI
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> computer ilk. He would later purchase a Star as part of responsibilities
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> at Exxon, probably around 1983.
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> As to how Xerox could have dropped the ball.. it is more like how could
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> they not have dropped the ball. They were a *copier* company and they
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> were making money hand over fist selling copiers. This new fangled
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> computer business? Meh. They also lost out on the personal laser printer
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> and Ethernet (double doh!).
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> On 8/17/2020 3:07 PM, Dean Notarnicola via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
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> > Turns out it was Altos. The Star was the commercialized successor to the
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> > Alto.
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> > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 2:59 PM Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <
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> > vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
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> >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:08 AM Andrew Diller <dillera at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> >>
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> >>> I know DavidG has done some amazing work (along with other members) on
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> >>> VCF's 8010 (*Dandelion)*... And strangely enough the same day
> (yesterday)
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> >>> someone on the SGI Discord I frequent posted this amazing video, which
> I
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> >>> thought I'd share to interested people here:
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> >>>
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> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10Dlr5rY9SI
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> >>>
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> >>> Of a Daybreak (*Xerox 6085)* booting up into ViewPoint 2.0 and using
> the
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> >>> apps. VCF also has a Daybreak which would be great to get fully
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> >> functional
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> >>> again as well.
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> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox_Daybreak
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> >>>
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> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox_Star
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> >>> I'm not sure of the dates, but do people know if the Xerox Star would
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> >> have
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> >>> been the system that Jobs and the Apple team viewed at Xerox back when
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> >> they
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> >>> had their infamous visits? Or were those Altos?
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> >>>
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> >> I wonder if the book "Dealers of Lightning" has any details about this.
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> >>>
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> >>> -andy
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