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- [vcf-midatlantic] Hayes 300bps SmartModem for museum exhbit?
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Hayes 300bps SmartModem for museum exhbit?
Dean Notarnicola
- [vcf-midatlantic] Hayes 300bps SmartModem for museum exhbit?
Tony Bogan
- [vcf-midatlantic] List of 2020 Exhibits
Tony Bogan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Hayes 300bps SmartModem for museum exhbit?
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Hayes 300bps SmartModem for museum exhbit?
Douglas Crawford
- [vcf-midatlantic] Hayes 300bps SmartModem for museum exhbit?
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Telebit, was Re: Hayes 300bps SmartModem for museum exhbit?
Dave McGuire
- [vcf-midatlantic] Hayes 300bps SmartModem for museum exhbit?
Douglas Crawford
- [vcf-midatlantic] Friday Class ideas - VCF East 2020
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] Friday Class ideas - VCF East 2020
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Hayes 300bps SmartModem for museum exhbit?
Herb Johnson
- [vcf-midatlantic] Museum Report 2020-02-01
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] List of 2020 Exhibits
Tony Bogan
- [vcf-midatlantic] List of 2020 Exhibits
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Museum Report 2020-02-02
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] Museum Report 2020-02-02
Martin Flynn
- [vcf-midatlantic] List of 2020 Exhibits
Tony Bogan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Museum Report 2020-02-02
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Museum Report 2020-02-02
Tony Bogan
- [vcf-midatlantic] List of 2020 Exhibits
Bob Flanders
- [vcf-midatlantic] List of 2020 Exhibits
Tony Bogan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Museum Report 2020-02-02
Sentrytv
- 1980's bedroom setup
Sentrytv
- 1980's bedroom setup/exhibit updates
Tony Bogan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Friday Class ideas - VCF East 2020
Douglas Crawford
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
Ethan O'Toole
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
Martin Flynn
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
corey cohen
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
Sentrytv
- [vcf-midatlantic] Friday Class ideas - VCF East 2020
Eric Rangell
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
Jameel Akari
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
Tony Bogan
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
Neil Cherry
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
Ethan O'Toole
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
corey cohen
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
corey cohen
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
Ethan O'Toole
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
corey cohen
- 1980's bedroom setup
Jeff G
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
Chris Fala
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
Chris Fala
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
corey cohen
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
jsalzman at gmail.com
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
jsalzman at gmail.com
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
Martin Flynn
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
Chris Fala
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
Chris Fala
- 1980's bedroom setup
Sentrytv
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
Sentrytv
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
jsalzman at gmail.com
- [vcf-midatlantic] Rack lift
Mike Loewen
- [vcf-midatlantic] Rack lift
Martin Flynn
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
Richard Cini
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
Dean Notarnicola
- [vcf-midatlantic] 1980's bedroom setup
Ethan Dicks
- [vcf-midatlantic] Rack lift
Kyle Owen
- [vcf-midatlantic] Rack lift
Mike Loewen
- Apple diskII drive head needed
Sentrytv
- [vcf-midatlantic] Rack lift
Alexander Jacocks
- [vcf-midatlantic] Announcing the AppleII Classroom *ALL THREE DAYS* at VCF East 2020
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Announcing the AppleII Classroom *ALL THREE DAYS* at VCF East 2020
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Instagram Challenge
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Announcing the AppleII Classroom *ALL THREE DAYS* at VCF East 2020
Dean Notarnicola
- [vcf-midatlantic] Rack lift
malcolm at avitech.com.au
- [vcf-midatlantic] Announcing the AppleII Classroom *ALL THREE DAYS* at VCF East 2020
jsalzman at gmail.com
- [vcf-midatlantic] Announcing the AppleII Classroom *ALL THREE DAYS* at VCF East 2020
Chris Fala
- [vcf-midatlantic] Announcing the AppleII Classroom *ALL THREE DAYS* at VCF East 2020
Ben Greenfield
- [vcf-midatlantic] Announcing the AppleII Classroom *ALL THREE DAYS* at VCF East 2020
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Announcing the AppleII Classroom *ALL THREE DAYS* at VCF East 2020
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Announcing the AppleII Classroom *ALL THREE DAYS* at VCF East 2020
Dean Notarnicola
- [vcf-midatlantic] Rack lift
W2HX
- [vcf-midatlantic] Announcing the AppleII Classroom *ALL THREE DAYS* at VCF East 2020
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] help needed near Downngton, PA to copy files from Apple II Prodos disk
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Subject: Re: 1980's bedroom setup
Jeffrey Jonas
- [vcf-midatlantic] Subject: Re: 1980's bedroom setup
Ethan Dicks
- [vcf-midatlantic] Subject: Re: 1980's bedroom setup
Jameel Akari
- [vcf-midatlantic] Announcing the AppleII Classroom *ALL THREE DAYS* at VCF East 2020
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Announcing the AppleII Classroom *ALL THREE DAYS* at VCF East 2020
Ethan O'Toole
- [vcf-midatlantic] Announcing the AppleII Classroom *ALL THREE DAYS* at VCF East 2020
Dean Notarnicola
- [vcf-midatlantic] Announcing the AppleII Classroom *ALL THREE DAYS* at VCF East 2020
Ethan O'Toole
- [vcf-midatlantic] Announcing the AppleII Classroom *ALL THREE DAYS* at VCF East 2020
Neil Cherry
- [vcf-midatlantic] Announcing the AppleII Classroom *ALL THREE DAYS* at VCF East 2020
Dean Notarnicola
- [vcf-midatlantic] help needed near Downngton, PA to copy files from Apple II Prodos disk
Jonathan Gevaryahu
- [vcf-midatlantic] help needed near Downngton, PA to copy files from Apple II Prodos disk
Douglas Crawford
- [vcf-midatlantic] help needed near Downngton, PA to copy files from Apple II Prodos disk
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Online ticket sales for VCFe 2020 have begun!
Dean Notarnicola
- [vcf-midatlantic] ISA BIOS extension board?
Richard Cini
- [vcf-midatlantic] ISA BIOS extension board?
Dean Notarnicola
- [vcf-midatlantic] Vendors at VCF East 2020
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] Online ticket sales for VCFe 2020 have begun!
jsalzman at gmail.com
- [vcf-midatlantic] Online ticket sales for VCFe 2020 have begun!
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] Online ticket sales for VCFe 2020 have begun!
Tony Bogan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Online ticket sales for VCFe 2020 have begun!
jsalzman at gmail.com
- [vcf-midatlantic] Online ticket sales for VCFe 2020 have begun!
Tony Bogan
- [vcf-midatlantic] ISA BIOS extension board?
Jason Perkins
- [vcf-midatlantic] ISA BIOS extension board?
Richard Cini
- [vcf-midatlantic] ISA BIOS extension board?
David Gesswein
- [vcf-midatlantic] ISA BIOS extension board?
Richard Cini
- [vcf-midatlantic] Looking Next Weekend 2/15-2/16 VCF Workshop in Hunt Valley MD
rar
- [vcf-midatlantic] Looking Next Weekend 2/15-2/16 VCF Workshop in Hunt Valley MD
Jason Perkins
- [vcf-midatlantic] ISA BIOS extension board?
Richard Cini
- [vcf-midatlantic] Last workshop report
David Gesswein
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
David Gesswein
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Adam Michlin
- vcf-midatlantic Digest, Vol 21, Issue 9
Burning Image
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Dave McGuire
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Ram testing / surface mount soldering at SS?
Jason Perkins
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Dave McGuire
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Dave McGuire
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Dave McGuire
- Macworld EXPO NY 2000
Peter Fletcher
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Neil Cherry
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Mike Loewen
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Neil Cherry
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
David Riley
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
David Riley
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Christian Liendo
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Neil Cherry
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Dave McGuire
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Neil Cherry
- [vcf-midatlantic] VCF UNIVAC wins Most Absolute Unit in /r/retrobattlestations
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] VCF UNIVAC wins Most Absolute Unit in /r/retrobattlestations
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] VCF UNIVAC wins Most Absolute Unit in /r/retrobattlestations
Tony Bogan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Museum Report 2020-02-08 February 8, 2020
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] Museum Report 2020-02-09 February 9, 2020
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] Last workshop report
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] Online ticket sales for VCFe 2020 have begun!
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] Vic-20 Switch
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] Vic-20 Switch
Chris Fala
- [vcf-midatlantic] Vic-20 Switch
Sentrytv
- [vcf-midatlantic] Vic-20 Switch
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Vic-20 Switch
Chris Fala
- [vcf-midatlantic] Vic-20 Switch
jsalzman at gmail.com
- [vcf-midatlantic] Vic-20 Switch
Sentrytv
- [vcf-midatlantic] Vic-20 Switch
Sentrytv
- [vcf-midatlantic] Blinken lights for the Pidp8 ?
Neil Cherry
- [vcf-midatlantic] OT: Seeking information on a 2006 Dell XPS 700 in Jet Black
Bob Shuster
- [vcf-midatlantic] Blinken lights for the Pidp8 ?
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Blinken lights for the Pidp8 ?
Neil Cherry
- [vcf-midatlantic] Vic-20 Switch
corey cohen
- [vcf-midatlantic] Vic-20 Switch
Chris Fala
- [vcf-midatlantic] Vic-20 Switch
Richard Cini
- [vcf-midatlantic] Vic-20 Switch
Chris Fala
- [vcf-midatlantic] Fortran Board Game
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Fortran Board Game
Douglas Crawford
- [vcf-midatlantic] Fortran Board Game
Douglas Crawford
- [vcf-midatlantic] Fortran Board Game
Dave McGuire
- [vcf-midatlantic] Fortran Board Game
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Fortran Board Game
Chris Fala
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Jeffrey Jonas
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Ben Greenfield
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
David Riley
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Ethan Dicks
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Ethan Dicks
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Jameel Akari
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Dean Notarnicola
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
connork at connorsdomain.com
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Dave McGuire
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
David Riley
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Ethan Dicks
- [vcf-midatlantic] Fortran Board Game
Herb Johnson
- Bit slice (was: Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt)
Brian L. Stuart
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Dave McGuire
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Dave McGuire
- [vcf-midatlantic] Oh noes, wikipedia might be wrong :-0
Jeffrey Jonas
- [vcf-midatlantic] Oh noes, wikipedia might be wrong :-0
Dave McGuire
- [vcf-midatlantic] Oh noes, wikipedia might be wrong :-0
Dave Wade
- [vcf-midatlantic] Fortran Board Game
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] CRT Repair (OT Modern $$)
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Tony Bogan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Neil Cherry
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Tony Bogan
- [vcf-midatlantic] The Print Shop for the C64 - known working copy?
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
David Riley
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
David Riley
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Neil Cherry
- [vcf-midatlantic] Scans of David Ahl's DEC EDU newsletter
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] Scans of David Ahl's DEC EDU newsletter
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Scans of David Ahl's DEC EDU newsletter
Tony Bogan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Jameel Akari
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Tony Bogan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Repair Workshops February 2020
jsalzman at gmail.com
- [vcf-midatlantic] Working on a historical microprocessor exhibt
Jameel Akari
- [vcf-midatlantic] Repair Workshops February 2020
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Scans of David Ahl's DEC EDU newsletter
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] Repair Workshops February 2020
jsalzman at gmail.com
- [vcf-midatlantic] Repair Workshops February 2020
thedestructionchannel2000
- [vcf-midatlantic] Ram testing / surface mount soldering at SS?
David Gesswein
- [vcf-midatlantic] Ram testing / surface mount soldering at SS?
Ethan O'Toole
- [vcf-midatlantic] Ram testing / surface mount soldering at SS?
Jason Perkins
- [vcf-midatlantic] Ram testing / surface mount soldering at SS?
Alexander Jacocks
- Happy 74th Birthday ENIAC
Brian L. Stuart
- [vcf-midatlantic] Hayes 300bps SmartModem for museum exhbit?
m simons
- [vcf-midatlantic] Hayes 300bps SmartModem for museum exhbit?
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Retro technology at CDL
Martin Flynn
- [vcf-midatlantic] Retro technology at CDL
Neil Cherry
- [vcf-midatlantic] Retro technology at CDL
Martin Flynn
- [vcf-midatlantic] Retro technology at CDL
VAXman at tmesis.org
- [vcf-midatlantic] Retro technology at CDL
Neil Cherry
- [vcf-midatlantic] Ram testing / surface mount soldering at SS?
Henry S. Courbis
- [vcf-midatlantic] Your critical thinking skills and opinion needed: Stickers!
Michael Brutman
- [vcf-midatlantic] Ram testing / surface mount soldering at SS?
Alexander Jacocks
- [vcf-midatlantic] Ram testing / surface mount soldering at SS?
Henry S. Courbis
- [vcf-midatlantic] Repair Workshops March 2020
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] Your critical thinking skills and opinion needed: Stickers!
Michael Brutman
- [vcf-midatlantic] Ram testing / surface mount soldering at SS?
Chris Fala
- [vcf-midatlantic] Bert Sutherland and Larry Tesler died this week
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] Paul Vixie speaking at NYC BSD User Group
Christian Liendo
- [vcf-midatlantic] [Galactic] Re: Your critical thinking skills and opinion needed: Stickers!
Michael Brutman
- [vcf-midatlantic] [Galactic] Re: Your critical thinking skills and opinion needed: Stickers!
Dean Notarnicola
- [vcf-midatlantic] [Galactic] Re: Your critical thinking skills and opinion needed: Stickers!
Michael Brutman
- [vcf-midatlantic] [Galactic] Re: Your critical thinking skills and opinion needed: Stickers!
Michael Brutman
- [vcf-midatlantic] System Source February Repair workshop
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] System Source February Repair workshop
Ethan O'Toole
- [vcf-midatlantic] System Source February Repair workshop
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] System Source February Repair workshop
Ethan O'Toole
- [vcf-midatlantic] System Source February Repair workshop
Alexander Pierson
- [vcf-midatlantic] System Source February Repair workshop
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] System Source February Repair workshop
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] System Source February Repair workshop
Andrew Diller
- [vcf-midatlantic] [Galactic] Re: Your critical thinking skills and opinion needed: Stickers!
Michael Brutman
- [vcf-midatlantic] CPU exhibit, reborn
Jeffrey Jonas
- [vcf-midatlantic] CPU exhibit, reborn
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Hayes 300bps SmartModem for museum exhbit?
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Repair workshop in Albany?
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] CPU exhibit, reborn
David Riley
- [vcf-midatlantic] Repair workshop in Albany?
Jameel Akari
- [vcf-midatlantic] Repair workshop in Albany?
jsalzman at gmail.com
- [vcf-midatlantic] Impromptu Altair 8800 Demo/workshop Tomorrow 10-1 @kennett classic
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Parasitic Engineering Altair Clock Fix Kit...
William Sudbrink
- [vcf-midatlantic] CPU exhibit, reborn
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] Kickstarter: Injection Molded Clear Case for Apple IIe and IIgs
Adam Michlin
- Some personal updates
Evan Koblentz
- [vcf-midatlantic] WE WANT YOU! To be a volunteer at VCF EAST 2020!
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] Cisco 2100 series WLAN controller (and rack kit) up for grabs
Martin Flynn
- [vcf-midatlantic] Museum update
Adam Michlin
- [vcf-midatlantic] VCF East 2020 Update
Dean Notarnicola
- Asus PIII CUSC motherboard drivers needed
Sentrytv
- [vcf-midatlantic] ANNOUNCE: VCF East 2020 Kit, R6501Q Single Board Computer
systems_glitch
- [vcf-midatlantic] VCF East 2020 Update
laurakid
- [vcf-midatlantic] WE WANT YOU! To be a volunteer at VCF EAST 2020!
laurakid
- [vcf-midatlantic] ANNOUNCE: VCF East 2020 Kit, R6501Q Single Board Computer
Alexander Jacocks
- [vcf-midatlantic] Data Recovery from Jaz Cartridge
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] ANNOUNCE: VCF East 2020 Kit, R6501Q Single Board Computer
Bob Flanders
- [vcf-midatlantic] [Galactic] Re: Your critical thinking skills and opinion needed: Stickers!
Michael Brutman
- [vcf-midatlantic] [Galactic] Re: Your critical thinking skills and opinion needed: Stickers!
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] Data Recovery from Jaz Cartridge
Jonathan Gevaryahu
- [vcf-midatlantic] Hayes 300bps SmartModem for museum exhbit?
Douglas Crawford
- [vcf-midatlantic] suggested viewing
Jeffrey Jonas
- [vcf-midatlantic] suggested viewing
Jeff G
- [vcf-midatlantic] cincinatti teletype (telex model 32)
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] suggested viewing
Jason Perkins
- [vcf-midatlantic] suggested viewing
Alexander Pierson
- [vcf-midatlantic] suggested viewing
Chris Fala
- [vcf-midatlantic] Honeywell h-316 power supply
Mike Loewen
- [vcf-midatlantic] Honeywell h-316 power supply
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] MagicCap & General Magic
Richard Cini
- [vcf-midatlantic] MagicCap & General Magic
Tony Bogan
- [vcf-midatlantic] suggested viewing
Ethan O'Toole
- [vcf-midatlantic] MagicCap & General Magic
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] suggested viewing
Jason Perkins
- [vcf-midatlantic] any source for Pocket Chip (other than ebay)
Jeffrey Jonas
- [vcf-midatlantic] any source for Pocket Chip (other than ebay)
Blake Patterson
- [vcf-midatlantic] any source for Pocket Chip (other than ebay)
Bill Degnan
- [vcf-midatlantic] Data Recovery from Jaz Cartridge
Jonathan Sturges
- [vcf-midatlantic] GEOS 128 processor and SD card solution
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] Museum Report 2020-02-29
Jeffrey Brace
- [vcf-midatlantic] Repair Workshop March 7 & 8 - Signup
Jeffrey Brace
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