[vcf-midatlantic] Greenbar printout DONE! - need ISA ethernet card

Jameel Akari jakari at bithose.com
Sun Feb 28 21:41:15 UTC 2021


TIL that mTCP exists, and I’m quite excited to try it out soon!

I had older DOS+Win3.11 lab machines I had to run FTP Software’s TCPonnet stack for and I don’t remember it being pleasant or performant. I’d set it up once on a PC at home like 15 years ago and was like “nope.”

mTCP looks like just the thing. 

-- 
Jameel Akari 

> On Feb 28, 2021, at 4:23 PM, Michael Brutman via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
> 
> All you need is a card with a packet driver.  A card from the list you have
> there should be readily available.  You can also use a packet driver "shim"
> on top of ODI drivers for later cards.
> 
> Contact me directly if you have problems, including weird crashes or
> performance problems.  It is almost always hardware or a noisy network, but
> I still like to root cause the problems and help fix them.  mTCP has a
> fairly comprehensive trace and debugging mechanism built into it.
> 
> (The most recent tricky problem was somebody using a packet driver shim on
> top of ODI drivers; the ODI layer did not have enough available buffers so
> at small MTU settings and high speeds it was dropping packets, which was
> horrible for performance.  Increasing the buffers at the ODI layer made the
> machine run at full speed, which was over 850KB/sec sending and receiving
> on a 386-40.)
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 10:25 AM Dean Notarnicola via vcf-midatlantic <
>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Any card with a packet driver should work. Back in the day, we got many
>> cheap ne2000 clones to work with Microsoft TCP/IP 1.0a.
>> 
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 1:21 PM Martin Flynn via vcf-midatlantic <
>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Will toss it into the truck for the next trip south just in case - will
>>> leave on top the server rack in CDL for pickup.
>>> 
>>> martin
>>> 
>>> On 2/28/2021 1:17 PM, Andrew Diller wrote:
>>>> Good question. MikeB would know, I can only test it :)
>>>> 
>>>> I have not used mTCP before but hope to get something on the network,
>>> because getting the data for print-outs is the other half of the
>> problem...
>>>> 
>>>> -andy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Martin Flynn via vcf-midatlantic <
>>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andy,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3COM ETHERLINK III 3C509B-TP work?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Martin
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/28/2021 1:06 PM, Andrew Diller via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
>>>>>> OK that is useful. I am going to try to get some PC (one of the
>> compaq
>>> luggables) setup at VCF w/ networking (mTCP) and wordPerfect. Then tested
>>> to print to a VCF decwriter and some parallel printer (daisy wheel).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Speaking of such, I will request that if any members have a
>> compatible
>>> card for mTCP:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Novell NE1000, NE2000 and clones
>>>>>> 3Com 3C503
>>>>>> WD/SMC 8003 series
>>>>>> Intel EtherExpress 8/16
>>>>>> Davicom DM9008F
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Would they consider donating an extra to VCF for this effort? I'm not
>>> aware of any cards at VCF for this. If you coming to VCF repair day
>> please
>>> consider bringing it!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -andy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:43 PM, Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic <
>>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> FYI - Here is a post I made with a quick how-to print ascii files
>> the
>>>>>>> DecWriter II, back in 2014
>>>>>>> https://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=557
>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 12:38 PM Dean Notarnicola via
>> vcf-midatlantic
>>> <
>>>>>>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Eak!!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 12:32 PM Jeff Salzman via vcf-midatlantic <
>>>>>>>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> They say loud irritating noises keep rodents away... so there's
>>> that. :)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 9:07 AM Andrew Diller via vcf-midatlantic
>> <
>>>>>>>>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also remind me to never get into a printer competition with Mike
>>>>>>>> Loewen,
>>>>>>>>>> those are some monster printers I saw on that page (for having at
>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> house)...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 



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