[vcf-midatlantic] Sperry Univac Core - Moving off topic... perhaps the last word on this.

Douglas Crawford touchetek at gmail.com
Wed Jul 14 20:03:55 UTC 2021

Very cool! Thanks!

On 7/14/2021 11:51 AM, Bob Flanders via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
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> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 12:49 AM Jeffrey Brace <jeffrey at vcfed.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 6:37 PM Bob Flanders via vcf-midatlantic <
>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2021-07-12 at 6.35.12 PM.png]
>> Bob, images are eaten by Mailman. So I recommend sending a link to the
>> image on this mailing list.
>>> This is the image I tried to send...
>>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 5:54 PM Bob Flanders <bob.flanders at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Doug,
>>>> I saw "AN/UYK-20". In the early '70s, I was a night-shift operator for
>>> an
>>>> AN/UYK-7. I also did some system testing on the thing.
>>>> Very cool and hard to come by information. This is similar to the
>>> console
>>>> for the Mk 81 torp FCS.
>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 4:54 PM Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <
>>>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/12/2021 12:22 PM, Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
>>>>>>> Douglas Crawford Sat Jul 10 02:49:34 UTC 2021
>>>>>>> So, right. Here's the whole post mortem on this.
>>>>>>> That's a recap of the entire successful conversation.
>>>>>>> Links to the board pics, and the UNIVAC manuals
>>>>>>> and such are in the conversation.
>>>>>>> Hence, "I'm good".
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> It seems polite to respond to your detailed response to my "where's
>>> the
>>>>>> core" message.
>>>>>> Your responses were informative, thank you. As you responded, your
>>> Web
>>>>>> pages on WordPress are for other purposes than for showing items for
>>>>>> further discussion or to solicit inquiries. Your response explains
>>>>>> itself and needs no elaborations on my part.
>>>>> Thanks Herb.  I feel I said one thing in haste and in retrospect I
>>> think
>>>>> it comes across badly- that the AN-UYK-20 is not interest.
>>>>> Not my complete thought. I was thinking not interesting enough -to me-.
>>>>> Most (if not all) vintage computers are interesting to someone and
>>>>> have aspects, which brought to light, probably would enlighten
>>> interest in
>>>>> many.  Like many in the hobby I got spread way to thin for the amount
>>> of
>>>>> time I could put into the many great pieces I acquired in the last 10
>>>>> years
>>>>> so I made a call to not go deep into the AN-UYK_20 lineage of military
>>>>> computers.
>>>>> I would love to know more about our own Univac in the museum and can't
>>>>> even
>>>>> do that.  I hope that my plans with the core board doesn't disappoint
>>> to
>>>>> many
>>>>> too much.  I recently, as posted on here, got a few pieces of a MODCOMP
>>>>> Classic, and since that is a real oddity from my point of view, I might
>>>>> find
>>>>> time to go into emulation with the fine example of the front panel I
>>> now
>>>>> have.
>>>>>> Otherwise: you posted in this list to get some info: you got some
>>> info
>>>>>> and assistance: job done. But at some point you literally posted "Any
>>>>>> recommendations on where else to look?" and that is what I responded
>>>>> to.
>>>>>> If I posted after your request was satisfied, that was simply a
>>>>>> circumstance. My post also explained itself and needs no elaboration.
>>>>> Thank you it was a reasonable suggestion, of course! You expanded on my
>>>>> request "where to look" with "what else I can do to get answers".
>>>>> No problem.  Duane's response remained on the "where to look" aspect
>>> which
>>>>> when, for instance, he showed me the availability of the parts on a
>>>>> military
>>>>> web site, I learned - DUH!- look for military computer parts at the
>>>>> military
>>>>> suppliers!  They just don't come up on web searches so I didn't find
>>> them.
>>>>>> You and I, simply put content on the Web in different ways for
>>>>> different
>>>>>> purposes.  I'll be thoughtful about your use, you suggested you'll be
>>>>>> thoughtful about my suggested use. Those are considerations outside
>>> the
>>>>>> immediate topic which you have already concluded.
>>>>>> Doug, you asked me if I liked your site, if I would read a few of
>>> your
>>>>>> pages on WordPress. Well, I did. They are good presentations about
>>> how
>>>>>> you've designed various microprocessor-based projects, small and
>>> large.
>>>>>> There's a general display of your vintage collection. These are all
>>>>>> well-crafted pages with visual and textual content. WordPress sites
>>>>> have
>>>>>> a commonality to them that makes them hard for me to compare to other
>>>>>> Web sites.
>>>>>> The "adventures in ROV" page, is a pretty detailed presentation of
>>> the
>>>>>> methodology of students and mentors to create a toy-class small ROV
>>>>> from
>>>>>> Arduino technology and various toy-class parts. I only say "toy"
>>>>> because
>>>>>> you've also done commercial class development work. As an engineer
>>>>>> myself, I'm informed by your presentations of design process.
>>>>>> Doug, you are welcome to wander around my Web domain
>>>>>> retrotechnology.com, for any information and considerations of use
>>> or
>>>>>> result you can glean from them.
>>>>> Oh so coy, Herb!  :-) Your site is world class and I have been there
>>> for
>>>>> many of the subjects you concentrate on, and when you concentrate, you
>>>>> research to the nth degree and that's why it serves as the reference
>>> for
>>>>> many
>>>>> for CP/M, S-100, 1802, to name a few.
>>>>> I think your site and Bill Deg get the kind of responses because the
>>> tone
>>>>> of the sites are research and documentation of artifacts in a way that
>>>>> draws
>>>>> out responses that contribute along those lines.  Which is great.
>>>>> I put some of these pages up when I was job hunting and trying to show
>>> a
>>>>> certain
>>>>> high level of "functioning".  It didn't really help that job effort,
>>> but
>>>>> I'm glad I put them up just the same, because its easy to forget a lot
>>>>> of the
>>>>> juicy details of what you had to overcome along the way.
>>>>> It all adds up when you lay them out end to end that's cool to look
>>> back
>>>>> on.
>>>>> You are correct the ROV was toy class.  At the end of the project, I
>>>>> applied
>>>>> for an opening at hired at VideoRAY, a ROV company right in my own
>>> town,
>>>>> but nope. No deal.
>>>>> The HR person hinted they could not afford me, and alas, no offer was
>>>>> given.
>>>>> That was the last place I applied, and probably the last I will
>>> attempt.
>>>>> Thanks for looking the pages over & the kind words.
>>>>>> There's an open question from Doug, about whether Web search "finds"
>>>>> the
>>>>>> discussions here in this email list. I don't know, I search a lot and
>>>>>> don't recall "finds" from this list. But technical content in this
>>>>>> somewhat-private email list is limited. So I speculate there aren't
>>>>>> often enough keyboards to trigger a high-value "search hit". It's
>>> also
>>>>>> possible, that the hosting site "tells" search engines not to search
>>>>> the
>>>>>> email archives. Those are administrative matters I have no knowledge
>>>>>> about. But as Doug suggests: the email list is for specific purposes,
>>>>> if
>>>>>> it doesn't do other things there are other venues which do.
>>>>> Right. I suspect this mailman system doesn't get cataloged but I have
>>>>> not tried to prove that.
>>>>> I've not seen web searches refer to these emails. But I have seen hits
>>>>> from the VCF Forum.
>>>>> So its probably wisest to post questions there instead and leave this
>>>>> site more to the machinations of the VCF club.
>>>>> Agree?
>>>>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>>>> Herb Johnson

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