[vcf-midatlantic] VCF Bumper to videos

[Douglas Crawford]

OK, but you justified this as being based on something
of historical significance, then reverse it into
something that isn't even musical.
That's a bad idea.

Yes others use original music. But it is MUSICAL.
A reverse of a on old melody is probably not even musical.
I recommend no music for this bumper.
If we ever make something like a real introduction
to a show, like (to reference something concrete)
Usagi does, then we make a musical production for us like Usagi did.

This bumper is hardly an introduction piece.
Its a curiosity; a moving logo.  It needs no music.

On 5/1/2024 3:32 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
> On Wed, May 1, 2024 at 3:07 PM Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <
> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
> 
>> I'm only talking about the music.
>> The graphic and clicks are fine!
>>
>> Why is the music no good:
>>
>>   >people wouldn't like it cause they cannot recognize it?
>> Yes. If they don't recognize it, its a waste of their
>> attention.  Why play a trick on them with something?
>> played backwards?
> 
> 
> The author didn’t intend to trick people, only to make it “more upbeat”.
> 
> I would argue that it doesn’t have to be recognizable. Look at other
> YouTube bumpers. They are original and not copied from another author.
> 
> In this case since it is from 1892, then I would say it is in the public
> domain.
> 
> I think the goal is to make it a fun, appealing, unique tune that can be
> associated with VCF. I feel that it better to have something than nothing.
> 
> I’m open to suggestions or offers of a composer creating a new one that is
> royalty free.
> 
> 
> 
>>
>>   > If you don't like that 7 second clip what are other suggestions?
>> The clip is OK, just drop that nonsense "music".
>> It is already and obscure reference, and playing it backwards
>> is aweful. The notes of the song are actually not recognizable,
>> but the melody sung is.  This uses the otherwise unrecognizable
>> musical notes of the song and reverses them too. Its a
>> cruel joke.
>>
>>
>> On 5/1/2024 2:55 PM, Andrew Diller wrote:
>>> I disagree. First, it's just 7 seconds of the music, 2 seconds of the
>> typing noise.
>>>
>>> How does the general public factor into your assessment? Do you mean
>> that people wouldn't like it cause they cannot recognize it? Just wondering
>> and hoping for more words about that statement.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the sound is short, interesting, and sparse enough to be
>> excellent soundscape for the bumper.
>>>
>>> If you don't like that 7 second clip what are other suggestions?
>>>
>>>
>>> -andy
>>>
>>>
>>>> On May 1, 2024, at 2:21 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <
>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm not a fan of the use of it here in this case for the
>>>> general public.
>>>>
>>>>> but played backwards and tweaked
>>>> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!  WHY?  Just to make it completely obscured?
>>>>
>>>> The sung melody might be OK or at least be recognizable.
>>>> The IBM computer sang the song. (which interestingly sounds amazing
>> like the SAM voice famously on the C64 and other platforms.)
>>>> But I wouldn't want to suffer through it every bumper play.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/1/2024 12:40 AM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:11 PM Bob Flanders via vcf-midatlantic <
>>>>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I think it would be enough to have the logo appear without letters
>> then the
>>>>>> typing. it's fun the first time, but after a few vids it would get ...
>>>>>> uncomfortable.
>>>>>>
>>>>> This tune in this bumper was a "Daisy Bell" from 1892 by Harry Dacre.
>> It
>>>>> was the first singing song on an IBM 7094, but played backwards and
>> tweaked
>>>>> with the tone so it sounded more upbeat.
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41U78QP8nBk
>>>>> Full story on this song is here:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_vDpMz7IZk
>>>>> We thought it was very historical, but it seems that some people don't
>> like
>>>>> it. We're open to other ideas.
>>>>>    Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:02 PM Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <
>>>>>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We had a volunteer create a bumper for our future VCF videos. What
>> does
>>>>>>> everyone think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/3c0F9bENQW4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anyone identify:
>>>>>>> 1) The computer starting up
>>>>>>> 2) The song
>>>>>>> 3) The keyboard making the clicking sounds?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take care!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeff Brace
>>>>>>> VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President
>>>>>>> Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner
>>>>>>> VCF Mid-Atlantic Event Manager
>>>>>>> Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/ter+Federation+is+a+501c3+charity?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>> https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/>
>>>>>>> jeffrey at vcfed.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Douglas Crawford
>>>> VCF Mid-Atlantic Museum Mgr
>>>> InfoAge Science & History Museums
>>>> 2201 Marconi Road
>>>> Wall, NJ 07719
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Douglas Crawford
>> VCF Mid-Atlantic Museum Mgr
>> InfoAge Science & History Museums
>> 2201 Marconi Road
>> Wall, NJ 07719
>>

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Douglas Crawford
VCF Mid-Atlantic Museum Mgr
InfoAge Science & History Museums
2201 Marconi Road
Wall, NJ 07719