[vcf-midatlantic] VCF Bumper to videos

Thu May 2 07:29:04 UTC 2024

we'll take it offline.
Branding is important.

On 5/1/2024 6:11 PM, Sentrytv wrote:
> REALLY
> All all of this hubbub over 10 seconds of video and sound?
> 
> 
> Sent from:
> My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
> 
>> On May 1, 2024, at 4:23 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>>
>> OK, but you justified this as being based on something
>> of historical significance, then reverse it into
>> something that isn't even musical.
>> That's a bad idea.
>>
>> Yes others use original music. But it is MUSICAL.
>> A reverse of a on old melody is probably not even musical.
>> I recommend no music for this bumper.
>> If we ever make something like a real introduction
>> to a show, like (to reference something concrete)
>> Usagi does, then we make a musical production for us like Usagi did.
>>
>> This bumper is hardly an introduction piece.
>> Its a curiosity; a moving logo.  It needs no music.
>>
>>> On 5/1/2024 3:32 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
>>>> On Wed, May 1, 2024 at 3:07 PM Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <
>>>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>>>> I'm only talking about the music.
>>>> The graphic and clicks are fine!
>>>>
>>>> Why is the music no good:
>>>>
>>>>   >people wouldn't like it cause they cannot recognize it?
>>>> Yes. If they don't recognize it, its a waste of their
>>>> attention.  Why play a trick on them with something?
>>>> played backwards?
>>> The author didn’t intend to trick people, only to make it “more upbeat”.
>>> I would argue that it doesn’t have to be recognizable. Look at other
>>> YouTube bumpers. They are original and not copied from another author.
>>> In this case since it is from 1892, then I would say it is in the public
>>> domain.
>>> I think the goal is to make it a fun, appealing, unique tune that can be
>>> associated with VCF. I feel that it better to have something than nothing.
>>> I’m open to suggestions or offers of a composer creating a new one that is
>>> royalty free.
>>>>
>>>>   > If you don't like that 7 second clip what are other suggestions?
>>>> The clip is OK, just drop that nonsense "music".
>>>> It is already and obscure reference, and playing it backwards
>>>> is aweful. The notes of the song are actually not recognizable,
>>>> but the melody sung is.  This uses the otherwise unrecognizable
>>>> musical notes of the song and reverses them too. Its a
>>>> cruel joke.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/1/2024 2:55 PM, Andrew Diller wrote:
>>>>> I disagree. First, it's just 7 seconds of the music, 2 seconds of the
>>>> typing noise.
>>>>>
>>>>> How does the general public factor into your assessment? Do you mean
>>>> that people wouldn't like it cause they cannot recognize it? Just wondering
>>>> and hoping for more words about that statement.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the sound is short, interesting, and sparse enough to be
>>>> excellent soundscape for the bumper.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't like that 7 second clip what are other suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -andy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 1, 2024, at 2:21 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic <
>>>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not a fan of the use of it here in this case for the
>>>>>> general public.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but played backwards and tweaked
>>>>>> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!  WHY?  Just to make it completely obscured?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sung melody might be OK or at least be recognizable.
>>>>>> The IBM computer sang the song. (which interestingly sounds amazing
>>>> like the SAM voice famously on the C64 and other platforms.)
>>>>>> But I wouldn't want to suffer through it every bumper play.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/1/2024 12:40 AM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:11 PM Bob Flanders via vcf-midatlantic <
>>>>>>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I think it would be enough to have the logo appear without letters
>>>> then the
>>>>>>>> typing. it's fun the first time, but after a few vids it would get ...
>>>>>>>> uncomfortable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This tune in this bumper was a "Daisy Bell" from 1892 by Harry Dacre.
>>>> It
>>>>>>> was the first singing song on an IBM 7094, but played backwards and
>>>> tweaked
>>>>>>> with the tone so it sounded more upbeat.
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41U78QP8nBk
>>>>>>> Full story on this song is here:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_vDpMz7IZk
>>>>>>> We thought it was very historical, but it seems that some people don't
>>>> like
>>>>>>> it. We're open to other ideas.
>>>>>>>    Jeff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:02 PM Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <
>>>>>>>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We had a volunteer create a bumper for our future VCF videos. What
>>>> does
>>>>>>>>> everyone think?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/3c0F9bENQW4
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can anyone identify:
>>>>>>>>> 1) The computer starting up
>>>>>>>>> 2) The song
>>>>>>>>> 3) The keyboard making the clicking sounds?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Take care!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jeff Brace
>>>>>>>>> VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President
>>>>>>>>> Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner
>>>>>>>>> VCF Mid-Atlantic Event Manager
>>>>>>>>> Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/ter+Federation+is+a+501c3+charity?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>>> https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/>
>>>>>>>>> jeffrey at vcfed.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Douglas Crawford
>>>>>> VCF Mid-Atlantic Museum Mgr
>>>>>> InfoAge Science & History Museums
>>>>>> 2201 Marconi Road
>>>>>> Wall, NJ 07719
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Douglas Crawford
>>>> VCF Mid-Atlantic Museum Mgr
>>>> InfoAge Science & History Museums
>>>> 2201 Marconi Road
>>>> Wall, NJ 07719
>>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Douglas Crawford
>> VCF Mid-Atlantic Museum Mgr
>> InfoAge Science & History Museums
>> 2201 Marconi Road
>> Wall, NJ 07719
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Douglas Crawford
VCF Mid-Atlantic Museum Mgr
InfoAge Science & History Museums
2201 Marconi Road
Wall, NJ 07719