[vcf-midatlantic] Recovering Macintosh floppies

[Tony Bogan]

The applesauce works on the mini I donated as the docent machine. It’s been used with it before.

The se/30 can also recover the disks as I have not only recovered but repaired disks from that era with utilities from that era numerous times. The se/30 won’t eject the disk if it’s loaded once repair software is running. I’ve done this many times including for people from the museum but now that we have the applesauce that’s really the easiest way for it to be done. Contact me again off list Jeff if you still want me to bring the machine if you don’t have someone that knows how to use applesauce. 

Tony Bogan 
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> On May 13, 2024, at 4:53 PM, Alexander Jacocks via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
> 
> The Applesauce is the right tool, and we should have the Mac Mini attached
> to the device that Tony donated, in addition to Andy's PowerBook.
> 
> - Alex
> 
>> On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 11:12 AM Wil via vcf-midatlantic <
>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I would look into one of these https://webstore.kryoflux.com/catalog/ a
>> kryoflux. There is also greaseweasel as an alternative. Basically it does a
>> image at such a low level, it can copy anything, including all the best
>> copy protection methods from back in the day for floppies. Doesn't matter
>> what platform the disk is formated to.
>> 
>> I am not 100 percent sure but pretty sure you can then find tools to
>> extract the image for use in a emulator or otherwise find tools to extract
>> the files.  This is much more likely to be easy to experiment extraction
>> virtual or as you say mount on a Mac emulator and screen shot the files.
>> 
>> On May 13, 2024 10:55, Andrew Diller via vcf-midatlantic <
>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>> 
>> There is an apple computer to connect to it- the Apple Powerbook that I
>> donated a few years ago. It was connected to the Applesauce at one point
>> and was used to read some floppies.
>> 
>> The SE/30 isn't going to help if there are any issues w/ the floppy itself
>> (high probability). The Applesauce will keep trying and recover what it
>> can, the SE/30 will just eject the disk on the first error it encounters.
>> 
>> So if the disks _are_ 100% perfect the SE/30 will read them. But what are
>> you going to do then? Moving them to another more modern system won't be
>> possible unless the SE/30 has ethernet. Then you can connect to the
>> AppleShare server that BenK and I setup for the BBS system on that network.
>> You will also need appropriate software apps on the SE/30 to open the
>> documents (if you can read them, if the floppy is 100% good).
>> 
>> The best path is to use the Applesauce to pull a flux image and then use a
>> virtual Mac (appropriate OS version to run the right App version) with the
>> appropriate software that can read the save documents (i.e. Word 4
>> perhaps).
>> 
>> Those are my suggestions.
>> 
>> -andy
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2024, at 11:39 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <
>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 8:14 AM David Ryskalczyk <d235j.1 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There is an Applesauce at the museum that may be usable for this. I
>> can’t
>>>> remember if it has a 3.5” drive that can be connected to it.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Applesauce works, but there is no Apple computer working to connect
>> to
>>> it, so it is unusable until that happens.
>>> 
>>> Tony Bogan will lend us a Mac SE/30 so that I can at least read the disk
>>> and see what is on it.
>>> Then I can go from there.
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On May 10, 2024, at 8:02 AM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <
>>>> vcf-midatlantic at lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK. No one answered this. Does anyone have working Quadra and is
>> local
>>>> to
>>>>> InfoAge?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Someone is looking to recover files from a 3.5 floppy disk. It is
>> unknown
>>>>> which software it was made with.
>>>>> 
>>>>> He needs to:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Print out the files (each is a character study of no more than 10
>>>>> print pages)
>>>>> - Open the files and allow him to use his  cell phone to capture each
>>>>> page to re-type on his PC
>>>>> - Or provide some other way of capturing the file contents so he can
>>>>> re-create these data on a modern computer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let me know if you are local and can help.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 11:00 PM Jeffrey Brace <jeffrey at vcfed.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Is there someone coming to the repair workshop that can help someone
>>>>>> recover Macintosh files from 3.5" disks? Likely they are word
>> processing
>>>>>> files from a Quadra.
>>>>>> Please let me know.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Jeff Brace
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
>>