I need advice how to best digitize video, mostly standard def TV/NTSC of VCF events. I have several USB dongles that take composite and S-video. They may be adequate, but I don't know what one's really best. I also have several DVR (digital VCR): Tivo, Sonic Blue replay-tv. Did those have good front-ends or was most of the attention to the subscription service? I know they need to be "jail broken" to work like VCRs. There's no big red "just record NOW!" button :-( thanks -- Jeff Jonas
Jeff, There are times, esp when ultimate quality is not necessary, to simply record the video off of a nice TV playing the video. Pulling old media into modern files is preferred if you have all of the dongles to make the connections, adjust impedance, etc. You can always start with the easy solution and spend time to perfect the most important of the videos. If you have a lot of video it might be nice to set up a video conversion station that you know has a working process. b On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:40 PM Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I need advice how to best digitize video, mostly standard def TV/NTSC of VCF events.
I have several USB dongles that take composite and S-video. They may be adequate, but I don't know what one's really best.
I also have several DVR (digital VCR): Tivo, Sonic Blue replay-tv. Did those have good front-ends or was most of the attention to the subscription service? I know they need to be "jail broken" to work like VCRs. There's no big red "just record NOW!" button :-(
thanks
-- Jeff Jonas
Jeff, Hit up David Sica / I gave a high end capture device to the ARC a while back Martin Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 6, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Jeff, There are times, esp when ultimate quality is not necessary, to simply record the video off of a nice TV playing the video. Pulling old media into modern files is preferred if you have all of the dongles to make the connections, adjust impedance, etc. You can always start with the easy solution and spend time to perfect the most important of the videos. If you have a lot of video it might be nice to set up a video conversion station that you know has a working process.
b
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:40 PM Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I need advice how to best digitize video, mostly standard def TV/NTSC of VCF events.
I have several USB dongles that take composite and S-video. They may be adequate, but I don't know what one's really best.
I also have several DVR (digital VCR): Tivo, Sonic Blue replay-tv. Did those have good front-ends or was most of the attention to the subscription service? I know they need to be "jail broken" to work like VCRs. There's no big red "just record NOW!" button :-(
thanks
-- Jeff Jonas
I need advice how to best digitize video, mostly standard def TV/NTSC of VCF events. I have several USB dongles that take composite and S-video. They may be adequate, but I don't know what one's really best.
Any idea if they capture at 720 x 480 pixels?
I also have several DVR (digital VCR): Tivo, Sonic Blue replay-tv. Did those have good front-ends or was most of the attention to the subscription service? I know they need to be "jail broken" to work like VCRs. There's no big red "just record NOW!" button :-(
Good chance the dongles do pretty good. Do you have a good working VCR to play them on? Are the tapes in good condition? On video tapes, if the video drops out due to noise / old tapes it causes frames to be lost. When this happens the audio comes out of sync with the video. A time base corrector will solve this by providing a rock solid frame count to match the audio digitization, but wouldn't be needed usually if the video tape quality is still good. SVideo connection might give better video quality as well if you have a deck with it. It's out on loan right now but I have a JVC BR-811U SVHS deck with TBC, composite/svideo to SDI converter and SDI capture dongle for computer. Depending on how many tapes there are I might be able to digitize them for you once I get my machine back. - Ethan
thanks
-- Jeff Jonas
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:39 PM Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I need advice how to best digitize video, mostly standard def TV/NTSC of VCF events
I don’t understand. Are you converting VHS tapes to digital format?
I have several USB dongles that take composite and S-video. They may be adequate, but I don't know what one's really best.
I also have several DVR (digital VCR): Tivo, Sonic Blue replay-tv. Did those have good front-ends or was most of the attention to the subscription service? I know they need to be "jail broken" to work like VCRs. There's no big red "just record NOW!" button :-(
thanks
-- Jeff Jonas
-- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey@vcfed.org
Just curious what medium, format, type, are you using now? Another words, are these recordings currently on VHS? Or something else? If you’re looking for a “ camcorder” I may be able to persuade my wife to sell her DVcam! Mike R. Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.
On Apr 6, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I need advice how to best digitize video, mostly standard def TV/NTSC of VCF events.
I have several USB dongles that take composite and S-video. They may be adequate, but I don't know what one's really best.
I also have several DVR (digital VCR): Tivo, Sonic Blue replay-tv. Did those have good front-ends or was most of the attention to the subscription service? I know they need to be "jail broken" to work like VCRs. There's no big red "just record NOW!" button :-(
thanks
-- Jeff Jonas
Not sure if this is relevant but thought it might provide some ideas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC5Zr3NC2PY On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:40 PM Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I need advice how to best digitize video, mostly standard def TV/NTSC of VCF events.
I have several USB dongles that take composite and S-video. They may be adequate, but I don't know what one's really best.
I also have several DVR (digital VCR): Tivo, Sonic Blue replay-tv. Did those have good front-ends or was most of the attention to the subscription service? I know they need to be "jail broken" to work like VCRs. There's no big red "just record NOW!" button :-(
thanks
-- Jeff Jonas
When I capture VHS tapes and LDs, I use a Canopus DV capture box. There's a lot of back and forth about how this is not the best way to do it, it's double compressing it, etc... but I find it works well enough. -J On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 3:23 PM Chris Fala via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
Not sure if this is relevant but thought it might provide some ideas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC5Zr3NC2PY
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:40 PM Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I need advice how to best digitize video, mostly standard def TV/NTSC of VCF events.
I have several USB dongles that take composite and S-video. They may be adequate, but I don't know what one's really best.
I also have several DVR (digital VCR): Tivo, Sonic Blue replay-tv. Did those have good front-ends or was most of the attention to the subscription service? I know they need to be "jail broken" to work like VCRs. There's no big red "just record NOW!" button :-(
thanks
-- Jeff Jonas
-- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085
Jeff, A few questions to help narrow things down first. 1. What format are the tapes, VHS, Video-8, Mini-DV, Etc? 2. What platform are you using Mac, Windows, Linux? 3. What are you looking to do with the video, make standard watchable DVD’s, Edit, Post on YouTube? I can help steer you in the right direction. My day job is a video archivist who deals with tape from the 70’s to the 2010’s. Matt Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 6, 2021, at 12:40 PM, Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> wrote:
I need advice how to best digitize video, mostly standard def TV/NTSC of VCF events.
I have several USB dongles that take composite and S-video. They may be adequate, but I don't know what one's really best.
I also have several DVR (digital VCR): Tivo, Sonic Blue replay-tv. Did those have good front-ends or was most of the attention to the subscription service? I know they need to be "jail broken" to work like VCRs. There's no big red "just record NOW!" button :-(
thanks
-- Jeff Jonas
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