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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Friday classes @ VCF East
by Chris Fala 19 Jan '19

19 Jan '19

I would go to this class. Lots of people need this information. Newbies are ruining their newly acquired retro machines because they don’t know what they are doing or are watching The 8-Bit Guy too much. On Jan 18, 2019, at 11:42 AM, Tony Bogan <thebogans(a)mac.com> wrote: I was tossing around the idea of doing a “basic Restoration and troubleshooting your micro computer collection for beginners” class focused on Apple II and compact Macs specifically, since those are in my wheelhouse. Obviously some of the cleaning and basic techniques would apply to other types of machines. The idea is people starting a collection or even those who may have vintage micros but are just starting to add Apple II and/or Compact Macs to their collection and are looking for tips, hints, ideas of where to start and what to do. No oscilloscopes or multimeters, just the basics of cleaning, testing, simple troubleshooting as well as where to find helpful information . I even considered either CDs (which I already have the ISO file to make them, but CDs are fading from daily use) or cheap usb sticks to give to attendees that already have a nice collection of the manuals and how-to books and service notes I’ve collected over the years in pdf format. My concern is the focus may be too narrow to garner any amount of attendance since 90% of the focus is Apple specific. Any thoughts? Tony

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Friday classes @ VCF East
by Tony Bogan 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

On Jan 18, 2019, at 03:23 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: Here's what I have in mind for Friday. We can extend the day by one slot (one hour per slot), so there are 18 classes instead of 15. 1. Apple II (Tony) 2. Mac (Tony) 3. Atari 800 4. C-64 5. Amiga 6. IBM PC 7. TI-99/4A (because it never gets any love) 8. TRS-80 9. CoCo 10. S-100 11. Land of CRTs (we all know who!) 12. "So you are curious about big iron" 13. Schleptops! 14. Power supplies 15. Electronics 101 (Fala) 16. Unix networking (Diller) 17. Unix weirdness (Jacocks) 18. Terminals? Keyboards? Disk imaging? Or anything else Looks good to me! In the event there are not enough bodies to fill the slots, then you could just recombine the apple ii and Mac back into one class. Whatever works best! Tony

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Museum Tomorrow (Saturday)
by corey cohen 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

You do know there is a monitor rom and kill the bit in eprom on the museum’s ALTAIR. There was a piece of paper under the ALTAIR with the memory addresses where the software is located. Worst case I think I have the bin files that were used to make the proms so I can figure it out on the weekend. corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 18, 2019, at 2:41 PM, Tony Bogan <thebogans(a)mac.com> wrote: > > Evan will be at the front desk at Infoage tomorrow so I will be docent in the museum from 1 to 5. > > > > Anyone not busy enjoying their weekend feel free to stop by! Going to test out my step by step "instructions for the front panel impaired" for the Altair and practice Dave G's instructions for the PDP. > > > > Company is always welcome! > > > > Tony >

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Friday classes @ VCF East
by Evan Koblentz 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

I'm starting to plan the Friday tech talks for VCF East. Andy D. said he'll do one about TCP/IP for vintage Unix computers. That gave me an idea: what if we do a whole *nix track? There are five classes per track. Each class is one hour. So, please speak up if you'd like to be an instructor. (That's important. We need people to say, "I will do it," not just "Someone should do it.")

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East dates - May 3-5
by Evan Koblentz 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

We're still waiting on IA management to make it super-duper-official, but, East will be May 3-4-5.

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Museum Tomorrow (Saturday)
by Tony Bogan 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

Evan will be at the front desk at Infoage tomorrow so I will be docent in the museum from 1 to 5. Anyone not busy enjoying their weekend feel free to stop by! Going to test out my step by step "instructions for the front panel impaired" for the Altair and practice Dave G's instructions for the PDP. Company is always welcome! Tony

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Friday classes @ VCF East
by Tony Bogan 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

Based on responses both public and private I’ll offer to do a class as previously described. If the powers that be deem it not worthy due to its focus, then that’ll mean more time Friday to set up the exhibit!!! Meanwhile I’d like to see if anyone either Commodore or Atari centric would be interested in possibly doing a duo. I’d like to have multiple “popular” platforms covered at once but a one hour class could easily be filled with one specific brand let alone several. Two I think would be doable. And Apple II/compact Mac and Commodore or Atari works for me if anyone else is interested. Again, one hour is so easily filled that more than two platforms would mean a lot less quality for all of them. If no one else is interested I could do a really comprehensive one on just the two Apple platforms. Ok, those that know me know I could talk for 10 hours without taking a breath but you get the idea! Volunteers? Tony

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Whoa! 11/70
by Evan Koblentz 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

Forget the BeBox thread :), check out this in Pennsylvania: https://www.ebay.com/itm/DEC-PDP-11-70-Datasystem-570/113553953503

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Friday classes @ VCF East
by VAXman＠tmesis.org 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> writes: > > >> What sort of class is wanted?=C2=A0 Ideas: > > 1) vintage Sun hardware >101 > 2) Solaris or hp-ux primer > 3)=C2=A0scsi basics > 4) 680x0 >workstations and servers (lots of different vendors had them) > > >Others? > > >How about an overview class of weird/unusual Unixes? I know there's >one for Amiga; what others are off the beaten path? It's all weird. ;)

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Feb Workshop Signup - February 9 & 10, 2019 - VCF Repair Workshop
by Jeffrey Brace 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

So the next workshop will be February 9 & 10, 2019. Same place, same time. Here is the signup sheet: < https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11Iy1jqPJqVzY1gnGRrHfLfIcx5IQ82QkkaB… > We tried Patrick's Pub for Saturday dinner and it was a bust. I take the blame for this one. It had great potential, and came highly recommended. I didn't call ahead and didn't anticipate the large crowd due to football playoffs. The waitress was cranky, the service slow, etc. I think that this place is probably hit or miss. When it's busy, then terrible, when not busy then fine. I will check out the next place in person to make sure. I think that we will try Asbury Festhalle & Biergarten.This one is highly recommended and Yelp rates it as a 3.5 out of 5. I also have a great idea for a different diner for Sunday breakfast. The Americana Diner which is only 2 minutes further away than the Blue Swan Diner. It's the best diner in the area. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation

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Evan’s Favorite “F” Word (first)
by Chris Fala 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

Something about this article rubs me the wrong way. For starters, he leaves out the word “portable” which makes the whole “first” thing false. What else can you say Evan? https://www.neweggbusiness.com/smartbuyer/systems/the-lasting-effects-of-th…

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] NeXT(s) f/s in Maryland
by Evan Koblentz 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

I sent the seller a message. -EK

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Now: BeBox Was: NeXT
by systems_glitch 17 Jan '19

17 Jan '19

I've got a dual 133 MHz BeBox I'm working on fixing up. I bought it from a local guy, it had been bricked some time in the 90's by a bad firmware update. Another BeBox owner on #vc IRC got me the flash rescue floppy for BeOS PR1, and that's gotten it as far as being able to actually boot the NetBSD 8 installer. Apparently the floppy rescue is often unreliable though, I don't get the Be logo on startup, and BeOS doesn't want to finish booting. It is indeed very interesting hardware, with an interesting OS to go with it. Growing up, a friend of mine had one -- his dad worked for TWA as a programmer and had convinced them to get him a 66 MHz BeBox. When the 133 MHz version came along, my friend got the old 66 MHz one. Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 3:10 PM Glenn Holmer via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > On 1/17/19 10:43 AM, Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > > > > For those not familiar, Be was a company launched by Jean Louis Gassie > > (spelling) of Apple. He I believe was the guy behind Apple's 55% profit > > margin (Source the Jim Carrolton book.) > > > > Be was pretty good multimedia wise, good multitasking, was not decaying > > in that it was cleanly designed that updates and upgrades never harmed > > the root OS files I believe. It existed for the BeBox which was a dual > > PPC machine, Mac and PC hardware. > > And it lives on in Haiku! > > https://www.haiku-os.org/ > > -- > Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) > "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." >

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NeXT(s) f/s in Maryland
by Evan Koblentz 17 Jan '19

17 Jan '19

I saw this on Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/groups/208724552490319?view=permalink&id=27322057834…

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] NeXT(s) f/s in Maryland
by Tony Bogan 17 Jan '19

17 Jan '19

My apologies for two emails, I hit send before finishing my thoughts. On my way to work. There is more than just the Be box angle here too. We now have a NeXT Cube. “A” NeXT cube. Not some, not a couple, not several. So no backup, no parts machine. This person has several. 4 to be precise, two he’s looking to unload. He has a iie to iigs conversion. We don’t. They aren’t “rare” but they are hard to come by and are expensive. The list goes on. I think I’ve made my point. It only takes one “YES” out of 1000 “NO” responses to make a difference. End of line. Tony

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] NeXT(s) f/s in Maryland
by Evan Koblentz 17 Jan '19

17 Jan '19

>> Is this about the expense or the transport? Nope. Our policy is that we don't purchase artifacts. We only accept donations. >> Has anybody reached out to him officially on behalf of VCF? I think "we're a nonprofit dedicated to... _mission_ that doesn't have a BeBox, and this would be a key part of our collection. It would be very appreciated." Is a compelling point to make for someone who clearly cares about his collection. We did not reach out. Unfortunately, we've found that such requests fall on deaf ears. Once someone decides to sell, they see dollar signs not altruism. On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 3:26 AM m simons via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org wrote: > Is this about the expense or the transport? Has anybody reached out to > him officially on behalf of VCF? I think "we're a nonprofit dedicated to... > _mission_ that doesn't have a BeBox, and this would be a key part of our > collection. It would be very appreciated." Is a compelling point to make > for someone who clearly cares about his collection. > > I don't go down there often, but my sister lives in the Baltimore area if > I'm ever there when something comes up I might be able to ferry things back > up to NJ at least half way. > > Man, do I really want a 4000 one of these days.. especially a 4000T > eventually.. this collection is... :O > > --MS > On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 10:09:39 PM EST, Evan Koblentz via > vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Someone please get it for us!! We don't have one. :( > > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019, 5:08 PM Christian Liendo <cliendo(a)gmail.com wrote: > > > That guy has a BeBox. > > > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 5:06 PM Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < > > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > >> I saw this on Facebook: > >> > >> > https://m.facebook.com/groups/208724552490319?view=permalink&id=27322057834… > >> > > > >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] NeXT(s) f/s in Maryland
by Lou 17 Jan '19

17 Jan '19

I would pay some serious Money for that BeBox. Hot damn!

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] OT: help the makerspace @ InfoAge
by Evan Koblentz 16 Jan '19

16 Jan '19

> If InfoAge is a 501(c)3 and they have been a part of / program of InfoAge - in other words InfoAge has been acting as an umbrella and a fiscal sponsor to them, and they are now simply spinning off, then couldn't people donate to InfoAge on behalf of the project of independence for this organization? As long as InfoAge would utilize funds donated for that specific purpose, for that purpose, I would think it would be a legitimate tax deductible charitable contribution. That is 100% correct. However, the people who are leading the makerspace -- people who I know and trust very well, and 100% vouch for -- feel much more comfortable raising the funds directly and being completely in control of it, vs. having it go to IA and then waiting to get it routed.

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OT: Recentish server and network hardware for sale
by Adam Michlin 16 Jan '19

16 Jan '19

Contact: geschwinda1(a)gmail.com (not me) Location: Maplewood, NJ - Motivated seller leaving the country in a few months Price is for each unless otherwise indicated but is negotiable, especially for large quantities: 2x Dell Poweredge T610 (dual Xeon E5645 CPUs, 24gb RAM - parts/broken?) $50 ea 2x Dell Poweredge 2900 (untested, 32gb RAM, single CPU) $100 ea 2x Dell Poweredge T110 II (unknown condition) $20 ea 2x Cisco UCS C200 M2 (redundant PSUs, 24gb RAM, dual quad-core Xeon CPUs, 4x 1tb SAS HDDs in RAID 10) $150 ea 1x Powervault 132T (2x ultrium 3 drives, 14? tapes) $150 1x PE 1800 (no PSU, unknown condition) $20 or thrown in with other stuff 2x IBM eServer i5 9406-520 (unknown condition) make an offer 1x Dell/EMC CX3-80 (unknown condition) - make an offer 1x Powervault 220S (unknown condition) $20 or thrown in with other stuff 7x Dell Poweredge 2850 (no RAM, some HDDs, untested) $30 for 1, $20 each for 2+, $100 for all 7 3x Dell Poweredge R200 (some tested, some not) $40 for 1 or $80 for all 3 1x Dell Poweredge 1900 (untested) $40 1x Apple server (no drives, fans spin and lights turn on but I don't have a cable to check the display) $50 1x Powervault 122T (untested)$30 2x Dell Poweredge1855/1955 blade enclosures (untested)$200 7x Dell Poweredge1955 blades (untested)$20 ea I also have a KVMdongle for USB and VGA output from the PE 1955 blades 1x Dell Poweredge1655MC blade enclosure & 6x PE 1655MC blades (untested) $100 for whole lot Cisco 2501 router (untested) $10 2x Cisco 1841 router (untested)$25used, $35in open (refurb?) box Cisco 2821 router (untested)$40 HP Procurve 2650 switch (untested)$25 Free or recycling: 1x PE 2500 2x PE 2450 (significant damage?)

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Jan Workshop Report
by Eric Rangell 15 Jan '19

15 Jan '19

I want to thank Todd for his excellent support in helping me diagnose the issues with the C64 I purchased at Festivus. We used the dead test cartridge to identify suspect RAM, then a logic probe to check the levels on those chips. He desoldered and resocketed them and the machine booted to Basic. Also, Jeff gave me some leads on where to find equipment for the machine. I was able to plan my VCF exhibit, which will teach people the basics of how to program a Replica 1 Plus by typing in hex codes to make it print their name. Or people can play Microchess with a Kim Uno or run programs on the Replica 1+. I got the Replica 1 Plus to use a Raspberry Pi as a serial terminal, so that gives it a nice small footprint. I also got Plamen's Passport MIDI card (a2heaven.com) to work in a GS by routing wires through the back panel to midi sockets on a breadboard. I also built a 6522 chip tester using an Arduino Mega and Data Logger shield - I soldered a ZIF socket to a PCB with ribbon cable jumpers going to the pins. I had previously worked on the test harness software, which can be seen at https://github.com/erangell/RMChipTester This will help Henry C. identify bad chips from suppliers. I still need to write more test scripts, so if anyone is willing to help let me know. At the end of the day I watched David G. give a fun demo of the PDP8 in the museum. He showed us how to enter the boot code and read and run programs from paper tape. Conceptually it all fits with my understanding of how computers execute code - the only differences I see are the hardware and the machine instruction set. Thanks to all of you for your friendship and support - it means a lot to me. Eric Rangell

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SGI Indigo help at tomorrow's workshop (Saturday)
by Adam Michlin 15 Jan '19

15 Jan '19

Hi Everyone, I'm bringing my SGI Indigo to the workshop. Known working CPU, keyboard, RAM and hard drives. Possibly working mouse (likely). Two appropriate CD-ROM drives that don't seem to work (with caddies). I'm just trying to get IRIX installed so I can do some MIPS programming on real hardware. If any one can bring appropriate installation CDs and a known working external CD-ROM, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -Adam

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Jan Workshop Report
by Jeffrey Brace 14 Jan '19

14 Jan '19

The workshop was great. I estimate that on Saturday there was about 20 people there. Lots of things fixed. I started evaluating my many, many C64, but didn’t get very far. I will get started earlier on Saturday next time as many people do one day and leave early. Who else wants to tell what they worked on and fixed? -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation

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Pictures from Jan Workshop
by dillera＠gmail.com 14 Jan '19

14 Jan '19

Some photos from the Jan 2019 workshop, which was fun and productive: -andy

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Andy's Jan Workshop Report
by dillera＠gmail.com 14 Jan '19

14 Jan '19

Hello- Ok, I'll put some words on what I did. It was a fun productive Saturday and I hope to see most of you all next month. - Completed sale/trade/swap for some excess stuff I'm getting rid of - Setup my Network based IRIX install and worked with Lou and Adam to install IRIX on their SGI workstations. We did complete an install for Adam on his Indigo 1. - We grabbed the VCF's SGI systems from the warehouse and brought them back to the room for a shake down - I had an Amiga 2000 system setup to copy OS disks but didn't end up using that - I saw a lot of amazing work - the Pet keyboard fix, lots of C64 fixing, Tandy 6000, Mac Apple work. - I saw Ian fixing every CRT around and got them squared up and sharpened - I smelled a capacitor giving up the smoke in a Profile disk on a IIe Didn't have enough time to look at the VCF SGI systems - but that is my plan for Feb workshop. Images: https://imgur.com/a/oJuNPXo <https://imgur.com/a/oJuNPXo>

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] vcf-midatlantic Digest, Vol 8, Issue 14
by David Hoelzer 14 Jan '19

14 Jan '19

SCSI2SD work great in SGIs. On 1/14/19 12:00 PM, vcf-midatlantic-request(a)lists.vcfed.org wrote: > - bring up some SCSI2SD drives for the VCF's SGI systems > - boot them (if they work- we didn't test)

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Multiple SGIs for sale and other vintage stuff in West Orange
by Christian Liendo 14 Jan '19

14 Jan '19

Saw this on facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/VintageUnixEnthusiasts/?fref=nf Available today $500 for all SGI Indigo2s, with (3) 20" monitors & a Sun Ultra1 Creator with a 20" monitor. $250 for the quad Xeon Dell Poweredge & RAID. Also, the customized dual server rack in the picture is available for $250, today. Moving, have to sell before tomorrow night. Contact me immediately if you want them, you'll never get a deal like this again. Available for immediate local pickup, in West Orange, NJ, 20 minutes outside of NYC. Tons of PC parts & 486, Pentium desktops, CRT & LCD monitors, and other items commonly found in a hacker's lair. Retro computer Ataris, Amigas, arcade machine, 1970s ADDS Terminal... ALL MUST GO! Ridiculously low prices on everything individually, or $2,000 TAKES IT ALL for every bit of technology in my enormous stockpile. You will need to get them today or tomorrow, after that they are not available. Tell your friends, save this equipment, PLEASE! Located at: 47 Blackburne Terrace West Orange, NJ 07052

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Pictures
by Tony Bogan 14 Jan '19

14 Jan '19

Andy, the list doesn’t allow attachments. You need to host them somewhere and provide the link. Tony Sent from my iPhone

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TRS-80 Model 1 Complete System in Baltimore
by J. Alexander Jacocks 13 Jan '19

13 Jan '19

All, There is a complete and seemingly good condition TRS-80 Model 1 System, on Craigslist, in Baltimore. Nock yourself out, if they are your thing. https://baltimore.craigslist.org/sys/6787710400.html - Alex

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Muscle needed
by Evan Koblentz 13 Jan '19

13 Jan '19

Ian and I build a simple ramp to remove the VAX 9000 racks from their pallets. We got two racks de-palleted, but the other racks were too heavy for he and I to handle alone. A few clones of Ian may have been enough :) but all my strength is legs, not upper body. I don't know exactly how many racks are left to de-pallet. Probably around a dozen. It would help a lot if we could tackle at least some of them this weekend. Then the supercomputer will take up less space in the warehouse. Also, then we could put a couple of racks of it in the museum!

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Workshop Sunday Breakfast
by Jeffrey Brace 13 Jan '19

13 Jan '19

VCF Repair Workshoppers Will be eating at 9am in Blue Swan Diner on Ocean Township. That will be all. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Tandy 6000
by J. Alexander Jacocks 13 Jan '19

13 Jan '19

Also, don't forget that the HxC firmware is available for the Gotek, making it just as compatible as the real HxC drives, if not quite as well made and attractive. - Alex On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 2:28 PM Peter Cetinski via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Not sure about the Gotek. I know the standard HxC works well with the 8” > Tandy’s. > > Pete > > > On Jan 11, 2019, at 1:58 PM, Dean Notarnicola <dnotarnicola(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Of course, you are correct. I have a Gotek handy. Do you happen to know > if the flashfloppy firmware makes it compatible with the 6000? > > > > - Dean > > > >> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 1:39 PM Peter Cetinski via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >> It’s 19 disks for Xenix 3.2 with the 3.0 dev system, Dean! :) You > really want that because without it Tandy Xenix is mostly just a runtime > system. A few of the install disks are double sided as well. > >> > >> I highly recommend getting an HxC floppy emulator for the 6000. The > full Xenix install will push your TM-848 drive to the max. > >> > >> Also a good idea to image the diagnostics disk first so you can run the > full test suite of 68k diags before attempting the Xenix install. > >> > >> Pete > >> > >> > On Jan 11, 2019, at 1:29 PM, Ian Primus via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >> > > >> > I can bring my disk imaging setup, which can write those disks. > >> > > >> > -Ian > >> > > >> > On Friday, January 11, 2019, Dean Notarnicola via vcf-midatlantic < > >> > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >> > > >> >> I'll be bringing a Tandy 6000 to the workshop in addition to the Mac > Color > >> >> Classic II that I'll be attempting to restore. Would anyone have a > set of > >> >> TRSDOS II 4.2/4.3 or TRS-Xenix 3 (preferably) disks? I have some > blank 8" I > >> >> can use to copy them, or I'd be very happy to compensate someone for > a set > >> >> of one or both. > >> >> > >> >> - Dean > >> >> >

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[OT] Anyone Coming Today Have a Dell 2001fp PSU?
by J. Alexander Jacocks 12 Jan '19

12 Jan '19

If you could bring it, I’d appreciate it. - Alex

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Wanted: MFM hard drive
by Mike Loewen 12 Jan '19

12 Jan '19

I'm looking for a working MFM hard drive in the 30-40MB range. Does anyone have one to spare? An emulator would be desirable later (I already have one of Dave Gesswein's), but for now I'm looking for spinning rust. Mike Loewen mloewen(a)cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Tandy 6000
by Dean Notarnicola 11 Jan '19

11 Jan '19

Of course, you are correct. I have a Gotek handy. Do you happen to know if the flashfloppy firmware makes it compatible with the 6000? - Dean On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 1:39 PM Peter Cetinski via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > It’s 19 disks for Xenix 3.2 with the 3.0 dev system, Dean! :) You really > want that because without it Tandy Xenix is mostly just a runtime system. > A few of the install disks are double sided as well. > > I highly recommend getting an HxC floppy emulator for the 6000. The full > Xenix install will push your TM-848 drive to the max. > > Also a good idea to image the diagnostics disk first so you can run the > full test suite of 68k diags before attempting the Xenix install. > > Pete > > > On Jan 11, 2019, at 1:29 PM, Ian Primus via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > I can bring my disk imaging setup, which can write those disks. > > > > -Ian > > > > On Friday, January 11, 2019, Dean Notarnicola via vcf-midatlantic < > > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > >> I'll be bringing a Tandy 6000 to the workshop in addition to the Mac > Color > >> Classic II that I'll be attempting to restore. Would anyone have a set > of > >> TRSDOS II 4.2/4.3 or TRS-Xenix 3 (preferably) disks? I have some blank > 8" I > >> can use to copy them, or I'd be very happy to compensate someone for a > set > >> of one or both. > >> > >> - Dean > >> >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Working PATA IDE drive needed 250-500 gig
by Tony Bogan 11 Jan '19

11 Jan '19

I have a couple western digital 250GB drives still sealed, I’ll bring them with me. Tony Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 11, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > <mime-attachment>

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Tandy 6000
by Dean Notarnicola 11 Jan '19

11 Jan '19

I'll be bringing a Tandy 6000 to the workshop in addition to the Mac Color Classic II that I'll be attempting to restore. Would anyone have a set of TRSDOS II 4.2/4.3 or TRS-Xenix 3 (preferably) disks? I have some blank 8" I can use to copy them, or I'd be very happy to compensate someone for a set of one or both. - Dean

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Working PATA IDE drive needed 250-500 gig
by Sentrytv 11 Jan '19

11 Jan '19

Looking for a couple of working drives to expand XBOX storage Seagate, WD, Maxtor should all work If anyone has spares I'll be at workshop tomorrow 10-5 Mike Rosen Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] vcf-midatlantic Digest, Vol 8, Issue 11
by David Hoelzer 11 Jan '19

11 Jan '19

If you aren't able to get things going at the workshop, reach out to me directly. I have an Indigo (green 10k), Octane, and O2 happily running. I can also help you out with Irix installs and other misc. software, especially with Nekochan gone. On 1/11/19 12:00 PM, vcf-midatlantic-request(a)lists.vcfed.org wrote: > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 09:20:44 -0500 > From: Adam Michlin<amichlin(a)swerlin.com> > To:vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org > Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] SGI Indigo help at tomorrow's workshop > (Saturday) > Message-ID:<91327c9a-5ded-f18e-6a97-f9ac383852fc(a)swerlin.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi Everyone, > > I'm bringing my SGI Indigo to the workshop. Known working CPU, keyboard, > RAM and hard drives. Possibly working mouse (likely). Two appropriate > CD-ROM drives that don't seem to work (with caddies). > > I'm just trying to get IRIX installed so I can do some MIPS programming > on real hardware. If any one can bring appropriate installation CDs and > a known working external CD-ROM, it would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > ???? -Adam

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Looking for Tandy 1000 EX HX computer / parts
by Blake Patterson 11 Jan '19

11 Jan '19

I have a 1000HX I recently picked up on Craigs and have a few upgrades waiting for parts to expand. Sadly, the case is cracked pretty notably and I'm looking to replace the case. But, what I am most looking for is the proprietary Tandy "PLUS" RAM expansion board for the EX or HX. Does anyone have anything along these lines? Thanks. bp -- Heisenberg may have slept here.

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Interesting auction, upstate NY
by Jameel Akari 11 Jan '19

11 Jan '19

Paging Ian Primus... There are a few interesting things in this auction that's near me. Starting around lot # 151 https://www.collarcityauctionsonline.com/servlet/List.do?auctionId=465&page… What happened to that Apple II looking machine? Today somebody pointed this beast out to me, further down: https://www.collarcityauctionsonline.com/servlet/List.do?auctionId=465&page… IBM 3420 tape unit. I feel like it was NYS DMV surplus. I'm not sure what I'd do with it, or even that I can move it, but... More seriously, I'm thinking about the Mac Portables and maybe the IBM portable lot; my wife has bid on some non-computer items already. So we're probably going to go pick *something* up. Let me know if you see something interesting and maybe we can make this happen. Anything more than a couple wagon-sized-car-loads will be challenging but not impossible. -- Jameel Akari

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Repair Day Next Sat 12th - What to expect?
by dillera＠gmail.com 11 Jan '19

11 Jan '19

Just a notice that I'll be bringing a bunch more stuff to give away or sell for $10 max at the repair day. Some Atari 8bit stuff, odds and Ends, Monitors (Commodore) and extra junk that is useful but that I will never use. Trades are accepted first before I give any away or sell - so if you have something interested and Unixy, bring it and lets see what we have. Anyone that can help me with fixes will also get first dibs on the give-away stuff. I'll also be bringing a SunU10 to try and get it to boot, An Apple IIFX to try and re-cap, and some PS to try and recap, assuming I get the caps. And a Tandy 600 that won't turn on. Looks like i'll be bringing my A2000 and try to copy some floppies for another member. I'm not that awesome w/ soldering, mostly due to lack of experience. I'm bringing my own soldering iron. This will be my first one- just want to check and make sure what is going to happen will happen - is the main room used like at Festivus? Assuming that ppl that come must bring everything they need for work, or are there things there from VCF to use? (Irons, monitors, network etc) ? Thanks! -andy

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Repair Day Next Sat 12th - What to expect?
by Blatboy 11 Jan '19

11 Jan '19

I have a simple little logic probe I can bring. :) - Walter ++++++++++++++++++++++ https://jwalterhawkes.com like to know where/when I'm playing? Click here <https://jwalterhawkes.com/contact> to sign up for my list, and let the babble begin. Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 09:59:50 -0500 From: Joseph Oprysko <joprysko1(a)gmail.com> To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Repair Day Next Sat 12th - What to expect? Message-ID: <CAPXecpDwun06RDZbJoPOu3cvO3ofC-OgRCSqsBYMbPi6T0xFEw(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Okay. Well the scope is an overkill replacement when just trying to do some quick probing. But the scope should be able to tell me what I need. Thanks On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 9:53 AM Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org wrote: > >> Is there an oscilloscope and a logic probe available for use? > > VCF has a scope. We don't have a logic probe.

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Looking for Tandy 2000 floppy bezel
by Richard Cini 11 Jan '19

11 Jan '19

All – I’m adding a second floppy drive (a non-vintage 3.5” drive) to my recently-restored T2K and in the process, I realize that it needs a different floppy bezel for two drives. Would anyone have a spare/extra that they could bring with them on Saturday to the workshop? If so, let me know. Thanks! Rich -- Rich Cini http://www.classiccmp.org/cini http://www.classiccmp.org/altair32

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Looking for a Kalok IDE drive
by Herb Johnson 11 Jan '19

11 Jan '19

"Why??? I’m looking for something to use with an IDE adapter on my Lisa, and [I] want it to sound interesting." It's a little amusing, to ask for hard drives based on acoustics. I'm an old person from a different time; I guess it's a thing now. (Yes, I know there's videos of stacks of drives playing tunes, thank you.) When drive stepping was noisier, it was a diagnostic, more convenient than a blinking "drive activity" LED. I'm guessing, the Lisa may not accept any ancient IDE hard-drive. I know that some really old IDE hard drives have "the wrong" IDE interface (8 bit data and not standard 16 bit data). Is there a list of IDE hard drive brand/models the Lisa could reasonably use? So - is there really a demand for "acoustic" IDE hard drives? Also, with a sound like a winding up jet engine as they start up? I can dig up some of these. No warranties. Herb -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net

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Not much snow
by Evan Koblentz 10 Jan '19

10 Jan '19

Our location is on the border between one inch and nothing at all: https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/weekend-snowstorm-to-bury-virgi… -- Evan Koblentz, executive director Vintage Computer Federation www.vcfed.org evan(a)vcfed.org (646) 546-9999

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Repair Day Next Sat 12th - What to expect?
by Joseph Oprysko 10 Jan '19

10 Jan '19

Is there an oscilloscope and a logic probe available for use? I want to attempt to repair the JrAccelerator board for one of my PCjr machines. I don't have schematics for it so everything is going to be by scoping, eyeballing, skill, and luck. Hopefully it's nothing major. I know the system works as I've pulled the board and put the 8088 back in and it started up just fine. I will also be bringing my Amiga 2000HD as Andy is bring me a copy of workbench. Hopefully 3.1 as a lot of the newer drivers run much more efficiently. On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 1:26 PM Laura S. Reinhard via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org wrote: > Generally around here it is wetter than snowy. Plan a route avoiding > flood prone areas and don’t drive at night or early morning when may have > black ice. Just this local’s advice. Obviously trust your instincts > On Jan 9, 2019, 12:55 PM -0500, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org>, wrote: > > The current forecast for the InfoAge area is Sunday it will be leas than > > one inch. Can’t say for other areas. > > > > It’s the risk I take in planning repair workshops in winter. The funny > > thing is that there hasn’t been any snow in this area so far this winter > > but lots and lots and lots of rain. > > > > In any case I hope that everyone can make it, but use your best judgment > as > > to whether it is safe or not. > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 11:16 AM Bob Flanders via vcf-midatlantic < > > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > > I was hoping to come, but it looks like snowstorm. *ugh* > > > > > > bob > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 7:44 AM Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic < > > > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > > > > Andy, if you remember VCF, the workshop is in the room at the bottom > of > > > > the ramp from the “reception hall” or main exhibit room, with the big > > > > concrete floor where my Apple display was setup in the middle. Right > by > > > the > > > > double doors to outside where we all unloaded our stuff to setup for > VCF > > > > > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > On Jan 6, 2019, at 10:13 PM, Evan via vcf-midatlantic < > > > > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not that awesome w/ soldering, mostly due to lack of > experience. > > > > I'm > > > > > > > bringing my own soldering iron. > > > > > > There are plenty of members to help you with that at the > workshop. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This will be my first one- just want to check and make sure > what is > > > > going > > > > > > > to happen will happen - is the main room used like at Festivus? > > > > Assuming > > > > > > > that ppl that come must bring everything they need for work, > or are > > > > there > > > > > > > things there from VCF to use? (Irons, monitors, network etc) ? > > > > > > No it will be in the "main" building called 9032-A. I will send > out a > > > > > > reminder with all the info soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy: in time you will learn your way around the campus and the > zany > > > > building number scheme installed here by the Army in 1941. :) > > > > > > > > > > VCF has some tools available to borrow (including a nice > desoldering > > > > station) but mostly people bring their own. > > > > > > > > > > As you can see here on the list, and as you learned in person at > > > > Festivus, we're all happy to share/help. That is what makes the group > > > > awesome! > > > > > > > > > > Unlike at VCF East (and to a lesser degree Festivus) -- when we're > > > > fairly specific about details -- the workshops are pretty much show > up, > > > > pick a table, and have at it. > > > > > > > > > > Jeff B. is in charge of the workshop logistics. The email he sends > will > > > > cover the hours, event fee, where to park, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ========================================= > > Jeff Brace > > Vice President > > Vintage Computer Federation >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] 1990s Unix Workstation Sub-Group
by Joseph Oprysko 10 Jan '19

10 Jan '19

I've had a bit of Unix Experience. I had a chance to get a number of Octanes and Indigos with 20"+ sized screens and likely real time video capture/editing cards. They were the editing workstations for Fox. But at the time I had no place to put them. On Mon, Jan 7, 2019, 3:46 PM m simons via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org wrote: > Yes, I'm interested in this sort of thing. SGI machines and IRIX are > beautiful. X windows on other *nix'es. Heck, I've got an enclosed server > rack and numerous servers just looking for a home in order to turn them > into machines to play around with and host interesting projects. > > --MS > On Sunday, January 6, 2019, 9:01:01 AM EST, Christian Liendo via > vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > + 1 > I was never into the whole chat thing. > > I use slack at work, thats more then enough. > > > On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 10:31 AM J. Alexander Jacocks via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > However, I'm not a discord/slack/etc. fan. I propose keeping discussion > on > > this list, or on the existing VCFed message board. I agree with Ethan > and > > Mike: no more new comms methods. They just serve to scatter information. > > Now, an official VCFed wiki, on the other hand, would be quite welcome, > and > > would be useful to fans of all vintage software and hardware. > > > > > >

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Summer Repair Workshop Schedule 2019
by Jeffrey Brace 10 Jan '19

10 Jan '19

I’m contemplating the schedule for summer workshops. I think I may do a June and August while skipping July. Many people are on vacation or busy during summer months. The summer workshops tend to be lower attendance. Anyone have any thoughts or comments? -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation

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VCF East 2019 keynote suggestions?
by Herb Johnson 09 Jan '19

09 Jan '19

> I just had lunch with an ex colleague named Jeff Witt that worked in early IC design > over the timeframe of MOS, RCA (1802) , and even Solid State Scientific of Montgomeryville. > But there is some fertile ground around AMI to cultivate a speakers from in general, of this sort. I'm trying hard to avoid a lecture. So I'll just say this. Persons from the timeframe Doug mentions, the 1970's, are getting very old. Time is running out, to invite them at all to VCF events - keynote, guest, workshop, whatever. I suggest engaging with them, now and for the next few years, to attend. Their availability won't be an option, before long. Suggestions were asked for: that's my suggestion and response to some other suggestions. End of lecture. Herb Johnson Old person -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT info

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Repair Day Next Sat 12th - What to expect?
by Bob Flanders 09 Jan '19

09 Jan '19

I was hoping to come, but it looks like snowstorm. *ugh* bob On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 7:44 AM Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Andy, if you remember VCF, the workshop is in the room at the bottom of > the ramp from the “reception hall” or main exhibit room, with the big > concrete floor where my Apple display was setup in the middle. Right by the > double doors to outside where we all unloaded our stuff to setup for VCF > > Tony > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 6, 2019, at 10:13 PM, Evan via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > > >>> I'm not that awesome w/ soldering, mostly due to lack of experience. > I'm > >>> bringing my own soldering iron. > >> There are plenty of members to help you with that at the workshop. > >> > >>> This will be my first one- just want to check and make sure what is > going > >>> to happen will happen - is the main room used like at Festivus? > Assuming > >>> that ppl that come must bring everything they need for work, or are > there > >>> things there from VCF to use? (Irons, monitors, network etc) ? > >> No it will be in the "main" building called 9032-A. I will send out a > >> reminder with all the info soon. > > > > > > Andy: in time you will learn your way around the campus and the zany > building number scheme installed here by the Army in 1941. :) > > > > VCF has some tools available to borrow (including a nice desoldering > station) but mostly people bring their own. > > > > As you can see here on the list, and as you learned in person at > Festivus, we're all happy to share/help. That is what makes the group > awesome! > > > > Unlike at VCF East (and to a lesser degree Festivus) -- when we're > fairly specific about details -- the workshops are pretty much show up, > pick a table, and have at it. > > > > Jeff B. is in charge of the workshop logistics. The email he sends will > cover the hours, event fee, where to park, etc. > > > > > > > >

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