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FS: Ohio Scientific 495 Prototype Board
by Systems Glitch 03 Mar '16

03 Mar '16

link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/272155352950 I've listed one of the reproduction OSI 495 boards on eBay, starting bid of $0.99. I want to see what kind of interest is out there before I commit to a bigger run of these, since I already have a fair bit of cash tied up in them. If there's interest, I'll do a bigger run and figure out a fixed price on them. Thanks, Jonathan

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Our new museum neighbors
by Evan Koblentz 03 Mar '16

03 Mar '16

Our main neighbors in the new museum will be the Garden State Central Model Railroad Club. They are posting a build diary of their layout at http://gardenstatecentral.com. They're very friendly people and they understand what VCF is all about. They personally did a large amount of work on the space we're occupying along with the classroom area down the hall. (They have permission from InfoAge to put mobile exhibits in that room, and they'll move the exhibits out when we or any other group needs the room for events.) There are two other organizations in the building. NJARC has a storage room there (I've never seen inside, so I don't know how big/small it is), and (it appears) there is some kind of surfing exhibit being built. I don't personally know what surfing has to do with historic electronic technology, nor do I know the status of that group's exhibit -- they moved some things into their room a few years ago and it seems unchanged since then. Anyway, InfoAge has them as a member organization, so we wish them well.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Pick 34)-ish
by whitneys 03 Mar '16

03 Mar '16

My two cents' worth. Flying Eagle cents, mind you. The History Micro-Computer Predecessors: The Terminal & The Calculator Datapoint 2200 aut al. HP-85 eg. The Kit Scelbi-8H Mark-8 The Altair/The S-100 aka Attack of the Clones MITS Altair 8800 IMSAI 8080 The Single Board Computer Apple 1 Other SBC/Trainer Heathkit Heathkit H-8 H89/Z-100 You Oughtta be in Cases/The '77 Trinity Processor Tech SOL-20 Apple II The '77 Trinity/Follow-On TRS-80 Model 1 CoCo or other TRS The '77 Trinity/Follow-On Commodore PET VIC-20/C64/C128 (space avail.) The '77 Trinity/Return of the Clones Apple II (see above) Franklin Clone Atari! aka Is My Game Console a Computer? Atari 800 ? The PC/Revenge of the Clones IBM 5150 PC Compaq Portable The PCjr/Son of the Clones PC Jr. Tandy 1000 Now GUIer than ever Apple Lisa Apple Mac 128K/GEOS/GEM/HP NewWave/Windows 1-3 etc. The Shape of Things to Come (see also You Oughtta be in Cases) The Suitcase Portable IBM 5100 Osborne The Pocket/Handheld Computers Tandy Model 100 eg. Epson HX-20 eg. Lap-Top Computers Grid Compass Data General One eg. Somehow address foreign developments, which ran in parallel, but dominated in Europe & Japan respectively International MSX BLs BBC Master/Sinclair ZX/Amstrad/non-BBC Acorn Toyotas Hitachi MB/Fujitsu FM/NEC PC-88/NEC PC-98(APC III) also Sony, Sharp systems Citroens Thomson/Oric The Finale The Last Gasp of the Independents Commodore Amiga/Atari ST/Acorn Archimedes/Sharp X68000/Fujitsu FM Towns/NeXT/Sinclair QL Day of the Clones aka Clone World /The Survivor aka Once and Future King The Compaq '386 Late model Mac Some Notes: This list is not intended to strictly reflect VCFed possession (I'm not sure what's in there), but also my estimation of significance to the story of Microcomputer history. I probably missed some things too. Especially kits, foreign systems, and foreign kit systems. I identified some themes, already implied by Evans' and others' choices. Mabye they'd make OK info card headings. Word processor unit removed, as addressing that market should reflect some diversity of the systems (Wang, Vydec, Sony etc). Also needs more space. Have to trim anything that was merely sentimental, popular, or cool, or just available in collection for: Technical Innovation, Market Significance, and Historical Narrative. For instance the Franklin has to go in-- it made ROM copyrightable, if not on purpose. Compaq's 386, beating IBM to the punch, signified more than any other system that the Clones had bested IBM, and would come to dominate. I think the PCjr line can go, but I wanted to make another silly sequel reference. I believe first Fujitsu then the PC-88 were the real dominant market players in Japan; BBC Master was the Apple II of England (fondly remembered school computer), ZX and MSX the real international players, France's never went EU wide. That's five international picks of what I feel should be six or eight. Six would add up to 40 systems total picked above, which it seems is the 20-rack goal, including both shelf levels. This eludes the history of the midrange/workstation, which gets micro-ed on the inside and out beginning around 1981. I left two gaps, in as much as I used the Apple II twice and used one Atari only. Systems separated by slashes meant to indicate either/or, as space dictates. I tried to be as ruthless as possible-- I think no platform got more than 2 machines. Despite my predilection for macs, I think you can tell the story with just one (and the LISA) and not even a significant one (the 128k). The early interface is too alike the LISA's to demonstrate/differentiate well to the layman. I confess a soft spot for the Archimedes as we're all running way more ARMs than any other processor these days. Kudos to anyone who appreciates my stupid Movie/Car refs/Old-Fashioned Hyphen-ization. I hope I didn't do anything improper with the line breaks. --

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Pick 34)-ish
by Evan Koblentz 03 Mar '16

03 Mar '16

Everyone, Good news / bad news about our new museum space. The good news is, as indicated earlier tonight, we found creative ways to make more space for mainframes and minicomputers. :) We also found a way to ** probably ** include the Cray and StorageTek tape robot in the "modern history" exhibit (after all, the computing power and mass storage in your smartphones is rather mind-boggling!) The bad news is, all of the good news means somewhat less space for microcomputers. Here is the 24/48 list from a couple of weeks ago: 1. Scelbi-8H ... Above it: Mark-8 2. IBM 5100 ... Above it: HP-85B 3. MITS Altair 8800 ... Above it: IMSAI 8080 4. SWTPc 6800 ... Above it: ??? 5. Processor Tech SOL-20 ... Above it: 6. TDL Xitan ... Above it: 7. Apple 1 ... Above it: Other SBC 8. Apple 2 ... Above it: //e 9. Commodore PET 2001 ... Above it: ??? 10. TRS-80 Model 1 ... Above it: CoCo 11. Atari 800 ... Above it: 400, ST 12. Heathkit H-89 ... Above it: Zenith Z-100 13. Xerox 860 ... Above it: ??? 14. Sinclair ZX-80, ZX-81, Timex 1000 ... Above it: Amstrad 15. TI-99/4A ... Above it: OSI Challenger 4P 16. IBM 5150 PC ... Above it: PC Jr. 17. Osborne ... Above it: Compaq Portable 18. Commodore 64 ... Above it: VIC-20, 128 19. Apple Lisa ... Above it: Epson QX-10 20. Tandy Model 100, DG One ... Above it: Epson HX-20 (etc.) 21. NEC APC ... Above it: Tandy Model 4 22. Apple Mac 128K ... Above it: Mac Portable 23. Commodore Amiga ... Above it: Sony SMC-70 24. PC clone ... Above it: ??? This does NOT count the pre-kit systems (Dudley PDP-8, etc.) nor the teletype/terminals. It also doesn't count the Computer-of-the-Month exhibit. All of those are already placed in the layout. Here is my shot at reducing it to 17/34. There were some difficult decisions to make! 1. Scelbi-8H ... Above it: Mark-8 2. IBM 5100 ... Above it: HP-85B 3. MITS Altair 8800 ... Above it: IMSAI 8080 4. Processor Tech SOL-20 ... Above it: TDL Xitan 5. Apple 1 ... Above it: KIM-1 6. Apple 2 ... Above it: Apple /// and/or GS 7. Commodore PET 2001 / Atari 800 8. TRS-80 Model 1 ... Above it: Heathkit H-89 9. Xerox 860 ... Above it: NEC APC 10. Sinclair ZX-80 ... Above it: TI-99/4A 11. IBM 5150 PC ... Above it: PC Jr. 12. Osborne ... Above it: Tandy Model 100, DG One 13. Commodore 64 ... Above it: VIC-20 and/or, 128 14. Apple Lisa ... Above it: Epson QX-10 15. Apple Mac 128K ... Above it: Mac Portable 16. Commodore Amiga ... Above it: Sony SMC-70 17. PC clone ... Above it: (Sun 1? Not sure if we have one...) Remember, everything that doesn't make the cut will automatically go into the Computer-of-the-Month rotation. That list (far from comprehensive) includes: NeXT Station Apple //c, ///, IIgs Pockets/Handhelds Franklin/Laser Cromemco Z2H Cromemco System Three Northstar Horizon SWTPc 6800 Tandy CoCo TRS-80 (later models) Atari 400, ST, etc. Sinclair ZX-81, Timex Sinclair 1000, Amstrad PPC 640 OSI Challenger 4P Compaq Portable Epson QX-10 NEC APC Various other laptops/portables "And many more....."

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] SIX WEEKS to VCF East exhibit DEADLINE - April 1st
by VAXman＠tmesis.org 03 Mar '16

03 Mar '16

Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic writes: >There are only SIX weeks until the VCF East exhibit registration >deadline. > >They're going to go very fast. > >Register your exhibits now. > >Not doing so makes life extremely difficult for us. We waste a lot of >time chasing down people who we know usually exhibit, and we delay >ordering the table rental, arranging the layout, and other things. > >Reg link: > >http://www.vcfed.org/registration/east_exhibitor_register-online.php FYI, I think you should configure the server to NOT display directory content unless it's really necessary. See: http://www.vcfed.org/registration/ if you don't understand what I'm referring to.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] OT: Possible Items for IXR
by tom.hornberger＠verizon.net 02 Mar '16

02 Mar '16

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Windows 3.11 Networking
by william degnan 02 Mar '16

02 Mar '16

> > Anyway, back to your work Bill, how long did it take you to set up TCP/IP within 3.11, and how hard was it locating suitable drivers .. Not hard to find drivers. I had to re-learn some Windows 3.11 networking as it had been a long time since I last did anything with it, but you can read my post on vcfed.org forum and/or my website that I started and was done in 24 hours w/ in spare moments. I uploaded all the drivers and software associated with the Dell 486 system used... video, audio, network, joystick, MOBO bios to my website should anyone read my post, have same hardware, and want the drivers. http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=626 Bill

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Windows 3.11 Networking
by william degnan 02 Mar '16

02 Mar '16

Anyone using Windows 3.11 to browse the Internet or do mail? Today I visited vcfed.org. It's close to usable believe it or not using Netscape 2.0 via Win 3.11, if you turn off javascript. Now you know. FYI - My site, vintagecomputer.net is compatible with Netscape 2.0 and early Mosaic versions if you're looking for another site to search. It looks just like 1994 there. Bill -- @ BillDeg: Web: vintagecomputer.net Twitter: @billdeg <https://twitter.com/billdeg> Youtube: @billdeg <https://www.youtube.com/user/billdeg> Unauthorized Bio <http://www.vintagecomputer.net/readme.cfm>

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OT: Possible Items for IXR
by tom.hornberger＠verizon.net 02 Mar '16

02 Mar '16

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Workshop after-action report (IBM 029)
by whitneys 01 Mar '16

01 Mar '16

On a side note I'd like to thank everyone who welcomed me, and helped at my first workshop. Special thanks to Ian. To everyone else on the list, Hi! I'm new here. Whitney -- For external use only. If taken internally, consult a technician.

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Workshop after-action report (IBM 029)
by Mike Loewen 01 Mar '16

01 Mar '16

For the 2/27 - 2/28 workshop, I did some more work on the museum's IBM model 29 keypunch. When I first powered it up, it didn't do much of anything except run the motor. It gradually "warmed up" and started punching, but was obviously in need of lubrication. I cleaned and lubricated many maintenance points, which quieted down the machine and made its operation much smoother. I used Tech Rubber Roller Restorer to clean up the rubber feed rollers. I replaced my home-made arc suppression board with a spare from the warehouse. I also replaced the punch clutch pulley belt, which was ready to fall apart, and substituted a much better looking program drum. I adjusted the two pressure rail microswitches in the card bed, and cleaned and lubed the keyboard to fix some sticking keys. During the process, the machine developed another fault: each time a card would "register" at the punch station, it would automatically be "released" and sent to the read station. After several hours of troubleshooting, I discovered a broken wire leading to the escapement magnet assembly. It had been hanging on by a thread, causing erratic operation, and eventually completely broke away from the spade lug. I soldered it back on, and the machine was again punching. The very last thing I checked was the function of the sensing pins in the read station, by trying to duplicate a card. Not all card rows were consistently read, but improved with repetition. Unfortunately, I ran out of time at that point. I had lubed the sensing pins, but they need another round of cleaning/lubrication. At this point, the keypunch is useable for demonstrations in the museum room. The print mechanism still needs work, and doesn't print all of the characters correctly. Cleaning and aligning the print unit will be a major project. I multi-punched a VCF EAST 2016 card and left it on the punch. Oh yeah: I also pushed an IBM printer for a 1/4 mile. :-) Mike Loewen mloewen(a)cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Should the new museum have a name?
by tom.hornberger＠verizon.net 01 Mar '16

01 Mar '16

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OT: dual booting W7/Linux
by Evan Koblentz 01 Mar '16

01 Mar '16

I'm trying to shrink the Windows 7 partition on our new office computer in order to make a second partition for Linux. Windows' disk management partitioning tool is not working. It only let me shrink the partition by 8GB. Google indicates the reason is because of some un-movable files near the end of the partition. Defragging didn't help. I tried a few third-party partitioning tools. They didn't work either. How do I proceed?

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Gift letters for the Museum furniture donations
by Corey Cohen 01 Mar '16

01 Mar '16

To everyone who donated to the museum for our new furniture this year. I was having some email problems with all the domain DNS changes and didn't hit send on the gift letters for 2016. I have not forgotten you and also expect that starting January 2017 I will be generating a donation summary for each benefactor anyway and sending it out annually. I know that makes life easier since you will have all your donations in one place in one PDF. As far as I am aware I did get all the gift letters out for 2015. If I missed one, please contact me off list at corey(a)vcfed.org Keep an eye in your emails later this week for a PDF of the donation letters since January 1st 2016. Sorry for any delays or confusion, Thanks, Corey corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ

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LINC pioneer Wesley Clark passes
by Herb Johnson 01 Mar '16

01 Mar '16

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/business/wesley-a-clark-made-computing-pe… As an owner of a piece of a LINC, I've corresponded with the LINC engineers, who to this day work on or support the remaining LINCs in various collections. It's sad to hear that Wesley Clark passed away recently at 88. The NYT article notes his involvement with Whirlwind and SAGE and other notable computers of the 1950's. He will be missed. Herb Johnson retrotechnology.com -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preservation of 1970's computing email: hjohnson AAT retrotechnology DOTT com alternate: herbjohnson ATT retrotechnology DOTT info

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Should the new museum have a name?
by Bob Aviles 29 Feb '16

29 Feb '16

Hi, I was thinking the same thing, people will think it just American systems. Bobby On Sunday, February 28, 2016 6:46 AM, Ben Greenfield via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: With America in the name would we reject foreign computers? Could we exhibit Nixdorf's? On Feb 27, 2016, at 10:37 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: >>> Museum of American Computer Heritage > > Museum or American Retro Computer Heritage.... we could call it MARCH. > > Oh, wait....

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Next workshop... or not?
by Evan Koblentz 29 Feb '16

29 Feb '16

Guys, the next workshop is supposed to be two weeks from now. Other weekends in March are unavailable or too close to VCF East. Would anybody attend in two weeks from now or should we cancel it?

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New museum setup report
by Evan Koblentz 29 Feb '16

29 Feb '16

Changed the subject line because the old museum move report is complete. :) - Remember when we discussed "pick 25" for the microcomputer exhibit? Turns out only 20(ish) will fit. It was too cramped with 25 shelving units. I will start a separate thread (later tonight) about which systems to not (initially) display. - The five units that won't fit in the micro exhibit will not go to waste. We discovered the many of the parts can be reconfigured for a perfect fit in the workshop/classroom corner. Score! - Jeff J. and I finished assembing all but one shelving unit (for which we need a part that's arriving this week.) - Jeff J. and I also found a great way to fit the Univac exhibit without making the aisles too claustrophobic. We might even be able to fit more of the Univac than planned! We also transferred one of the Univac i/o consoles (the only remotely "small" component) onto a stronger and better-sized pallet to make it uniform with the other components. Another thing we got done is we found a good way to cover the front of the pallets that will be easy, basically free, and look good. - Next museum build day is probably next Sunday. We'll finalize it during the week.

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Museum move is DONE!
by Evan Koblentz 27 Feb '16

27 Feb '16

We devoted 10am-5pm today to finishing the move out of our old museum space. InfoAge's forklift, Jon C.'s operater+safety skills, and a whole team of VCF nerds-turned-schleppers made the job easy. Now we're back in conventional workshop mode. :)

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Museum move is DONE!
by Evan Koblentz 27 Feb '16

27 Feb '16

We devoted 10am-5pm today to finishing the move out of our old museum space. InfoAge's forklift, Jon C.'s operater+safety skills, and a whole team of VCF nerds-turned-schleppers made the job easy. Now we're back in conventional workshop mode. :)

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Innovation Nation with Mo Rocca - Simon Computer at end
by william degnan 27 Feb '16

27 Feb '16

Hey all...my photo of the Simon analog computer (1950) is used on the television show Innovation Nation with Mo Rocca if you're up for a trivia question about computer history. The first air date is today (it's on now) Feb 27th. -- @ BillDeg: Web: vintagecomputer.net Twitter: @billdeg <https://twitter.com/billdeg> Youtube: @billdeg <https://www.youtube.com/user/billdeg> Unauthorized Bio <http://www.vintagecomputer.net/readme.cfm>

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Workshop Feb. 27-28: Who's going?
by Evan Koblentz 27 Feb '16

27 Feb '16

Jeff B. is busy with some stuff, so I'm arranging the next workshop (Feb. 27-28). As already stated, the first half of Saturday will be devoted to moving the big stuff out of our largest old museum room. The sooner we finish, the sooner the workshop can happen as normal. :) Who's going? 1. Evan 2. (Glitch aka forklift operator)

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Stats from the old list
by Evan Koblentz 26 Feb '16

26 Feb '16

Pre-Federation, the old group's Yahoo discussion list operated from January 2005 to December 2015. The project I mentioned last night (technically early this morning) was to analyze the statistical post trends, just for fun. :) Jonathan G. was the first to raise his hand. He replied with two things: 1. The data at http://www.vcfed.org/evan/legacy_list_stats.xlsx 2. A comment that, "You can clearly see the burst in mails around VCF East each year in the graphs." Jonathan, I'm not sure if you knew this, but the VCF East wasn't always in springtime like it is now. We started with VCF East 3 (2006) and skipped 2010/2013. The schedule was as follows: 2006 - East 3.0 - May 2007 - East 4.0 - June 2008 - East 5.0 - September 2009 - East 6.0 - September 2011 - East 7.0 - May 2012 - East 8.0 - May 2014 - East 9.1 - April 2015 - East "X" - April

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The Hunt for the Government's oldest computer
by Christian Liendo 26 Feb '16

26 Feb '16

I thought this was kind of cool. https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2016/feb/24/hunt-governments-oldest-…

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InfoAge needs a long-ish VGA cable
by Evan Koblentz 26 Feb '16

26 Feb '16

Anyone who's attending the workshop this weekend: InfoAge needs a long-ish VGA cable. No specific length, just maybe something longer than the usual few feet. Can somebody please bring one?

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More surplus stuff from my stockpile
by William Dudley 26 Feb '16

26 Feb '16

All integrated circuits this time. All DIP: 1 AMI S6551 P, plastic, date 8133 4 Intel 8274, ceramic 3 Intel 8255, plastic, date '81 1 Intel 8251, ceramic 1 Intel P8251A, plastic 1 Intersil ICL7109CPL, plastic, date 7907 2 Intersil ICL7218AIJI, ceramic, date 7919 3 MOS Technology MPS6502, plastic, various dates '79 and '80 1 MOS Technology MPS6522, plastic, date 3879 1 Mostek MK3880N-4 (Z80-CPU), plastic, date 8220 1 Motorola MC6847P, plastic, date 7830 2 Motorola MC6860P, plastic, date 7829 and 8149 1 RCA COP 1801 CUD, ceramic, date 7546 this and next are a pair 1 RCA COP 1801 CRD, ceramic, date 7546 both in (partial) original packaging 1 Rockwell R6522-33, plastic, date 8209 2 S? 2513N (character gen?), plastic 2 SMC FDC1797, plastic 1 SMC COM8017, plastic, date 7921 1 SMC KR2376-ST, plastic, date 8001 1 Synertec SY6502, plastic, date 8301 4 Zilog Z80-PIO, ceramic, date 7714 1 Zilog Z80A PIO, plastic, date 8229 1 Zilog Z80B CPU, plastic, date 8121 1 Zilog Z80A DMA, plastic, date either 8410 or 8001 4 Zilog Z80A DART, plastic, date 8408 3 Zilog Z80A CTC, plastic, date 8404 I'm perfectly fine with doling these out as onsies and twosies, so that the largest number of you can complete projects or repairs. Please reply to the list so you can discuss who gets what in public. I hate having to be the arbitrator, and it's too much like work to put this up on Ebay. Bill Dudley

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Fun math project
by Evan Koblentz 26 Feb '16

26 Feb '16

Who reeeeeeaaaalllllly enjoys statistics and has the time to do a little project for us? First person to answer affirmatively gets the top-secret assignment and all the glory. :)

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QI Series M, episode 16, Misconceptions...
by Bill Sudbrink 26 Feb '16

26 Feb '16

To start with, I guess I should warn those who are not familiar with this program that the humor is not for everyone. It goes from very interesting and intellectual (the title "QI" stands for Quite Interesting) to the scatological and rather crass. Anyway, that said, in the episode referenced in the title, the host, Stephen Fry, explains Moore's Law. As he does so, he shows a number of vintage computer items borrowed from Bletchley Park. The episode is the latest one (aired last week I think) and is available on YouTube. Bill S.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Should the new museum have a name?
by Alexander 25 Feb '16

25 Feb '16

How about VCF Mid-Atlantic Display Because we're all MAD here! *SID laughter* -Alexander 'Z' Pierson Sent from my pocket telephone. Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: >I'm for it, you will probably get more donations. So far that one was >the best of the bunch > > > >On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Bill Sudbrink via vcf-midatlantic ><vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: >> I thought we were going for funny here... >> That's just sick. >> >> Bill S. >>

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Should the new museum have a name?
by Christian Liendo 25 Feb '16

25 Feb '16

I'm for it, you will probably get more donations. So far that one was the best of the bunch On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Bill Sudbrink via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: > I thought we were going for funny here... > That's just sick. > > Bill S. >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Should the new museum have a name?
by william degnan 25 Feb '16

25 Feb '16

VCF Computer Museum and Metal Recycling On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Bill Sudbrink via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: > > VCF Computer Museum (Licensed For Public Dancing) > > Bill S. > > -- @ BillDeg: Web: vintagecomputer.net Twitter: @billdeg <https://twitter.com/billdeg> Youtube: @billdeg <https://www.youtube.com/user/billdeg> Unauthorized Bio <http://www.vintagecomputer.net/readme.cfm>

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Should the new museum have a name?
by tom.hornberger＠verizon.net 25 Feb '16

25 Feb '16

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Anachronism! Commodore 64 in 1975!
by Jeffrey Brace 25 Feb '16

25 Feb '16

My vintage computer nerdiness kicking in. I was watching DC Legends Of Tomorrow Season 1 Episode 3 at 9:34. And they are in 1975. Rip Hunter is breaking in the bank's computers so my nerdy-sense kicks in to see which kind of computer they using in 1975. The monitor they are using is a Commodore 1802 monitor and which computer is Rip Hunter typing on? A commodore 64! And as we all know it debuted in 1982. So this show has an anachronism! Guess Commodore 64s are fairly easy to obtain as opposed to finding something authentic for 1975.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Should the new museum have a name?
by VAXman＠tmesis.org 25 Feb '16

25 Feb '16

$ SET HUMOR/STATE=ON/ADJECTIVE=GOOD How about the Shore Historical Information Technology museum. It worked for years for the Stevens Hoboken Institute of Technology! $ SET HUMOR/STATE=OFF

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OT: TEST
by Jeffrey Brace 25 Feb '16

25 Feb '16

I sent a message to the list and it never appeared even 24 hours later.

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More surplus stuff from my stockpile
by William F. Dudley Jr. 25 Feb '16

25 Feb '16

All integrated circuits this time. All DIP: 1 AMI S6551 P, plastic, date 8133 4 Intel 8274, ceramic 3 Intel 8255, plastic, date '81 1 Intel 8251, ceramic 1 Intel P8251A, plastic 1 Intersil ICL7109CPL, plastic, date 7907 2 Intersil ICL7218AIJI, ceramic, date 7919 3 MOS Technology MPS6502, plastic, various dates '79 and '80 1 MOS Technology MPS6522, plastic, date 3879 1 Mostek MK3880N-4 (Z80-CPU), plastic, date 8220 1 Motorola MC6847P, plastic, date 7830 2 Motorola MC6860P, plastic, date 7829 and 8149 1 RCA COP 1801 CUD, ceramic, date 7546this and next are a pair 1 RCA COP 1801 CRD, ceramic, date 7546 both in (partial) original packaging 1 Rockwell R6522-33, plastic, date 8209 2 S? 2513N (character gen?), plastic 2 SMC FDC1797, plastic 1 SMC COM8017, plastic, date 7921 1 SMC KR2376-ST, plastic, date 8001 1 Synertec SY6502, plastic, date 8301 4 Zilog Z80-PIO, ceramic, date 7714 1 Zilog Z80A PIO, plastic, date 8229 1 Zilog Z80B CPU, plastic, date 8121 1 Zilog Z80A DMA, plastic, date either 8410 or 8001 4 Zilog Z80A DART, plastic, date 8408 3 Zilog Z80A CTC, plastic, date 8404 I'm perfectly fine with doling these out as onsies and twosies, so that the largest number of you can complete projects or repairs. Please reply to the list so you can discuss who gets what in public. I hate having to be the arbitrator, and it's too much like work to put this up on Ebay. Bill Dudley Jackson, NJ

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OT: Infoage lounge floor
by Evan Koblentz 25 Feb '16

25 Feb '16

For everyone who asked about the lounge floor at InfoAge: our VP Jeff Brace represented us at the IA group meeting tonight. He found out that only part of the original Marconi floor is being replaced because of rotting. They're hoping to save the original flooring where possible, and they might sell parts of the in-between areas, but nothing is decided. If/when they announce a decision, then we'll share it here.

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can anyone send a test email to my MicroVAX 3100
by william degnan 24 Feb '16

24 Feb '16

Doing some testing of my Microvax 3100. Specifically MultiNet V4.1 Rev A, MicroVAX 3100, VAX/VMS V5.5-2 Photo http://vintagecomputer.net/digital/MicroVAX-3100/DEC_MicroVAX-3100_system.j… If anyone cares to send an email to: system(a)microvax3100.vintagecomputer.net I am sure someone will reply from the other end (while the machine is still turned on this afternoon, 2/24/16) Bill -- @ BillDeg: Web: vintagecomputer.net Twitter: @billdeg <https://twitter.com/billdeg> Youtube: @billdeg <https://www.youtube.com/user/billdeg> Unauthorized Bio <http://www.vintagecomputer.net/readme.cfm>

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Anyone with size L vcf hoodie prefer a M?
by Evan Koblentz 24 Feb '16

24 Feb '16

Someone emailed me and said: "I made a mistake in asking for a medium. It's too tight on me, even though I've lost a lot of weight. Would it be possible to get another one in large?" I told that person we don't have any more and we're not ordering a batch anytime soon, but maybe someone who has a large wants to trade. Let me know and I'll connect you to the other person.

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Anachronism! - Commodore 64 in 1975 on DC legends of tomorrow
by Jeffrey Brace 24 Feb '16

24 Feb '16

My vintage computer nerdiness kicking in. I was watching DC Legends Of Tomorrow Season 1 Episode 3. And they are in 1975. Rip Hunter is breaking in the bank's computers so my nerdy-sense kicks in to see which kind of computer they using in 1975. From the back the monitor looks 90's-ish from the front maybe a Commodore 1802 monitor and which computer is Rip Hunter typing on? A commodore 64! And as we all know it debuted in 1982. So this show has an anachronism! Guess Commodore 64s are fairly easy to obtain as opposed to finding something authentic for that era.

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Vintage stuff I should get rid of
by William Dudley 23 Feb '16

23 Feb '16

I've been a pack rat for decades, and lately I've been stumbling upon stuff which was "junk" 20 years ago but is now probably "collectible". I thought I'd post a few examples here to gauge interest. If something is appropriate for the museum, or somebody wants something for their private collection, let me know. Here are the first few things I've found, that I should have thrown out decades ago: 1. 5 Intel 1702A-2 EPROMS. These are in ceramic/gold packages (with window). Each holds a grand total of 256 bytes of storage. 2. A Zenith Z-89 terminal. Like the Heath/Zenith all in one computer, but without the computer part -- just the CRT terminal in an over-wide package. 3. Books (all are 8" x 5 1/4" paperback) digital pdp-8/a minicomputer handbook 1976-77 digital introduction to programming 1970 digital small computer handbook 1973 digital introduction to minicomputer networks (copyright 1974) 4. IBM 8514 Monitor Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Workshop Feb. 27-28: Who's going?
by Todd George 23 Feb '16

23 Feb '16

> > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:27:29 -0500 > From: Evan Koblentz <evan(a)snarc.net> > Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] Workshop Feb. 27-28: Who's going? > > Updated attendance list for next weekend: > > 1. Evan > 2. (Glitch aka forklift operator) > 3. Mike Loewen (sidewalk supervisor) > 4. Jeff Galinat > 5. Tony (Saturday) > 6. Jeff Jonas > *** 7. Todd *** > 8. Jeff Brace Oh suuuure... I see how it is. Just put other people's names on the list... You were afraid we'd start nonsensical marginally computer-related numbering again, weren't you? :) -Todd

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OSI 495 Protoboards are in!
by Systems Glitch 23 Feb '16

23 Feb '16

They're in! One slight mistake in the Gerber files, since fixed, but inconsequential: http://imgur.com/a/cUg8t Looks pretty good to me! The board is much stiffer than the original OSI 495 it's based off of, which is a good thing. I'll bring them to the workshop this weekend if anyone wants to take a look. Thanks, Jonathan

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OT: Help identifying Motorola chip
by Kelly Leavitt 22 Feb '16

22 Feb '16

Was handed a bag with about fifty 48 pin ceramic DIP Motorola chips. Date codes from 84 to 87. I think they may be house numbered 68008s but am not sure. The only part number that is consistent on all the chips are 50238 (with either a -01 or -05 suffix). Anyone have any thoughts on where to trace these down? Was also handed a fairly large bag of Z80 bits. Including Z80A, Z80B and a handful of Z80SIO Thanks, Kelly

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OT: Test
by Chris Fala 22 Feb '16

22 Feb '16

Just checking. Thanks. Chris

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VCF East ticketing are online
by Evan Koblentz 21 Feb '16

21 Feb '16

You can buy VCF East tickets here: http://vcfed.org/wp/festivals/vintage-computer-festival-east/tickets/ IMPORTANT: - Exhibitors don't need tickets for Saturday/Sunday - Friday teachers don't need tickets for that day - Bring your kids! Free admission for 17 and younger

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Cool! InfoAge lounge restoration
by Evan Koblentz 21 Feb '16

21 Feb '16

The lounge room in the main InfoAge building (room where we put VCF East consignment) has modern carpeting. Beneath that is 1980s tile. Beneath that is 1940s masonite. Beneath that is the original 1912 oak. InfoAge got a donation to remove the carpet, tile, and masonite, and replace the original oak with a new duplicate. Soon the floor will look to us the same way it looked to Marconi.

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Cool! InfoAge lounge restoration
by Herb Johnson 21 Feb '16

21 Feb '16

> ... and replace the original oak with a new duplicate... As a homeowner with solid-oak flooring, why did/does Infoage want to replace 100-year-old oak? And if they do, where's the dumpster with the removed oak? ;) Herb -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net

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Floppy Days Episode 52 on the TI-99
by Randall Kindig 21 Feb '16

21 Feb '16

Floppy Days Episode 52 - TI-99 Software/Books/Magazines with Chris Schneider and Rich Polivka http://floppydays.libsyn.com/floppy-days-52-ti99-softwarebooksmagazines-wit… <http://floppydays.libsyn.com/floppy-days-52-ti99-softwarebooksmagazines-wit…> Welcome to episode 52 of the Floppy Days Podcast where we talk about our beloved old computers like some guys talk about their old cars. I want to thank Michael Glaser for providing his thoughts and memories of the TI-99 computer. No, this hasn’t suddenly turned into a TI-99 podcast. However, this IS the fourth in a series of what now will be 5 episodes on the TI-99/4A home computer. There just turned out to be so much material on this very interesting machine and so much interest in the community, that this turned out to be quite an extended series. Having already covered history and technical topics on previous episodes, I had originally intended this episode to cover everything from software and magazines to Web sites, but by the time my co-hosts and I had gotten through the material it turned out to be over 2 hours of audio and I decided to break it into 2 parts. This episode will cover TI-99 software, books, magazines, ads and user groups while the next one will cover emulation and Web sites. My very special co-hosts for this episode are two more luminaries in the TI-99 community: Chris Schneider, who produces the SHIFT838 newsletter and Rich Polivka, who manages the popular 99er.net Web site. They provide a very interesting perspective on the TI-99 and I think you will enjoy this show.

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Museum move report
by Evan Koblentz 21 Feb '16

21 Feb '16

We were extremely productive today. Don and Steve showed up unexpectedly, in addition to Jeff J. and Adam M. being there to help, It's easy to get stuff done with five people present! Here is everything we accomplished today: - Finished emptying the homebrew room - Removed our wall-mounted shelves from all four rooms - Moved everything except computers/display cases from the big iron room - Moved non-VCF stuff from new room (various tables, construction items) - Built eight of the new microcomputer shelving units (only 17 to go...) - Built all five of the new stools (very comfortable, thanks Ben G!) - Many years overdue: acquired a good-quality handtruck (thanks Don!) Here are some pictures: - http://www.vcfed.org/evan/stool.jpg - http://www.vcfed.org/evan/unpacking.jpg - http://www.vcfed.org/evan/eight_shelves.jpg - http://www.vcfed.org/evan/liners.jpg - http://www.vcfed.org/evan/handtruck.jpg

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