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Modern printer
by djg 14 Apr '23

14 Apr '23

I planned to bring my modern printer to have option of printing picture taken at full resolution. Just realized forgot to grab my printer and going back for it not practical. Can anyone bring one? Needs to be supported by Linux and USB or Ethernet. Don't know if anyone actually will want modern print so not a big deal.

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VCF East
by Daveyk021 14 Apr '23

14 Apr '23

I cannot make it today, tomorrow yes, but not today. Is the "Streamers" conference, today at 3pm, perhaps being streamed live?

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NABU - Any at VCFe?
by Bill Degnan 14 Apr '23

14 Apr '23

Is anyone bringing or working on a NABU at VCF east? I did not see any exhibits that included a NABU in them somehow. Yes, I just got one, it came in the mail today. Bill

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XTIDE testing
by Sentrytv 14 Apr '23

14 Apr '23

Just making sure that I am on the list for Saturday morning for testing in my XTIDE board I purchased and mentioned to glitch works (Jonathan) a couple of months ago. Mike Rosen Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.

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Exhibit table dimensions?
by Bill Degnan 14 Apr '23

14 Apr '23

Please repkybwith the exhibit table dimensions, thanks Bill

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Circuit board pre-heater for the new desoldering bench in the CDL makerspace
by Martin Flynn 13 Apr '23

13 Apr '23

After the excellent feedback from our subject matters experts in both CDL and VCF , I opted to order a Hakko FR-830-02 pre-heater from TEquipment in Long Branch. https://www.tequipment.net/Hakko/FR830-02/Pre-Heater/ Best price, free shipping, and a supporting a local business! Martin Flynn

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FREE: RJ45 to DB25 Adapters at VCF East
by Jonathan Chapman 13 Apr '23

13 Apr '23

All, I've got three shoebox sized boxes of misc. RJ45 to DB25 adapters. They'll be in the hackerspace. Come grab a few. Don't grab a bunch on Friday or Saturday. Don't know what configuration they are, just misc. stuff. I believe all of them are openable/re-pinnable; that is, not molded or potted. Thanks, Jonathan

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Throwing down the gauntlet: Idea for VCF East 2024 theme
by Dan FitzGerald 13 Apr '23

13 Apr '23

I don't know if anybody has talked about themes for VCF East 2024, but I realized that Sunday, April 7, 2024 will be the 60th anniversary of the launch of the IBM System/360. That will also be the weekend _after_ Easter, and thus be around the time when we would be holding VCF East 2024. I think that this is a very good opportunity to take advantage of these coincidences and do a System/360 or IBM mainframe theme. Thoughts? Regards, Dan FitzGerald They/Them/Theirs http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/dfitzger

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SOME motherboards can be expanded to ISA slots
by Jeffrey Jonas 13 Apr '23

13 Apr '23

New life for old ISA cards: https://youtu.be/putHMSzu5og Add an ISA slot to Modern Motherboards! TheRasteri Apr 11, 2023 Wanna run DOS games on your new(ish) PC? No problem! https://github.com/rasteri/dISAppointment https://github.com/crazii/SBEMU https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=93291 dISAppointment - LPC to ISA adapter - ISA on modern motherboards

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VCF East Before-Hours Exhibiting
by Dan FitzGerald 13 Apr '23

13 Apr '23

I read that exhibits at VCF East don't open until 7:30 AM on Saturday. However, last year we were exhibiting (either officially or unoffically) on Friday -- I recall handling a school group at one point. Is there going to be any "early" exhibiting this year? And if not, how are we going to secure the exhibit rooms? Regards, Dan FitzGerald They/Them/Theirs http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/dfitzger

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Re: Throwing down the gauntlet:
by David Keith 12 Apr '23

12 Apr '23

Since I have now retired, I am in the process of reanimating my IBM front panel collection. With this challenge, you may have given me a deadline to get them completely animated again. I have the following in my collection: IBM System 370 Model 145 Mainframe CPU Operators Console Panel w/ header IBM 3705 Communications Controller front panel IBM 3803 Tape Control Unit Control panel Let me know, if there is any interest, transportation will be a issue, these items are made of big iron. ThanksDavid duBose

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Items for sale at VCF East
by Jonathan Sturges 12 Apr '23

12 Apr '23

> I won't be able to make VCF this year (alas! Family commitments) but I would be glad to put a bid in on this if anyone would be able to pick it up and is passing near Arnold on their way home (near Annapolis). Dave, I drive past Annapolis regularly, if you're ok waiting a week or 2? I'm tentatively planning to be out that way the weekend following VCF-E. -Jonathan

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Items for sale at VCF East
by Mike Loewen 12 Apr '23

12 Apr '23

I've listed a few items for sale, to be delivered at VCF East. Shipping to the lower 48 will also be considered: http://q7.neurotica.com/VCFEsale.html So far, I have an Apple IIE Workstation Card, 5V relay packed PCB, AMI S9900 CPU, and a Tandy 2000 hard drive controller. Feel free to make offers, off-list. More items to come. Mike Loewen mloewen(a)cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Interest in Univac Uniscope?
by Bill Degnan 12 Apr '23

12 Apr '23

Jeff, You should plan to bring it to a workshop, that would be the best time, rather than a festival, because then you'd have people who can help you get it up and running. If you want to sell it as-is, bring to the VCF consignment this weekend. Bill On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 8:19 PM Jeffrey Golas via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Hey all, I was planning to bring my Univac Uniscope 100 terminal to VCF to > sell, but my back got hurt a bit (Im ok) and thus muscling heavy things > around is a (literal) pain, so I figured I'd check on interest. > > Unfortunately it doesnt work; but I did go through and clean it up. I can > provide more detail to anyone interested. > > Is there anyone interested? Can anyone give me an idea on value? Im not > sure but the wide vector tube may fit other HP terminals of the era. (This > uses vector graphics). > > Jeff > > >

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Interest in Univac Uniscope?
by Jeffrey Golas 12 Apr '23

12 Apr '23

Hey all, I was planning to bring my Univac Uniscope 100 terminal to VCF to sell, but my back got hurt a bit (Im ok) and thus muscling heavy things around is a (literal) pain, so I figured I'd check on interest. Unfortunately it doesnt work; but I did go through and clean it up. I can provide more detail to anyone interested. Is there anyone interested? Can anyone give me an idea on value? Im not sure but the wide vector tube may fit other HP terminals of the era. (This uses vector graphics). Jeff

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VCF East Exhibits Layout
by Dan FitzGerald 11 Apr '23

11 Apr '23

Do we have layouts available for the VCF East exhibits? Regards, Dan FitzGerald They/Them/Theirs http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/dfitzger

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Food options at VCF East 2023
by Jeffrey Brace 11 Apr '23

11 Apr '23

Unfortunately, I was unable to get a caterer to sell food at our show this year. We are going with Plan B which is to sell food like we did last year. It will be sold in the cafeteria where consignment is located. Our food license allows us to sell packaged food and to reheat frozen food such as Hot Pockets. I'm currently making up a menu based on feedback from last year. ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Throwing down the gauntlet: Idea for VCF East 2024 theme
by Dan FitzGerald 10 Apr '23

10 Apr '23

I mean, "Mainframes and Macintoshes" has a nice ring to it... Regards, Dan FitzGerald They/Them/Theirs http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/dfitzger -----Original Message----- From: Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> Reply-To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Sentrytv <sentrytv(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Throwing down the gauntlet: Idea for VCF East 2024 theme Date: 04/10/2023 12:20:42 PM

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semi Off Topic: unbricking a Chromebook
by Jeffrey Jonas 10 Apr '23

10 Apr '23

I salvaged a Lenovo 100e Chromebook 2nd Gen MTK model 81QB I'm trying to reinstall ChromeOS to give it to Infoage for the front desk. At first, the boot screen told me to insert a USB drive with the recovery image. I went to http://google.com/chromeos/recovery and created a USB drive with recovery image (15329.59.0) I put the USB drive into the Chromebook only to get a blank screen. I left it alone for hours and nothing happened. Frobbing the power switch seems to have bricked it. It now gives a blank screen, only briefly flashing the "still updating" message. Is there any way to recover from this? Thanks -- jeff jonas

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Hakkp Hot Air Desoldering Station
by Martin Flynn 10 Apr '23

10 Apr '23

Thanks to Jeff J alerting me to nozzles being sold at a massive discount by Marlin Jones https://www.mpja.com/, CDL now has additional nozzles! Link: http://compdecon.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/IMG_3348-scaled.jpg Martin A Flynn / W2RWJ Computer Deconstruction Laboratory 2201 Marconi Road Wall Township, NJ 07719 Tel: +01 732-456-5001 Email: martin.flynn(a)compdecon.org Online: www.compdecon.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/compdecon/

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Bil Herd's show promoting VCF East
by Jeffrey Brace 08 Apr '23

08 Apr '23

https://youtube.com/live/qUHFTg6fSDU Bil Herd kindly let me broadcast on his show to talk about VCF East for an hour yesterday 4/7/2023. He really does more than most people know to support our organization and cause. Such a great guy! He will be leading the two roundtables this year at VCF East. ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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VCF East 2023 Exhibitors
by Jeffrey Brace 08 Apr '23

08 Apr '23

A (hopefully) final list of exhibitors at this year's show: https://vcfed.org/events/vintage-computer-festival-east/vcf-east-exhibits/ ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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VCF East 2023 schedule
by Jeffrey Brace 08 Apr '23

08 Apr '23

Not sure if I posted this before: https://vcfed.org/events/vintage-computer-festival-east/vcf-east-schedule/ I separated it by different days as the schedule has become so busy that it is unwieldy to have on one continuous page. ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Live Conference Connection with Museums at VCF Museum at VCF East
by Douglas Crawford 08 Apr '23

08 Apr '23

We are supporting a live conference screen from the museum for VCF East to other museums or venues. Or at least we would like to have the ability to "ring" you and connect visitors to your museums for a chat. The idea is to give you a chance to talk to interested parties real time that we meet in the museum, finding that there is an interest that they have that relates to your place. And give you a chance to talk up your museum. The Steering Committee liked the idea; we'll see how it goes. If there is interest I'll arrange the connections. Leave comment/interest here, thanks. We'll probably use google meet to simplify the operation. Thanks! Look forward to some face to face conversations. DC

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Roberta Williams (Sierra On-Line / Cygnus) Interview
by Jeffrey Brace 07 Apr '23

07 Apr '23

I interviewed Roberta Williams today which is streamed on YouTube here: https://youtube.com/live/mEqmb1K6GxA For those that don't know, she was co-founder of Sierra. She is also co-founder of Cygnus and helped to make Colossal Cave Adventure 3D. A modern remake of the classic text adventure game. ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Looking to buy Mac SE - meet at East?
by Andrew Diller 07 Apr '23

07 Apr '23

Hello - I'm still looking for a decent spare SE. Nothing but a SE. No battery damage and it would be nice if it boots. Not worried about keyboard or mouse, or any HDs in it. I need a spare to help diagnose this one I have. If you have one and are going to East and want some cash Friday - message me and let's do a deal. Meanwhile, I'm having a ton of fun with this BBS software that is being developed for System 6.0.x on the Mac. The author just implemented support for FidoNet and so it can do net messaging for that super retro feel. It actually a nice system to have as a test BBS for various 8bits when testing with FujiNet. It's very easy to configure and very robust. https://jcs.org/subtext <https://jcs.org/subtext> -andy

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Vintage 1989 Leading Edge, Monitor, and Samsung Printer
by Liz Burdick 07 Apr '23

07 Apr '23

Hello VCF! My mother in law passed away last fall and we inherited a 1989 Leading Edge, Monitor, and Printer. The photos are attached. It's in pristine condition. What should we do with it? We'd like to see it go to a good home. Liz Burdick New Paltz, NY

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Including our affiliated east coast tech/computer museums in VCF East
by Douglas Crawford 05 Apr '23

05 Apr '23

Any local tech/computer museums are welcome to send literature for us to put on display at our museum at VCF East. We want to support you. Send it to Vintage Computer Federation Museum c/o InfoAge Science & History Museums 2201 Marconi Road Wall, NJ 07719

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WTB: Cromemco System Zero
by Jonathan Chapman 04 Apr '23

04 Apr '23

All, I'm looking for a Cromemco System Zero chassis, empty or not. I have a SCC-based board set I'd like to put into a Cromemco-branded home! I would of course prefer pick-up at VCF East. Thanks, Jonathan

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Victoreen serial converter in Maryland?
by Dave McGuire 02 Apr '23

02 Apr '23

I believe that's radioassay equipment for post-event radionuclide identification. It looks like it has been out there for a long time. Shame. :-( -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Victoreen serial converter in Maryland?
by Jeffrey Golas 02 Apr '23

02 Apr '23

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The Internet Archive lawsuit demonstrates that e-books are tricky and elusive
by Jeffrey Jonas 01 Apr '23

01 Apr '23

https://www.marketplace.org/2023/03/30/the-internet-archive-lawsuit-highlig… The Internet Archive lawsuit highlights the tricky economics of e-books and libraries Janet Nguyen Mar 30, 2023 https://www.npr.org/2023/03/26/1166101459/internet-archive-lawsuit-books-li… A judge sided with publishers in a lawsuit over the Internet Archive's online library By Joe Hernandez March 26, 2023

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video game preservation
by Jeffrey Jonas 01 Apr '23

01 Apr '23

I just heard this on National Public Radio: https://www.npr.org/2023/03/31/1167511374/nintendo-closed-some-digital-stor… March 31, 2023 Heard on All Things Considered NPR's Juana Summers talks with Kelsey Lewin of the Video Game History Foundation about the recent closure of some of Nintendo's digital storefronts. they are https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_preservation https://gamehistory.org/ The Video Game History Foundation is a 501(c)3 non-profit organization dedicated to preserving, celebrating, and teaching the history of video games. https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2022/01/12/video-game-preservati… Academics want to preserve video games. Copyright laws make it complicated. By Noah Smith January 12, 2022

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Schedule VCF East 2023
by Jeffrey Brace 31 Mar '23

31 Mar '23

Schedule has been updated: https://vcfed.org/events/vintage-computer-festival-east/vcf-east-schedule/ Commodore Classroom: https://vcfed.org/commodore-8-bit-classroom/ Enjoy! ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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VCF East and beyond - Call for museum docents
by Douglas Crawford 30 Mar '23

30 Mar '23

Hello members. This is an open invitation: Might you be interested in sharing our thrill of presenting our awesome artifacts & their history to the public? Then please consider becoming part of our docent team. Specifically, we are looking for some people to help out docenting for hourly time slots at VCF East and, if you like it, maybe on a continuing basis. - Contact me offline for a link to our docent schedule. On this you can up for 1 hr timeslot(s). No experience necessary. You don't have to be an vast vintage computer expert. Know a few things and have some enthusiasm. We'll have a cheat-sheet for you to use to help you have a few things to say about the machines to the lay public. Most of the visitors will be our "faithfuls" and can mind themselves. - Check us out over the weekend. - Catch up with me personally over the weekend for any further discussion. - We offer you a opportunity and tools and the comradery, to develop your knowledge over the entirety of computer history. - You can help us attain our next museum expansion into a new huge space at InfoAge. We are on the cusp of a revolutionary push forward in the scope and significance of the Mid-Atlantic museum and you can be in on the ground floor. Thanks for your attention. Doug Crawford VCF Mid-Atlantic Museum Manager

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Contact information for the guy who runs Usagi Electric?
by Dave Shevett 29 Mar '23

29 Mar '23

Trying to get in touch with this fellow, as he has a bunch of people love and equipment, and we have some overlapping audiences on YouTube. Does anybody know him, or have his contact information? He's mentioned VCF East a few times in his videos, but I don't have a way to contact him directly.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF EAST
by Jeffrey Brace 29 Mar '23

29 Mar '23

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 6:13 PM drummy via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Is the classroom schedule complete yet?Its not on the vcfeast website.Sent > from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > Classroom schedule will be up soon as well as the speaker schedule. I was just waiting for the changes to settle down. Hopefully no more changes before the show!

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF EAST
by Chris Fala 29 Mar '23

29 Mar '23

As far as the Commodore Computer Classroom schedule is concerned, yes it is ready. I submitted it to Jeff yesterday. I assume it will be on the website soon. I can’t speak to other aspects of the weekend schedule. Chris On Mar 28, 2023, at 6:13 PM, drummy via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: Is the classroom schedule complete yet?Its not on the vcfeast website.Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> Date: 3/28/23 6:08 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Sentrytv <sentrytv(a)yahoo.com> Cc: Jeffrey Brace <jeffrey(a)vcfed.org>, vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF EAST Any VCF East questions should be directed to me. I’m happy to answer themor find you the person that can answer them.On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 10:14 AM Sentrytv <sentrytv(a)yahoo.com> wrote:> Just a question for those people advertising VCF East.>> I noticed that this event is not up on the ARRL events calendar .>> I am wondering if in the future maybe it should be ?I never thought about it. It’s not strictly a swap meet or flea market.Also they require some to attend to a Amateur Radio frequency, which ishard for me to spare a volunteer that for the whole 3 days.Let me ask the organizers.>> People do advertise conventions swapmeets Hamfests and other events there.>> I know that we have been trying to get the swapmeet up on the ARRL events> calendar.>> Mike>>> Sent from:> My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.>-- =========================================Jeff BraceVCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice PresidentVintage Computer Festival East ShowrunnerVintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charityhttps://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/>jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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VCF EAST
by Sentrytv 28 Mar '23

28 Mar '23

Just a question for those people advertising VCF East. I noticed that this event is not up on the ARRL events calendar . I am wondering if in the future maybe it should be ? People do advertise conventions swapmeets Hamfests and other events there. I know that we have been trying to get the swapmeet up on the ARRL events calendar. Mike Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.

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Chip Dimensions
by Martin Flynn 28 Mar '23

28 Mar '23

Anyone have the dims for the following DIP packages? DIP-14N PDIP package DIP-40 CDIP package DIP-32 CDIP package DIP-28 CDIP package DIP-24 CDIP package Martin Flynn

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FYI: Reservations for Residence Inn Marriot for VCF East
by Jeffrey Brace 28 Mar '23

28 Mar '23

I heard from a VCF member that Residence Inn by Marriott on Jumping Brook Road in Neptune Township is closed for repairs. There was some sort of water main break. The problem is that the online system doesn't tell you that the place is closed and continues to take reservations. I recommend that anyone that has made online reservations call and verify their reservations with a person. Another good place that many members have stayed is Courtyard by Marriott Wall at Monmouth Shores Corporate Park as an alternative. I would make reservations soon if you haven't already done so. This looks to be the biggest VCF East yet! ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Mylar Tape
by Duane Craps 28 Mar '23

28 Mar '23

There is cheap mylar punch tape on ebay. I bought a few rolls. https://www.ebay.com/itm/392994905002?hash=item5b80525baa:g:tZoAAOSwJUdeZ5k… -- DuaneCraps sdɐɹɔ ǝuɐnp

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Proud owner of a Vintage Thompson T08D MC6809EP Motherboard
by Neil Cherry 27 Mar '23

27 Mar '23

Some of you may be aware of my tendency towards vintage Motorola equipment. Well I now have another new odd board to add to the list: Vintage Thompson T08D MC6809EP Motherboard I'm aware that it is just a motherboard and yes I don't know if it works. But I took my chances. While working in the industry I knew about the Thompson computers and have always wanted on. I'm not going to pay $500 + shipping to the US so this is my compromise. I know I need a SCART interface, I think I can connect it to my HDMI TVs. The keyboard is going to have to be a hack (arduino and some chips to a PS/2 keyboard). I'm hoping I can get this working and running. Will be an interesting project machine. PS: The Liebert (MC6803 based HVAC controller)is coming along well. I'm trying The figure out the asm code to take 2 8 bit values (parallel) and merge each on to it's respective bit on Address 0x8000 (Bit 8 -> Serial 1, B7 - Serial 2, bit 6 -> Serial 3, remaining bits are unconfirmed as of yet.) Even disassembly of the original code is bit (pun!) convoluted. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry kd2zrq(a)linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies KD2ZRQ

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AS/400e 620
by Bill Degnan 27 Mar '23

27 Mar '23

Recently I rescued a AS/400e 620 system. It's at Kennett Classic if you want to check it out. Bill

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Gordon Moore has passed
by Christian Liendo 25 Mar '23

25 Mar '23

With great sadness, the Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation announces the passing of our founder, Gordon Moore. https://www.moore.org/article-detail?newsUrlName=in-memoriam-gordon-moore-1…

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] OT: need help with 2011 MacBook
by Bob Shuster 24 Mar '23

24 Mar '23

Solved - Command-R did it! I had totally forgotten that was a thing. Now that it has Lion installed I can update it to whatever I like (up to High Sierra I think?) Thanks for the input everyone - most appreciated. Bob Shuster > Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 15:51:35 -0400 > From: Don Barber <don(a)dgb3.net> > To: vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] OT: need help with 2011 MacBook > Message-ID: <908bff3b-e0b7-3a73-5e05-cdd57a8f81b0(a)dgb3.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > You tried Shift-Option-Command-R?during startup? There should be a rom > built in to reinstall on that model. > > Don

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OT: Modern Dell PCs for sale from Princeton University
by Jeffrey Brace 24 Mar '23

24 Mar '23

https://princeton.ams.incircuit.com/eams/f?p=1077:1502:::::P1502_ID,P1502_L… ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] OT: need help with 2011 MacBook
by Dave Shevett 23 Mar '23

23 Mar '23

Don has it. Macs have a 'reinstall' bootup option that let you install MacOS over the internet. See https://elluminetpress.com/2020/03/reinstall-macos/ On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 3:51 PM Don Barber via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > You tried Shift-Option-Command-R during startup? There should be a rom > built in to reinstall on that model. > > Don > > On 3/23/23 15:12, Bob Shuster via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > > I’m not sure where else to turn, so hoping one of you folks can maybe > help. I have an Apple MacBook Pro "Core i7" 2.8 13" Late 2011 with a new > blank HDD. This apparently shipped with MacOS 10.7.2 (Lion) but can run up > to 10.13 (High Sierra I believe.) Modern MacOS makes it impossible for me > to create a bootable flash drive or DVD for some reason and I only have > install disks that go up to MacOS 10.5. Long story short - I need a > bootable 10.7.2 DVD or USB drive (up to 10.13 but I’d prefer to restore it > to original OS), or original install/recovery disks for this machine, or > definitive instructions on how to create one here on a modern Mac. I used > to be able to do this easily, but now Disk Utility chokes on the process. > Thoughts? _ Bob Shuster > > > -- Dave Shevett shevett(a)pobox.com

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OT: need help with 2011 MacBook
by Bob Shuster 23 Mar '23

23 Mar '23

I’m not sure where else to turn, so hoping one of you folks can maybe help. I have an Apple MacBook Pro "Core i7" 2.8 13" Late 2011 with a new blank HDD. This apparently shipped with MacOS 10.7.2 (Lion) but can run up to 10.13 (High Sierra I believe.) Modern MacOS makes it impossible for me to create a bootable flash drive or DVD for some reason and I only have install disks that go up to MacOS 10.5. Long story short - I need a bootable 10.7.2 DVD or USB drive (up to 10.13 but I’d prefer to restore it to original OS), or original install/recovery disks for this machine, or definitive instructions on how to create one here on a modern Mac. I used to be able to do this easily, but now Disk Utility chokes on the process. Thoughts? _ Bob Shuster

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chat GPT admits error - NRI 832 Predated and outsold the Kenbak 1
by Bill Degnan 23 Mar '23

23 Mar '23

Yes, that is correct. The NRI 832 computer was introduced in 1972, which was after the Kenbak-1 was introduced in 1971. However, the NRI 832 may have sold more units than the Kenbak-1, even though both computers had limited commercial success. The NRI 832 was marketed to hobbyists and electronics enthusiasts, while the Kenbak-1 was marketed more towards businesses and scientific institutions. social(a)kennettclassic.com But you just said that the first NRI 832 was advertised before the Kenbak 1 Yes, that is correct. I apologize for any confusion my previous responses may have caused. According to some sources, the NRI 832 computer was advertised in the September 1971 issue of Scientific American, which predates the introduction of the Kenbak-1 in 1971. Therefore, the NRI 832 computer was introduced and advertised before the Kenbak-1. Furthermore, some sources suggest that the NRI 832 computer may have sold more units than the Kenbak-1, even though both computers had limited commercial success. The NRI 832 was marketed to hobbyists and electronics enthusiasts, while the Kenbak-1 was marketed more towards businesses and scientific institutions. I apologize for any confusion my previous responses may have caused, and I hope this clears up any confusion.

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