July 2024 - vcf-midatlantic

Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ
by Gregg Levine 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

Hello! I resemble that remark. Teletypes were useful before computers were around to complain about the unit having worse handwriting than the people. Now why is the velociraptor trying to open the doors on building 9015? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8(a)gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 3:23 PM Brian L. Stuart via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 01:28:02PM -0400, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > > Bill, you could not be more wrong. Windows XP was the first computer. A visitor to LSSM told me that a while back. I was so relieved, as that meant I didn't have to deal with these huge heavy boxes anymore. > > > > -Dave > > So I got Computer Science degrees before there were computers? > Cool! That means my time travel experiments do work in the > future...or the past...or sometime. > > BLS >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ
by Bill Degnan 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

The ASR 32 and 33 differ in only a few places many parts are interchangeable. The 33 is the "free terminal" that came with many minicomputers od the 60s like a keyboard and mouse comes with todays' Dell computer. The early homebrew era computers often used asr33 teletypes as the terminal and program storage. That's why a computer hobbyist might want the parts from a free asr32 to use for repairs of a 33. Bill On Fri, Jul 12, 2024, 3:22 PM m simons via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Now I'm curious... what are the "useful parts"? And what would one use > them for? > > On Friday, July 12, 2024 at 12:42:35 PM EDT, Bill Degnan via > vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Also has useful parts. > b > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 12:37 PM Ian Litchfield via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > My thoughts exactly. The M32 can be used for RTTY or interfacing to an > > earlier electromechanical system. Doesn’t need to be a computer. > > > > Adapters can also be fabricated to translate the Baudot into ASCII as > well. > > > > At the end of the day though it’s free, if you get it can you really > > complain? Tinker with it and if it’s not your cup of tea, pass it on to > > someone who will enjoy it! > > > > -Ian L. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 11:56 W2HX via vcf-midatlantic < > > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > > Ethan, I'm pretty sure your M15 and your M32 can talk to each other. > Make > > > sure to wire the M32 selector magnets in parallel for 60mA loop vs > series > > > for 20mA loop and run the loop directly to the selector magnets (I > don't > > > recall if the M32 has a LESU or not). > > > > > > > > > 73 Eugene W2HX > > > My Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces(a)lists.vcfed.org> On > > Behalf > > > Of Ethan Dicks via vcf-midatlantic > > > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2024 11:22 AM > > > To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > > > Cc: Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks(a)gmail.com> > > > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 8:45 AM W2HX via vcf-midatlantic < > > > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > I'm surprised there is so much interest in a baudot machine. > > > > > > Me too. I have one, and I only got it because I also happen to have a > > > Model 15, not that they can talk to each other (being free for the cost > > of > > > gas was an essential point - I wouldn't have paid $$$ for it) > > > > > > -ethan > > > > > > >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ
by Dave McGuire 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

It was a joke, son, I say, I say, a joke! -Dave On July 12, 2024 1:34:25 PM "Hopkins, Justin via vcf-midatlantic" <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > ---------- > RE: [vcf-midatlantic] Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ > From: Hopkins, Justin Justin.Hopkins(a)broadridge.com > Date: Jul 12, 1:34 PM > To: vcf-midatlantic vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org > > Yet every IBM mainframe still uses EBCDIC 60 years after it was introduced….. > > > From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces(a)lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf Of Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2024 1:28 PM > To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > Cc: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ > > On July 12, 2024 11: 47: 06 AM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@ lists. vcfed. org> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 11: 38 AM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic@ lists. vcfed. org> wrote: >> > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > This Message Is From an External Sender > This message came from outside your organization. > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > > On July 12, 2024 11:47:06 AM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org<mailto:vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org>> wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 11:38 AM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < > >> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org<mailto:vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org>> wrote: > >>> On July 12, 2024 11:22:06 AM Ethan Dicks via vcf-midatlantic < > >>> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org<mailto:vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org>> wrote: > >>>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 8:45 AM W2HX via vcf-midatlantic > >>>> <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org<mailto:vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org>> wrote: > >>>>> I'm surprised there is so much interest in a baudot machine. > >>>> > >>>> Me too. I have one, and I only got it because I also happen to have a > >>>> Model 15, not that they can talk to each other (being free for the > >>>> cost of gas was an essential point - I wouldn't have paid $$$ for it) > >>> > >>> Not all Teletype applications involve computers, or computers that speak > >>> ASCII. > >>> > >> Are you sure because the first PC, the IBM PC from the 1980's I think uses > >> ascii I think. > > > > Bill, you could not be more wrong. Windows XP was the first computer. A visitor to LSSM told me that a while back. I was so relieved, as that meant I didn't have to deal with these huge heavy boxes anymore. > > > > -Dave > > > > -- > > Dave McGuire, AK4HZ > > New Kensington, PA > > > > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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PDP 8i for sale on Ebay, dutch auction style
by Bill Degnan 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

https://www.ebay.com/itm/156283513230 (read comments on how the auction works). b

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Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ
by Joseph Giliberti 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

https://www.facebook.com/share/11jE1jTgu59WGeT8/?mibextid=kL3p88

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Launch of the Classical Computing Laboratory at IBM Poughkeepsie
by Dave McGuire 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

Wow, celebrities in our midst! REXX is fantastic, you did amazing work on that. Your book occupies a prominent spot on my shelves, and we've a copy of it at LSSM as well for use by guests. Speaking of which, you should come out to visit LSSM at some point. We have running S/390 and ES/9000 machines, and some S/370 projects in the works. (not to mention all the DEC machines you've ever heard of, iron from HP, Varian, Cray, Modcomp, Sun, SGI, you name it. Complete, real, non-emulated machines with real peripherals, making the power company happy every day. A visit from your redoubtable self would be a great honor to our group. -Dave On 7/8/24 11:54, Mike Cowlishaw wrote: > :-) 'twasn't a port .. I wrote it from scratch, I believe. Still have > INV.PLI :-) > > Mike > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dan FitzGerald [mailto:danjfitzgerald@comcast.net] >> Sent: 08 July 2024 16:08 >> To: vcf-midatlantic >> Cc: Dave McGuire >> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Launch of the Classical >> Computing Laboratory at IBM Poughkeepsie >> >> Most of the equipment in the lab belongs to Connor Krukosky; >> the PC Portable, PCjr, and the dot matrix printers are mine. >> I also did the VM/ESA configuration (I run the IBM CIO's z/VM >> sysprog team) while Connor did the P390 and terminal hardware >> configuration. He also restored the IBM Memory Typewriter >> and repaired the (previously >> professionally-restored) IBM Correcting Selectric II. >> >> Connor most definitely lifted the F50 up onto that table, but >> we also have furniture dollies and a nice collapsing cart. >> >> Fun fact: the VM/CMS port of Space Invaders was done by a >> young Mike Cowlishaw, who developed the Rexx language. >> >> Regards, >> Dan FitzGerald >> They/Them or She/Her >> Classical Computing Laboratory at IBM Poughkeepsie >> http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/dfitzger >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf- >> midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> >> Reply-To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> >> To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> >> Cc: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> >> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Launch of the Classical >> Computing Laboratory at IBM Poughkeepsie >> Date: 07/08/2024 10:19:50 AM >> > -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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German Navy replaces 8" drives in Frigates
by Neil Cherry 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

Japan just got rid of their dependence on floppies. Seems Germany has decided to get with the times. Article suggest that they are using a floppy emulator. https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/german-navy-aims-to-repl… Herb and I have been discuss something similar for the last few weeks. I'm adding a floppy emulator to my Peripheral Technologies PT69-5A and PT68K2s. Getting the files from Linux/DOS/Windows to the disk image has been an interesting challenge. And getting the images from the real floppy to the image files another adventure. Still working on that one. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry kd2zrq(a)linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies KD2ZRQ

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5.25 floppy reader & writer adapter
by Sentrytv 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

One thing I have never understood is why no one has designed and built a 5.25” floppy drive to USB adapter? (Like the 3.5” ones see all over.) Maybe for a Newer PC to Read and Write . Yes, I know the newer OS’s do not support 5.25” Floppy formats any longer. Yes, I know one is available to read floppies only. BUT, I would just plug a USB adapter into my XP laptop and use it. Easy Peasy It would be so convenient wouldn’t it? Any up to the challenge? Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > On Jul 12, 2024, at 9:42 AM, Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Japan just got rid of their dependence on floppies. Seems Germany has decided > to get with the times. Article suggest that they are using a floppy emulator. > > https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/german-navy-aims-to-repl… > > Herb and I have been discuss something similar for the last few weeks. > I'm adding a floppy emulator to my Peripheral Technologies PT69-5A > and PT68K2s. > > Getting the files from Linux/DOS/Windows to the disk image has been an > interesting challenge. And getting the images from the real floppy to > the image files another adventure. Still working on that one. > > -- > Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry kd2zrq(a)linuxha.com > http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site > http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog > Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies KD2ZRQ

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Apple //e, //+, //c boot disks
by Jeffrey Brace 11 Jul '24

11 Jul '24

Does anyone have time to make and mail some boot disks to someone in Oklahoma? I'm really busy over the next 2 to 3 weeks and don't have time to do it in the museum. Let me know and I will share his contact info with you. Thanks! Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner VCF Mid-Atlantic Event Manager Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Launch of the Classical Computing Laboratory at IBM Poughkeepsie
by Dan FitzGerald 11 Jul '24

11 Jul '24

TLDR; Flickr link at bottom. After two years of work and a mountain of red tape, Connor Krukosky and I are proud to announce the official opening of the Classical Computing Laboratory at IBM Poughkeepsie! The Classical Computing Laboratory (sometimes shortened to POK-CCL or CCL@POK) is a historical computing center accessible to IBM employees and official site visitors, with the stated goal of our collection being available for hands-on use. IBMers can come in and use the equipment between the hours of 12 and 2 PM every Wednesday, or by special appointment. This presents a number of amazing potential opportunities, ranging from employee experience to education outreach to client/customer relations. We officially opened this past Wednesday, June 26 as part of the annual IBM MHV (Mid-Hudson Valley) Summer Activities Fair; we then continued into the next day for IBM MHV Take Our Children to Work Day. I've put together a Flickr album of photos that Connor and I took during the two events. In all but two cases, I framed the photos to keep visitors' faces obscured -- the important thing to me is seeing people having fun with these machines and using them. Here is the equipment we currently have available to use: 3193 Display Station 3278 Display Station 3279 Display Station 3290 Information Panel 5251 Display Station 5510 Computing System AT/370 (5170-599) Correcting Selectric II Memory Typewriter PC Graphics Printer (5152) PCjr (4675-007) Personal Printer Series II (2390) Portable Personal Computer (5155) PS/2 Model 25 Color (8525-004) PS/2 Model 56sx (8556) PS/2 Model 57sx (8557) PS/2 Model 80 (8580) RT/PC (6150) RS/6000 Server F50 (7025-F50) S/390 Integrated Server (3006) System/36 "Compact 36" (5362) https://www.flickr.com/gp/200991657@N06/9XH55N361M Regards, Dan FitzGerald They/Them or She/Her Classical Computing Laboratory at IBM Poughkeepsie http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/dfitzger

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