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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] A fragment of early British computer history is up for sale.
by W2HX 09 Apr '19

09 Apr '19

?that price seems a little, shall we say, optimistic? ________________________________ From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces(a)lists.vcfed.org> on behalf of Stephen via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 1:26 PM To: vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org Cc: Stephen Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] A fragment of early British computer history is up for sale.

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A fragment of early British computer history is up for sale.
by Stephen 09 Apr '19

09 Apr '19

A fragment of early British computer history is up for sale. https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/flintsauction/catalog… A Ferranti Pegasus Computer Plug-In Package Unit, English, c.1960, with an aluminium label for ‘FERRANTI 07-p-00730’, wired pre-printed electronic circuit board (module) with components to one side and wiring to the other, with 3 glass valves to the top below the handle to unplug the board Note: The Ferranti Pegasus mark 1 (first named the FPC I -Ferranti Package Computer) was developed in the early 1950s and is still considered one of the outstanding feats of electrical engineering for its time. It was a valve operated mainframe with a 48 register immediate access store which used nickel delay lines. It had a magnetic drum store initially with a 4K word capacity which was later increased to 7K . Pegasus was considered the first “user-friendly” computer, and about forty Pegasus systems were sold, between 1956 and 1962, with scores of programmers and users of the machine commenting on the ease of programming and operation, in spite of the fact that data input and output is via 5-track punched-paper tape. There was no typewriter keyboard or display screen Stephen Walters Professional Celebrity Photographer / G7VFY www.facebook.com/mister35mm Tel 07956-544202

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HP Plotter for sale in Harrisburg, PA
by jsalzman＠gmail.com 09 Apr '19

09 Apr '19

Saw this and just passing it on. For those who may be interested in an page plotter. Looks like it has a lot of pens with it. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1020752601444561/

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FS: 17" CRT monitor AcerView 78c
by Andy Meyer 09 Apr '19

09 Apr '19

I am selling a clean, working AcerView 78c 17" CRT monitor. Specifications: https://www.cnet.com/products/acer-acerview-78c-crt-monitor-17/ I can bring it to an InfoAge repair workshop. I will NOT ship this beast. Reply off-list Andy

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April 13: VCF East exhibit deadline - FIRM
by Evan Koblentz 08 Apr '19

08 Apr '19

Everyone, The exhibit registration deadline for VCF East 2019 is 11:59pm on Saturday, April 13. I'll hate doing this, but we must: any exhibit application received after that time will be declined. -- Evan Koblentz, executive director Vintage Computer Federation www.vcfed.org evan(a)vcfed.org (646) 546-9999 VCF is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.

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VCF East 2019 Workshop Project: CF and CP/M for the 8085 SBC!
by systems_glitch 08 Apr '19

08 Apr '19

See here for pictures: http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?69219-VCF-East-2019-Project-CF-an… ! This year's project will be a follow-on to the 8085 SBC from last year: we'll be building a CompactFlash interface and getting CP/M 2.2 up and going! If you built an 8085 SBC last year, bring it along and get an interface going for it! If not, I'll have some more 8085 SBC kits with me this year. See the above link for details, there's a poll so I can try to gauge actual interest. Thanks, Jonathan

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Repair Workshop Signup for March 30 & 31, 2019
by Jeffrey Brace 07 Apr '19

07 Apr '19

There is still room to sign up for the VCF repair workshop. Signup now to guarantee a table: < https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qisU7Goz7_QQVOtuCEg8PsDfh7-adv0zNXI… > -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation

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Museum report
by Evan Koblentz 07 Apr '19

07 Apr '19

Good day! Two groups of visitors: an older couple who both worked at Bell Labs in the 1960s-1980s, and two college women who wanted to learn about programming. They all got full tours. Martin, his son, and yours truly all worked on our security cameras and related networking upgrades. All four cameras work now, and their live video is displayed on a monitor near our office desk. The monitor changes cameras every 30 seconds; Martin will try to get us a newer system showing all the cameras simultaneously in different windows. We will also install two more cameras at some point -- maybe as soon as two weeks from now. A longer-term project is to actually record video, not just have live streams. Sometime before VCF East I'm going to put up a prominent "You're on camera" sign. Martin also gave us a newer Ubiquiti wireless access point to replace our older Cisco unit. Where the Cisco one was a big hassle to install, even for experienced IT folks, the Ubiquiti device was super easy: did it myself in a few mouse clicks. It's on top of our network rack. Steve A. is coming by next Wednesday to relocate it to the ceiling where the Cisco one currently resides. I don't do ladders. :) With the new AP up-and-running, I disabled the wifi section of our Internet modem. That device now ONLY gives us Internet access and connects directly to our firewall. That's how it should be!

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Funny
by Chris Fala 07 Apr '19

07 Apr '19

I wonder if this is just their attempt at a clever pun, or if they are aware of and referring to our favorite podcast. https://shirt.woot.com/offers/trash-talk

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Museum Report 2019-04-06
by Jeffrey Brace 06 Apr '19

06 Apr '19

Tony did the first shift from 1 to 3. He had 4 highly interested visitors. I tool from 3 to 5 because I had leadership training at Taekwondo. I also had 2 groups of 2 highly interested people. A nice day. More people coming now that the weather is getting warmer. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation

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Anyone have any info on the Sun 511 box?
by Ethan Dicks 06 Apr '19

06 Apr '19

Hi, All, I'm dusting off old Sun gear for VCF East and I ran across a shell of a Sun 511 box on my shelf. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find any docs online about what would have been stuffed into it back in the day. Lots of Sun info still out there but the 511 box is not well represented. I suspect that's because I think it's a late Sun 2/early Sun 3 device. The best description is here: http://www.obsolyte.com/sunFAQ/X11_case/ Better photos at: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SunShoebox_Front.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun-2#/media/File:SunShoebox_Rear.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun-3#/media/File:Sun3_60_Disk_Tape.jpg Mostly I'm curious about mounting plates/brackets, etc. I don't have the original PSU so if I use this box, I'll have to find something modern anyway. I also have some more modern (late Sun 3/early Sun 4) tape/disk shoeboxes. I haven't found any pictures online but they are tall enough to hold a full-heigh 5.25" disk over a 5.25" half-height tape drive on a half-height bracket with the PSU to the rear. Those are ready to stuff with disks so I'll probably start there. If only I had more than one DD50-P Sun SCSI cable... Alas, the "joy" of vintage machines, when it's hard to find parts that fit. -ethan

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The Grey Wall
by Jameel Akari 06 Apr '19

06 Apr '19

https://hartford.craigslist.org/zip/d/colchester-open-vms-manuals/685800286… If there is SERIOUS interest I can arrange a rescue mission. Chances are it's all on Bitsavers or archive.org but there's something to be said for a legit Grey Wall O' VMS. -- Jameel Akari

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Repair Workshop Wrap-up 3/30 & 3/31
by Herb Johnson 06 Apr '19

06 Apr '19

... and it's a two-fer of appreciation, with Bill Dromgoole's report on how the Univac repairs "get done". Some of the failures you describe - gradual loss of function across cards - suggests to me general problems like power-supply voltages. YOu found a suspect supply, I see. There's some really cheap little DC digital voltmeter boards from China for a few dollars. Putting a bunch of those on your DC lines may allow you to monitor them as you do repairs, look for sagging DC. Your "real" voltmeter can confirm the voltage; these widgets aren't that accurate but don't have to be. YOu might also 'scope out the DC, look for noise and glitches. As you know you need a lot of bandwidth to see DC spikes and dips which can trigger logic incorrectly. Also, chemical changes occur in board contacts as current flows. Corrosion over decades may create a bit of chemistry. Then when current is applied, chemistry (corrosion) may increase resistance between boards and their edge-sockets. Removal/insertion will fix that, for awhile. I've had good results with DeOxIt chemicals - even with those IC's with "black leads". A swipe of the DeOxIt brush across the board edge may work. I often follow that with some scrubbing with a white papertowel, to remove the oxide while maintaining that chemical coating. You can see dark-stuff come off. If there are pin contacts, a soft used toothbrush is a good scrubber. YOu don't want to "scrape", that removes gold and nickel! But you know these things. Point being: never underestimate the problems with "contacts". Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net

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Repair Workshop Wrap-up 3/30 & 3/31
by Herb Johnson 06 Apr '19

06 Apr '19

David, thank you for your repair work and reportage on the VCFed straight-8. Beyond the value of your efforts, reporting on details of failure, diagnostics and repair provides essential information for other's restoration of PDP-8's, and in repair techniques in general for transistor/diode logic of the 1960's. Thanks for showing us how it's done. Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Supercomputers, revisited
by Matt Patoray 05 Apr '19

05 Apr '19

Evan, How about a complete "Never Obsolete" E-Machines Celeron for that old VAX :) I'll get you the address, just don't send it Estes freight :) On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 2:41 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > NICE ONE! > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Apr 1, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Ian Primus via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > I'll make you a deal - I'll trade you a *working* Packard Bell Pentium > > 1 system, with the matching monitor, keyboard and mouse for it. I know > > that's the machine you really wanted all along. > > > > -Ian > > > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 11:25 AM Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic > > <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >> > >> I'm starting to have buyer's remorse about the VAX 9000. Maybe we should > >> offer it as the mother of all surplus items at VCF East. Thoughts? > > -- Matt Patoray Owner, MSP Productions KD8AMG

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Supercomputers, revisited
by Evan Koblentz 05 Apr '19

05 Apr '19

I'm starting to have buyer's remorse about the VAX 9000. Maybe we should offer it as the mother of all surplus items at VCF East. Thoughts?

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Slightly OT - Favorite computer movie
by Ken 05 Apr '19

05 Apr '19

At 4/1/2019 12:07 AM, Jeffrey Golas via vcf-midatlantic wrote: >Whats your favorite "computer" movie? Can be current or ancient, modern or mainframe. A one liner about why you chose it would be cool too. Electric Dreams (1984). Here, the 80's computer store scene to drool over: https://youtu.be/rcLcxAwdjmo?t=4m23s - Ken

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF East consignment - anybody interested in these items?
by Evan Koblentz 05 Apr '19

05 Apr '19

You can save time by downloading and completing the form. It's on the VCF East website. "Friday night" depends on the availability of our specific volunteers who are running the consignment booth. Nothing can be dropped off until it's processed/recorded, which is a people-intensive job. On Fri, Apr 5, 2019, 9:28 AM Peter Fletcher via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > I have some stuff I am considering taking to the consignment. Do I just > bring it on Friday night or is there some sort of pre-registration > procedure? > > > > On Apr 5, 2019, at 9:23 AM, Andy Diller via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > Sell or trade these at the repair days. It's a great way to get people > to attend and it's an easy way to get rid of stuff. > > > > > > - andy diller > > > > > >> On Apr 5, 2019, at 7:50 AM, Glenn Roberts via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >> > >> Very useful. Thanks Corey. This will help me plan the weekend. Sure > wish I could just be there the whole time! > >> > >> > >> > >> Hope I can make something happen (and hope I can attend some of VCF!). > I’ve got a lot of stuff in the storage unit and would like to lighten my > load, and give some VCF’ers new “toys”! Of course, I understand the need > to pick up any unsold items by the end of the event… thanks again! > >> > >> > >> > >> * Glenn > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: corey cohen <coreyvcf(a)gmail.com> > >> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2019 6:14 AM > >> To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > >> Cc: Glenn Roberts <glenn.f.roberts(a)gmail.com> > >> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF East consignment - anybody > interested in these items? > >> > >> > >> > >> Glenn, > >> > >> > >> > >> I’m not sure consignment will be ready for drop off on Friday > morning, we can wait for Evan to chime in, but by Friday at 5:00pm people > will be dropping off. You don’t have to be here all weekend for > consignment, but if your unsold stuff isn’t out by 7:00pm on Sunday it will > go in the dumpster (unless it’s a Cray or PDP-10, which will be given away > to the person who offers the most beer). VCF does not want to keep > people’s unsold items. > >> > >> > >> > >> For pricing, you set your price at the beginning, VCF takes 15%, but > covers all credit card/PayPal fees which allows people not to carry so much > cash. If your onsite, you can change your prices on Sunday morning and at > 3:00pm Sunday. This keeps people from going crazy changing prices all > weekend. If your exhibiting or leave your mobile on your consignment > sheet, we can let people call your mobile to ask questions, but for if they > bargain with you and you want to change the price for them, VCF would like > you onsite to confirm in person the price was changed. > >> > >> > >> > >> I hope that explains it all, > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Corey > >> > >> > >> > >> corey cohen > >> uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> > >> On Apr 4, 2019, at 8:55 AM, Glenn Roberts via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org <mailto:vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org> > > wrote: > >> > >> Can someone say a bit about the rules for the consignment area? As > luck would have it, I need to go get my son from college that weekend so I > may miss much (nearly all?) of VCF but I have some items that I'd like to > put out at consignment if that could work. It would literally be a > drive-by/drop-off on the way north (e.g. Friday AM?). I am hoping I could > at least salvage part of Sunday as a day to attend VCF (plan details still > TBD) on the way back home. > >> > >> Is it pretty much a requirement that the seller be on premises during > the whole event? People post fixed prices? No negotiation? I'm sure > there's a requirement to be there at the end to reclaim any unsold > merchandise of course. Would it even be workable for me to have > merchandise in consignment and not be there Friday and Saturday? > >> > >> Any other rules of the consignment area would be most useful to know. > Sorry, last year was my first at VCF and I didn't get to experience much > at the consignment area. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> - Glenn > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> > >> From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces(a)lists.vcfed.org <mailto: > vcf-midatlantic-bounces(a)lists.vcfed.org> > On Behalf > >> > >> Of corey cohen via vcf-midatlantic > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2019 8:09 AM > >> > >> To: vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org <mailto: > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > >> > >> Cc: corey cohen <coreyvcf(a)gmail.com <mailto:coreyvcf@gmail.com> > > >> > >> Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF East consignment - anybody interested in > >> > >> these items? > >> > >> > >> > >> So I’m starting to think what I’d like to get rid of to make more room > at > >> > >> home. > >> > >> > >> > >> Would anyone be interested in the following items? > >> > >> > >> > >> BTW: I know people will say, depends on price, well that part I will > think > >> > >> about so it’s fair not fire-sale pricing, this is more of should I drag > this stuff > >> > >> down question. Some of you know I recently broke my shoulder blade > falling > >> > >> off a ladder so I will have to have someone bring these items for me > since I > >> > >> can’t carry a lot, so I don’t want to drag them down for nothing. > >> > >> > >> > >> - Sony 42” plasma computer monitor (no screen burn) circa 1999 with Dual > >> > >> VGA input, composite and component/BNC composite input Actually works > >> > >> with Apple II+. No stand since it never had one, only included wall > mount. > >> > >> > >> > >> - ADM 5 terminal with service manual. Fully working. > >> > >> > >> > >> - Decitek high speed paper tape reader (parallel interface), works also > as > >> > >> normal reader without reels, I had this connected to my ALTAIR Parallel > card > >> > >> using a latch of simple TTL chips to handle the strobe and data lines. > >> > >> > >> > >> - Vectrex with multi-cart cartridge (cartridge has every vectrex game > they > >> > >> made and also has a really good asteroids arcade knock off which also > gets > >> > >> the audio right) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Let me know what/if I should bring down to VCF East. > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Corey > >> > >> > >> > >> corey cohen > >> > >> uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> > >> > >

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VCF East consignment - anybody interested in these items?
by corey cohen 05 Apr '19

05 Apr '19

So I’m starting to think what I’d like to get rid of to make more room at home. Would anyone be interested in the following items? BTW: I know people will say, depends on price, well that part I will think about so it’s fair not fire-sale pricing, this is more of should I drag this stuff down question. Some of you know I recently broke my shoulder blade falling off a ladder so I will have to have someone bring these items for me since I can’t carry a lot, so I don’t want to drag them down for nothing. - Sony 42” plasma computer monitor (no screen burn) circa 1999 with Dual VGA input, composite and component/BNC composite input Actually works with Apple II+. No stand since it never had one, only included wall mount. - ADM 5 terminal with service manual. Fully working. - Decitek high speed paper tape reader (parallel interface), works also as normal reader without reels, I had this connected to my ALTAIR Parallel card using a latch of simple TTL chips to handle the strobe and data lines. - Vectrex with multi-cart cartridge (cartridge has every vectrex game they made and also has a really good asteroids arcade knock off which also gets the audio right) Let me know what/if I should bring down to VCF East. Thanks, Cheers, Corey corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Repair Workshop Wrap-up 3/30 & 3/31
by Jeffrey Brace 04 Apr '19

04 Apr '19

Bill and Duane, Thanks for all your work. Please let me know if there is any way to support you further. On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 1:01 PM Bill Dromgoole via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Univac Workshop Report > > > Duane and I arrived at the museum on Tuesday afternoon. > After getting settled at the on campus lodging, we started evaluating the > condition of the Univac equipment. > The 1219B computer was working as usual with a small problem in the upper > I/O channels. > The 1540 digital data recorder is in poor shape. Lower handler will not > move at all. > No communication with 1219B computer. The 1532 I/O console appears to be > working fine. > > Duane built a USB to 1219B interface(MIL-STD 1397 type A) device using an > arduino chip which he brought with him to test. > After playing around for a while we were able to upload files from a > laptop computer to the Univac. > We spent most of the next day copying files to the computer and dumping > them to the paper tape punch in the 1532 I/O console. > We also spent time trouble shooting the 1540 DDR concurrently with the > file copying. > > The first problem on the DDR turned out to be a bad logic translator card > in the handler electronics itself. > Fortunately we were able to find one in the spares at the warehouse. > This corrected the signal to the pinch rollers but the tape kept jamming > in the tape head area. > Turned out to be a bad roll of tape with poor oxide retention. > > Over the next couple of days we found a lot of bad cards in the 1540 DDR > with a lot of trips to the warehouse for parts. > Most of the failures were intermittent and took a while to locate. > At one time we were able to copy a program from memory to magnetic tape > and then reload it to memory, although the handshaking was not proper. > Things kid of went downhill from there. > More card failures in the DDR. Not communicating with the 1219B, clocks > not running bits in various registers always set, etc. > We were able to find most of these and get some of the communications back. > Meanwhile after editing some programs on the laptop and trying to punch > new tapes the paper tape punch started to not work properly. > Next, the keyboard on the teletype started jamming and after that the > paper tape reader stopped working. > > Found that the tape reader power supply is failing. Plus and minus 15 > volts slowly drifts down to 8 to 10 volts. > Was unable to repair before the weekend was over. > The keyboard is probably just not lubricated properly. > One of the new programs we copied uses the keyboard a lot. > We hardly used it before this trip. So that highlighted this problem. > The punch problem may be related to the reader power supply? Who knows. > Was able to use the time left after clean up on Sunday to scan another one > of the Univac pubs to a PDF file for bit-savers. > > Final status: > Computer working fine. > Digital data recorder is mostly working. Still needs possible alignments. > I/O console almost completely inop except for printer. > > > > From: Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 4:08 PM > To: vcf-midatlantic > Cc: Jeffrey Brace > Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] Repair Workshop Wrap-up 3/30 & 3/31 > > We had about a dozen members working on their machines and VCF machines > Saturday and Sunday. Most did two days while some did one day. > Bill Dromgoole and Duana Craps had worked on the Univac 1219B in the museum > for the past week. They can give an update later as to their progress. > David Gesswein worked on the museum's PDP-8. He will send a report later. > There were others working on various projects. > I got there midday and wasn't able to work on anything Saturday. > Sunday I took VCF's turn at the InfoAge front desk. > Evan can fill you in on what he was working on as well as the others. > > This time we went to a new place: MJ's for Saturday dinner. Everyone liked > it. > Afterwards we played Cards Against Humanity which is always a fun time. > Sunday morning we went to a new place: Mariner's Cove for breakfast. Also > great food! > > The next workshop is April 13 & 14. > > -- > ========================================= > Jeff Brace > Vice President > Vintage Computer Federation > > -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation

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Repair Workshop Wrap-up 3/30 & 3/31
by Jeffrey Brace 04 Apr '19

04 Apr '19

We had about a dozen members working on their machines and VCF machines Saturday and Sunday. Most did two days while some did one day. Bill Dromgoole and Duana Craps had worked on the Univac 1219B in the museum for the past week. They can give an update later as to their progress. David Gesswein worked on the museum's PDP-8. He will send a report later. There were others working on various projects. I got there midday and wasn't able to work on anything Saturday. Sunday I took VCF's turn at the InfoAge front desk. Evan can fill you in on what he was working on as well as the others. This time we went to a new place: MJ's for Saturday dinner. Everyone liked it. Afterwards we played Cards Against Humanity which is always a fun time. Sunday morning we went to a new place: Mariner's Cove for breakfast. Also great food! The next workshop is April 13 & 14. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation

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Museum report
by Evan Koblentz 03 Apr '19

03 Apr '19

We had two groups of high school students visit today. Each group was about 15-20 kids. They were smart and well-behaved. I gave them full tours. A new IA volunteer also came for a tour. I used the in-between time to work on VCF East stuff.

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OT: selling (unopened) Galaxy S10 earbuds
by Evan Koblentz 02 Apr '19

02 Apr '19

Recently upgraded to a Samsung Galaxy S10. They sent me wireless earbuds. I don't need those. Posted for $120 on eBay (they usually go for $130-$160), but I will take $100 from any friends. Need payment quickly. Here are a couple of pictures. I'm not opening the box; presumably the earbuds are inside and not rocks. :) https://photos.app.goo.gl/PEbFBGXMrzC2DkfP6

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Slightly OT - Favorite computer movie
by Christian Liendo 02 Apr '19

02 Apr '19

On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 12:07 AM Jeffrey Golas via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Whats your favorite “computer” movie? Can be current or ancient, modern or mainframe. A one liner about why you chose it would be cool too. TRON

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Slightly OT - Favorite computer movie
by Chris Fala 01 Apr '19

01 Apr '19

Good ones. Sandra Bullock, The Net On Apr 1, 2019, at 11:11 AM, Sentrytv <sentrytv(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Antitrust Ryan Phillip Tim Robbins (as Bill Gates type leader) Hackers Who can't resist Angelina Jolie Weird science Always gets a laugh Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > On Apr 1, 2019, at 12:07 AM, Jeffrey Golas via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > <mime-attachment>

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PDP "straight" 8 Progress
by Bill Degnan 01 Apr '19

01 Apr '19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQn7TpgnVrw So far so good, working on PDP 8 picked up from Mexico. Bill

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Slightly OT - Favorite computer movie
by Sentrytv 01 Apr '19

01 Apr '19

Antitrust Ryan Phillip Tim Robbins (as Bill Gates type leader) Hackers Who can't resist Angelina Jolie Weird science Always gets a laugh Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > On Apr 1, 2019, at 12:07 AM, Jeffrey Golas via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > <mime-attachment>

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Slightly OT - Favorite computer movie
by David Riley 01 Apr '19

01 Apr '19

On Apr 1, 2019, at 12:07 AM, Jeffrey Golas via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > From: Jeffrey Golas <jeffg(a)junknet.net> > Subject: Slightly OT - Favorite computer movie > Date: April 1, 2019 at 12:07:14 AM EDT > To: vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org > > > I was poking around my Apple TV tonight and spotted a movie I never got to see called “the computer wears tennis shoes” - a 1969 Disney movie with Kurt Russel about a mainframe. I put it on my short list to watch on a rainy day. > > It got me thinking...we all know the staple computer movies like Wargames and Weird Science, Lawnmower man, Matrix etc. > > Whats your favorite “computer” movie? Can be current or ancient, modern or mainframe. A one liner about why you chose it would be cool too. Mine is probably still WarGames. It actually still has a lot of real life applicability: the mad rush to automation and workforce reduction with insufficiently-proven technology resulting in near disaster, poorly-secured network connections and OSINT leading to breaches by bored teenagers, etc. It's all still quite relevant. It's also a great reminder of how mind-bogglingly insane the late Cold War was on all sides. Sneakers is also still pretty good. Hackers is amusing, if maybe a bit overly campy, but it has strong accolades from folks who were actually in the scene back in the day, so I have some respect for it (and the soundtrack is pretty great). - Dave

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Slightly OT - Favorite computer movie
by Ethan O'Toole 01 Apr '19

01 Apr '19

> [NON-Text Body part not included] Mine used to be War Games. I also liked Sneakers. Hackers is fun and had a great soundtrack. I think a lot of it had to do with just seeing it and it being computer related, although the idea is a bit far fetched looking back. When I was young there were some other run-ups. Disney's B.R.A.T. Patrol had modified TRS-80 model 100s, that was a fun movie. If you haven't seen it, check out Whiz Kids. It was a TV series that was good but unfortunately all of the copies in the wild are bad. Of course there are other hacker movies. Laughted at The Net because it seemed silly, but it had the true heartthrob in it.. <3 The US Robotics Courier HST Dual Standard! Of course we laughed at Emojis but now that Slack has taken over many a workplace ... it's full of emjois. Guess it predicted the future. Jumping Jack Flash is another often left out hacker movie. Dumb terminal/mainframe even! Of course Real Genius is awesome, but I don't think of it as a computer movie. It involves another hobby of mine, laser show systems. But I think I'm sticking with War Games. - Ethan

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Slightly OT - Favorite computer movie
by Jeffrey Golas 31 Mar '19

31 Mar '19

I was poking around my Apple TV tonight and spotted a movie I never got to see called “the computer wears tennis shoes” - a 1969 Disney movie with Kurt Russel about a mainframe. I put it on my short list to watch on a rainy day. It got me thinking...we all know the staple computer movies like Wargames and Weird Science, Lawnmower man, Matrix etc. Whats your favorite “computer” movie? Can be current or ancient, modern or mainframe. A one liner about why you chose it would be cool too.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] UNIX TOWN --- Repair Workshop Signup for March 30 & 31, 2019
by Lou 31 Mar '19

31 Mar '19

As much as I wanted to attend this workshop especially for the UNIX TOWN exhibit planning my ability to get up there this weekend is very unlikely. There is a small chance I might come up later today for an hour or two but again, this is unlikely. To those who do meet up today to discuss the exhibit and plan it out, give me the details over discord! I don't want to be left out. -Lou

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Breakfast tomorrow 9am Mariner’s Cove
by Jeffrey Brace 30 Mar '19

30 Mar '19

VCF repair workshop people will be going to breakfast tomorrow 9am Mariner’s Cove in Brielle. 712 Union Ave Brielle, NJ 08730 All are welcome, but let me know if you are coming so that I can get enough seats. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation

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OT: A good blog on programming subjects
by Douglas Crawford 30 Mar '19

30 Mar '19

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amber CRTs
by Herb Johnson 29 Mar '19

29 Mar '19

Someone is asking me for a particular oddball-brand 12" CRT monitor, for one of those "word processors". I'm posting here, because I have one for them but they want it cheaper than my price. (No, it's not CGA or VGA or MGA etc.) But this monitor is *amber* (yellow phosphor) and that's how I value it, as a CRT part. If I have to buy such a CRT "cold", it's likely I'd have to spend $75 to get it. It will likely fit a number of terminals or vintage computers. (I know how to do that.) So: does someone have a 12" amber CRT or monitor for sale? Then I can offer this guy what he wants a little cheaper. and I'm curious, do my vintage friends particularly *value* amber monitors (versus white and common-enough green) anymore? Is it still a thing? Herb "screen-burn" Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net

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Straight 8 training
by David Gesswein 29 Mar '19

29 Mar '19

Hopefully at this workshop I will finish the work to get rid of the last known issues that prevented fully using the straight 8. If any of the Docent's or anyone else wishes to practice/try using it stop by. Sunday would be better since most of the repairs should be done by then..

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Subject: Re: Hello - new to list
by David K 28 Mar '19

28 Mar '19

Unfortunately I can't be there this Saturday because of plans with the family. But I appreciate the offer and will look to come to the next one. David K

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Sun E250
by Ethan O'Toole 28 Mar '19

28 Mar '19

Is a Sun E250 something that VCF would want? Have one from a friend that passed away. Also have an Oracle N|C, Oracle's set top forray into cloud before cloud I guess you would call it. - Ethan

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F/S: Sun E450 (not mine, not VCF's)
by Evan Koblentz 28 Mar '19

28 Mar '19

DO NOT REPLY TO THIS LIST, the seller isn't here. Seller said he's in Monroe, NJ. His email is below. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: RE: Consignment at VCF East Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 19:12:52 +0000 From: Steve Zubatkin <zubykins(a)outlook.com> To: Evan Koblentz <evan(a)vcfed.org> Hi Evan, Thanks for the response. Here’s information on the condition as well as its specs and accessories. *Condition:* Overall condition is 9 out of 10. Externally, the system looks new except for some minor scratches. As with most E450s, the removal media/control panel door does not latch but this one doesn't open by itself. The system is 100% functional as it passed all diagnostics, connects to the network and runs Solaris 10 from hard disk. This is a “turn key” system: 1. Sun Ultra Enterprise 450 on 4 casters 2. Power cable 3. Console Serial cable for connection to a PC 4. 2 Keys for locking the power switch and door accessing the disk drives 5. A notebook containing hardware documentation 6. Solaris 10 This E450 is well configured: * 4 X UltraSPARC-II 400 MHz * 4,096 MB (at the maximum) * 2 x 9 GB & 5x 18 GB Hard Disks. All disks have been wiped. * System originally had a CD-ROM drive but it was upgraded to DVD * DDS3 Tape drive * Diskette drive * 3 power supplies * Sun Quad Gigaswift Ethernet UTP Adapter Thanks, Steve

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DIP switches
by Mike Loewen 28 Mar '19

28 Mar '19

Don't neglect them while troubleshooting, especially the little red bastards. :-) My HP 2647A graphics terminal developed what appeared to be a sync problem when displaying more than one line of text. Swapping the suspect cards with known good ones from another terminal didn't change a thing. All self-tests passed, including text RAM and graphics RAM. Graphics mode worked perfectly. I finally swapped the two RAM cards (32K on each), changing the DIP switch configurations on each. At last, a RAM error. I excercised all of the DIP switches, put everything back together and it worked. This is the second time I've had problems with DIP switches in vintage HP gear. The other was in a 2117F I was working on for Dave McGuire. Same cure. Mike Loewen mloewen(a)cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Subject: Re: Hello - new to list
by David K 28 Mar '19

28 Mar '19

The two things I am most interested in working on are: 1. I have a Mac SE Superdrive. It doesn't want to boot correctly and I get an image of a disk with a question mark when I turn it on. One time I used a Desktop Diagnostic disk and I was able to get into the computer. It suggested there was damage to the hard drive and asked me if I wanted to re-initialize (?) and I said no as I wanted to see what was on the computer. That was a mistake because since then the same diagnostic disk will not do anything. A "Macintosh Basic" introductory disk also works on it but I can never get to the desktop screen. It's been frustrating for sure. 2. Trying to get one of my Commodore 64's to work with sound. I don't know if the only way you can do it is to buy the correct chip (the 6581?). I've never replaced something like this... I think it doesn't need soldering but I'm not sure and I'm hesitant to buy the chip if that isn't the solution or there is a better work around. David K.

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Vintage Computer Lot
by Christian Liendo 28 Mar '19

28 Mar '19

Someone selling in NJ https://newjersey.craigslist.org/sys/d/northvale-massive-vintage-computer-l…

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Commodore term app
by Matt Reynolds 28 Mar '19

28 Mar '19

Hi, Do any of you folks out there in VCF land have the ability to write me a disk for the Commodore 64 with a terminal app, like this one? http://commodore.software/downloads/download/59-ccgms/410-ccgms-elite-v2-0 I am trying to get back into the retro comp/gaming scene, and I'm working on building a wifi "modem" from an IoT board. I'm contemplating going to the repair day, but even if I don't make it, I am down at the base frequently and can pick it up sometime soon. I will be more than happy to send you a disk. Thanks for the help. Matt

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VCF Pacific Northwest pictures
by Tony Bogan 28 Mar '19

28 Mar '19

There are a large number of pictures on the VCF Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/423874470963995/posts/2897415740276510?sfns=1 Tony Sent from my iPhone

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Person w/ the PDA/Hand-held exhibit at VCF east
by Andrew Diller 27 Mar '19

27 Mar '19

Hello - if you are on this list please contact me off list! About VCF East 2019. -andy

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Museum report
by Evan Koblentz 27 Mar '19

27 Mar '19

Interesting day. A group of 20 special needs students visited at 11am, and then we had a few random visitors throughout the day. Bill Drom. and Duane arrived yesterday and they're staying on campus through Sunday to work on the Univac. They are focusing on making the CPU and tape drives more reliable. Duane built a gadget that uses a microcontroller that lets his laptop communicate with the Univac -- USB on one side, serial on the other. They also had a homemade Univac card tester. I had my own projects to do all day, including trying new info kiosk software. We closed the day at a local Irish bar for dinner/beer.

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Subject: Re: Hello - new to list
by David K 27 Mar '19

27 Mar '19

I first heard of vcf at a STEM convention that was held at the Philly Convention Center a few years ago. You had a table set up with a number of old computers that the public could interact with. Since then I've gotten more into the hobby myself and want to do more with understanding and exploring vintage computers and so I thought I'd join. David K

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IMPORTANT Info for VCF Repair Workshop
by Jeffrey Brace 26 Mar '19

26 Mar '19

As a reminder the workshop is $10 *per* person, *per* day. Sorry this is InfoAge's rule and not our decision. So that means for two days it is $20. Sign up quickly to guarantee a table. DATE: March 30 & 31, 2019 LOCATION: InfoAge Building 9032A - (2201 Marconi Road, Wall Township, NJ) TIME: Start about 10 A.M. on Saturday and ends whenever we go to sleep. End about 5 P.M. on Sunday. (Starts around 10 A.M. Sunday morning) SIGNUP: < https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qisU7Goz7_QQVOtuCEg8PsDfh7-adv0zNXI… > COST: - $10 per person, PER day. This is required by InfoAge for us to pay for renting the space. - $25 for those wanting to stay overnight (Money goes to InfoAge). Please pay me when you get there so that I don't forget and then have to spend time chasing you down. Credit cards accepted. I will be using VCF's PayPal Here tablet with bluetooth credit card machine. OVERNIGHT: Bring your own pillow, blankets, soap etc. We provide a bed frame and an uncovered mattress. There are showers and a kitchen for your use. - You can pay via PayPal to paypal(a)vcfed.org. or to me via cash or credit card in person. EQUIPMENT: - VCF will provide a table and you can use any available electrical outlet. - Bring your own tools, power strips, power cords, and supplies etc. - If you need particular tools that you don't know or particular parts, please post to the list for those going. They may have what you need. Let them know ahead of time. - Please bring an extra one or two power cords as these are often forgotten by people. DRINKS: You should bring your own. I would recommend bringing a cooler of some type. FOOD: You provide your own. We usually order pizza, subs or go out to a dinner and everyone pays their own way. Usually, we make a decision when everyone gets hungry. GATE: During the hours from 1 pm to 5 pm close the front gate behind you. We want museum visitors to go to the front lobby and not wander through the middle of the campus. Outside of those times, you can feel free to leave the gate open. PARKING: Park across from 9032 or 9010A on any blacktop area. InfoAge doesn't like us parking on the lawn anymore. QUESTIONS? Contact Evan : 646-546-9999 or evan(a)vcfed.org or myself (Jeff) : 732-759-1783 or jeffrey(a)vcfed.org Have fun everyone! -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation

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8-Bit Goldbergs
by Andy Meyer 26 Mar '19

26 Mar '19

Has anyone else seen this episode? It hits pretty close to home :-) https://abc.go.com/shows/the-goldbergs/episode-guide/season-6/19-8-bit-gold… Andy

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Cards Against Humanity @ upcoming workshop :)
by Evan Koblentz 26 Mar '19

26 Mar '19

Someone please bring CAH this weekend (for Saturday late night). My girlfriend never played it; she wants to see what the fuss is about.

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Hello - new to list
by David K 25 Mar '19

25 Mar '19

My name is David K and I am more a fan of vintage computers than any sort of expert. I am in the health care field and currently teach at a college in Reading PA. I've been reading the daily digest for awhile and realize I am in over my head and have very little to offer to the group. I get excited if I can open an Apple disk drive, clean off the head, and get it back together. Many of the topics discussed I have no familiarity with (ex. Unix). But I love vintage computer and have more than a dozen in my basement. I grew up with the Apple IIe - still my favorite - and have other popular machines like the Atari 800XL, Vic 20, TI-99/4A, Apple IIgs, etc. I would love to know more about these machines including how to make repairs (I have an Apple IIc plus that has a stuck internal disk drive, a Mac that will only boot to the image of the disk with a question mark, a Commodore 64 with no sound) but lack the skills and typically do not feel confident doing work based on videos or pages I see online. I live about 2 hours from the museum but it sounds awesome and I will make a pilgrimage there in the near future. If there is anyone in the southeast part of PA (Berks, Lancaster counties, etc.) who is interested in connecting feel free to email me. I am excited to be part of the group.

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