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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] how about a lovely vintage printer for that computer :-)
by Dave McGuire 18 Nov '18

18 Nov '18

On 11/18/18 7:33 PM, Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > But can you get ribbon cartridges? Ribbons for most common dot-matrix printers are still made and are readily available. I hear lots of people saying they're not available anymore, probably only based on assumptions, but I've purchased ribbons for a lot of impact printers over the past few years. I even found DEC LA34 ribbons a few weeks ago and am about to order a few. In fact this applies to a great many things that people assume are somehow unavailable because they've not personally purchased them for many years. A good example is MMJ connectors. I bought 100 new MMJ connectors from a cabling supplier (not a surplus dealer!) a few weeks ago. They actually showed up, and they're actually the right thing. It pleases me to no end that we can actually still get a lot of the supplies we need to keep our stuff running. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Museum report
by Evan Koblentz 18 Nov '18

18 Nov '18

We had a nice group of visitors today from a Pennsylvania museum of industry. They took a thorough tour and stayed for a while. Bill I. escorted them around the campus. Adam and Tony both did warehouse projects. I helped before/after museum hours. Today's assorted warehouse accomplishments: - Cleared a whole shelving unit from the Commodore aisle. During the past few months, that aisle got condensed from 10 units down to 7 units by meticulously assessing what we do/don't need. - Added several Amiga computers to the surplus category. - Remember I posted a while ago about the AT&T "Counterpoint" never-released Unix workstations? They'd been living in various places of the unsorted area. Now they have their very own shelving unit in the sorted area. - Figured out a way to make room for a whole extra aisle in the sorted side! It'll be mostly for DEC, Epson, HP, and Heathkit. - Sorted some books and software. - There's a Mac SE in the surplus area. We happened to have a spare Mac SE original box. We made them into an item. ________________________________ Evan Koblentz, executive director Vintage Computer Federation a 501(c)(3) educational non-profit evan(a)vcfed.org (646) 546-9999 www.vcfed.org facebook.com/vcfederation twitter.com/vcfederation instagram.com/vcfederation

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] how about a lovely vintage printer for that computer :-)
by David Riley 18 Nov '18

18 Nov '18

I don't know about that particular model, but often enough, yes! There weren't a lot of different mechanisms, so the ribbons were fairly common (I can still get ribbons for my ImageWriter II, though I don't know if I could still get color ones). They're still used a number of places that require impact printing, particularly for multipart forms. Well, here, answer my own question: https://www.quikshiptoner.com/catalog/panasonic-kx-p1124-printer-ribbon-6pa… - Dave > On Nov 18, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > From: Sentrytv <sentrytv(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] how about a lovely vintage printer for that computer :-) > Date: November 18, 2018 at 7:33:59 PM EST > To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > > > That really is a great printer are used to have that 20years ago in my business > I still have a box of paper for it! > But can you get ribbon cartridges? > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > >> On Nov 18, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: >> >> I have some things that need adoption, >> starting with a lovely Panasonic KX-P1124 >> >> 24 pin dot matrix printer. >> Come on, upgrade from that 9 pin printer already! > > >

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Re: Modern Computers available at Festivus
by Jonathan Sturges 18 Nov '18

18 Nov '18

Jason,Are any of them small form-factor systems? I might be interested in something small. thanks,Jonathan

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CRITICAL Festivus SIGNUP NOW!
by Jeffrey Brace 17 Nov '18

17 Nov '18

nOW tHAT i gOT yOUR aTTENTION. It was recommended that I get a more catch subject line so that those with a short attention span will pay attention to my announcement. Squirrel! Please sign up for Festivus so that we know how many are coming and what you are bringing. This is the signup link for Festivus: < https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CYLtFeyBlKwX7h2ohfXz421hFQjZTPPAkdV… > A more extensive e-mail was sent out on 11/1. Don't miss your opportunity to air your grievances to Evan! Speaking about Evan look for another announcement from Evan about remembering Dan Roganti. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation

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Workshop Calendar
by Jeffrey Brace 16 Nov '18

16 Nov '18

For the latest Repair workshop and Mid-Atlantic Chapter calendar, visit this site: http://vcfed.org/wp/groups/vcf-mid-atlantic/vcf-mid-atlantic-calendar/ Note: The March workshop dates are in the process of being updated to March 30 & 31. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Supercomputer is all set!
by corey cohen 16 Nov '18

16 Nov '18

Or we could raise about $100k and refurbish a new section at InfoAge as a much larger museum... Anyone have any spare change to donate? corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:33 AM, Tony Bogan <thebogans(a)mac.com> wrote: > > >>>> When is it getting hooked up and running? >> Not anytime soon. The best we can do short-term is display a portion of it >> in the museum. We swalled a large meal; now we must digest it. :) > > What’s the big deal Evan?? > > We just need to remove the UNIVAC, a couple of minis, and the micro row from the Altair through the Amiga and we can set half the new machine up!! :p > > Tony

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Godbout Static (RAM) But Not Lost
by Herb Johnson 15 Nov '18

15 Nov '18

My recent post about Bill Godbout's passing, somewhat conflated two men; of course, Bill Godbout of Compupro/Viasyn/Godbout Computers. And, a man he worked with on the IEEE-696 specification, George Morrow who also produced S-100 boards as Morrow; George passed in 2003. It's hard for me to think about one person, without thinking about the other. They and others worked in the Oakland CA area, built early microcomputers, shared parts and customers and companies. Their S-100 products were of similar good quality and comparable in kind. Bill Godbout had other accomplishments of course. I'm sorry if anyone was disappointed in my effort to honor Bill Godbout while remembering both. However, the general tenor of my remarks is the same, and no apologies needed for why such persons and companies are to be remembered. I'm working on a better version of these remarks on my Web site, as part of my coverage of Morrow, Compupro and other S-100 companies of the era. A Web search for those will find the document. At this time, it's more important to consider the loss of Bill Godbout. Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT info

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Supercomputer is all set!
by Neil Cherry 15 Nov '18

15 Nov '18

On 11/08/2018 09:33 AM, Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic wrote: >>>> When is it getting hooked up and running? >> Not anytime soon. The best we can do short-term is display a portion of it in the >> museum. We swalled a large meal; now we must digest it.:) > What’s the big deal Evan?? > > We just need to remove the UNIVAC, a couple of minis, and the micro row from the Altair > through the Amiga and we can set half the new machine up!! :p > > Tony I've got a nice TV set you can use as a monitor ... wait it doesn't hook up like a commodore 64? ;-) All joking aside, I'd expect that this would be a project to get started. A lot of planning would be need but it would be cool to see it start up and play wumpus (duck as large metal objects go flying by). -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry(a)linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Godbout Static (RAM) But Not Lost
by Dave McGuire 15 Nov '18

15 Nov '18

On 11/13/18 12:09 PM, Brian L. Stuart via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > This is definitely a great loss for the microcomputing > community. I bought a 4K memory board kit (similar > to the one on your page) from him back around '77 > or so. I learned a lot from that board. Yes, very much so. I had some of his S-100 boards way back when, and I'm pretty sure I still have some of them. Godbout stuff was *everywhere* in the early-mid 80s. > This may be a dumb question, but I've always wondered > if I've been pronouncing his name correctly all these > years. Is it pronounced the way it appears to be spelled, > "god-bought" or does it come from a language where > the 't' would be silent or some other variation? I've wondered this myself. I've always pronounced it "god-bowt", with the second syllable rhyming with "out", but I've never been sure. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Museum report
by Evan Koblentz 15 Nov '18

15 Nov '18

Normally we open at 1pm, but InfoAge scheduled a school tour for 10:30am today so I arrived around 10 and found Ian waiting outside! There was a miscommunication and I wasn't expecting him. It worked out fine: we built a ramp of his design to get the many VAX 9000 racks off their pallets. We got two racks safely down, and then decided more/stronger people (vs. me) are needed to do the rest. Then we moved on to assessing the Prime 6550: Ian's been wanting to work on that one for several years. Didn't power anything today, but he now knows exactly what we have and what we need to make it run. There were also a few regular visitors today, most notably an older couple who spent a long time in our area and asked good questions.

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www locks out older browsers
by Herb Johnson 14 Nov '18

14 Nov '18

> Bill Degnan billdegnan at gmail.com > Mon Nov 12 12:31:44 EST 2018 > > I have been meaning to set up a simple proxy for older machines that don't > use SSL at all, or SSH. Just have not gotten around to it. Not too > complicated I don't think but I have not done it yet so I can't say with > 100% certainty until I do. When I do I will make the service available > somehow. > Bill "Older machines" apparently includes Windows XP. I had the same problem, last time I ran a few recently-older systems with XP on them. I gave up at that point, figured it was some kind of XP limitation. I know from nothings about networking protocols. But this matters a bit, there's still commercial stuff (point of sale, business systems, embedded stuff) still running XP or Win2K, etc. Bill, my bet is any proxy you'd come up with, would run on a Rasp Pi. just a convenient platform. Even those have a serial port, for some really ancient system (say Win 3.1/WFW). If you come up with something, put the word out. Herb -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT info

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Godbout Static (RAM) But Not Lost
by Herb Johnson 14 Nov '18

14 Nov '18

I got the news about Bill Godbout from Evan, a few days ago. Today I got a request from a reporter/blogger for a Godbout catalog image. I don't have any of his early catalogs; there are of course magazine ad-pages from Godbout. Can anyone share a PDF of one of his catalogs? What I sent, was the cover shot of the 1987 Dec Morrow Owners Review, a magazine published to support the Morrow MD series desktop CP/M systems. Did ja know, Morrow produced real PC's? We mostly remember his S-100 cards, and older engineers remember his sales of components before that. I recently obtained a Morrow MD-15 system, with a pile of Morrow MOR magazines. I'm trying to get the hard-drive running, but it boots 128K CP/M right now. I'll show it on my Web site in December. Morrow also co-authored the IEEE-696 specification; essentially the Morrow/Compupro S-100 bus architecture. 16 bit data, 24 bit address - enough to run 386-class systems into the 1990's. A lot of MS-DOS development work was done with S-100 systems; video processing systems at TV stations too. That bus did good work for a long time. Morrow and Compupro S-100 cards were well built, well documented; most can still run today. A dual 8085/88 CPU can run MS-DOS and two flavors of CP/M. No small feat in 1981 or thereabouts. Those cards were produced before MS-DOS existed; designers had 8088's ready to use but no CP/M to run them, people like Morrow and others. This forced the creation of a DOS which became MS-DOS, a story often told. So, there's a fundamental reason to remember Bill Godbout, and the work he and his cohorts did. They worked at a time when resources were SCARCE, not abundant. There were no computers to help design other computers (unless you borrowed time from a university). I doubt most Morrow hardware was designed on CAD PC layout systems; most microcomputer boards were hand-taped, red and blue tape for two-sided boards! Chips were not cheap, PC boards were not cheap to produce - no offshore boards in the 1970's! And most people and businesses weren't wealthy in the 1970's. IBM sold PC's in the 80's to the Fortune 500, the 500 biggest companies in America (the world, same thing). That was much easier after Godbout et all did the groundwork. The microcomputer revolution was a bottom-up proposition, not a top-down. Bill Godbout and his colleagues, remind us how to do HARD work, start from LIMITED resources, to build an industry, and to make a market, from near-zero. There will be another time, when we will have to do that again, start from little. Do you think 21st century engineers and programmers, know how to do that? This is why history of technology matters; to preserve how they did, what they did. Do you think laptops and smart phones will run 30, 40 years from now? Or be repairable when they aren't? Another lesson to preserve. And that's my long view. Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT info

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Anyone interested in an Atari2600 and some games?
by Neil Cherry 14 Nov '18

14 Nov '18

IXR has a 2600 and some games available. If you are interested please let me know. I'd say it's a 3rd generation of the console. Reminds me of the style of the 7800. Thanks -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry(a)linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies

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AIM-65 Like Clone Project
by Henry S. Courbis 13 Nov '18

13 Nov '18

Greetings and Salutations People Of The List: I hobbyist recently contacted me about a project they are considering which is a clone of the AIM-65. However I'm mostly useless to help since I have little idea how the system works, or should work. Sure I can help clone it, but that's the "simple" part. Being able to check if it's working is kind of where the magic happens. Putting parts on a board... not so much. For a starting point they have an old unit which doesn't work. We found this link for schematics: http://www.originalwoodworks.com/aim65/ They have checked the PSU and some obvious things like this, as well as replaced some of the standard ICs which were suspected to be troublesome. We don't have any ROM code to validate the ROMs to or to burn new ones. And we're both kind of in the dark as to how the system should even work, which is kind of the fun of this adventure. If you can't break a toe and bruise a shin while stumbling around in the dark for the light switch, then what real fun is it? So anyone have any advice or feedback as to getting the system to at least want to seem alive, what known trouble ares there are, to yell at us for being silly geese, etc? Please email us offlist (his email to CC: tld10091 AT gmail.com) Thanks! Henry S. Courbis Office Toll Free: (800) REACTIVE (732-2848) Office/Mobile Direct: (856) 779-1900 www.ReActiveMicro.com <http://www.ReactiveMicro.com> - Sales, Support, and News, Our Headquarters on the Internet ReActiveMicro.com/wiki - Support, Software, Manuals, and History. Create your own page today! Facebook.com/reactivemicrousa - Our Social Media Outlet and Support

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Workshop Report, System Source, Hunt Valley, MD, Sun Nov 11th
by svcatitc＠aol.com 13 Nov '18

13 Nov '18

All; I figured I would fill us all in on how it went on Sun: Due to family responsibilities, I got there about 1pm. Johathan Sturges pulled into the lot the same time as I did and we commented on "timing is everything". A good crowd. The usual suspects were there. Bill DegnanBill DromgooleDuane CrapsAlex JacocksDave Gesswein Along with a bunch I did not know because of residential distance and being a semi-newbee to the group, however we were all friends at that point working on our hobby. Bill D handed me an Epson dot matrix printer that I plan to use for the "soda can crusher" project I am working on for East.ON that note, I started resurrecting an IBM 5170 '286 for the processor to control the testing machine. I got the machine taken out of it's stock chassis, and mounted it in it's new all Plexiglas ATX case, to display the early days of the 286 and technicals. It booted to BASIC the first shot! Yeah! Boy did I forget a lot since the days of fooling with this stuff on a daily basis. Jonathan S found a link to the SETUP program to talk to the BIOS of the above referenced machine. So that will help a bunch. Duane Craps was showing me the backplane of the UNIVAC 1218 and how intricate the snap in pins were used for the interconnects. I remembered using such connectors on MUX chassis when I worked at EAI in the early 1980's. Dave G was working on some PDP model. Jonathan was working on a Tandy 100 (I believe, don't quote me on that). Alex J can fill us in on what he was doing, and what some of the other members were working on. Lastly, Bob Roswell gave the interested a tour of his museum. What a class act! He has already positioned some of the racks of his VAX 9000 in the museum. At the end of the day, a bunch of us went to a local pizza joint for dinner to wrap up the festivities. Many Thanks go out to Alex J for organizing the event. Greater Many Thanks go out to Bob Roswell for hosting us in his fantastic museum setting. Thank you to all who attended. It was great fun. Bill Inderrieden

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Godbout Static (RAM) But Not Lost
by Brian L. Stuart 13 Nov '18

13 Nov '18

On Tue, 11/13/18, Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > There wasn't much online about Bill Godbout so I posted a few things here > for those who did not know of Bill Godbout and his contribution to > computing. This is definitely a great loss for the microcomputing community. I bought a 4K memory board kit (similar to the one on your page) from him back around '77 or so. I learned a lot from that board. This may be a dumb question, but I've always wondered if I've been pronouncing his name correctly all these years. Is it pronounced the way it appears to be spelled, "god-bought" or does it come from a language where the 't' would be silent or some other variation? TIA, BLS

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Godbout Static (RAM) But Not Lost
by Andrew Molloy 13 Nov '18

13 Nov '18

Sad news for sure. I remember hearing him speak at VCF West in 2000. As he started, he said something to the effect of, "Nobody here better be recording anything I see or I will take out my revolver and shoot them!" I slowly reached into my bag and pressed pause on my minidisc recorder. :) Andy On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 8:35 AM Bob Aviles via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Sorry to hear the news, rest in peace. > > Bobby > On Tuesday, November 13, 2018, 12:31:44 AM EST, Evan Koblentz via > vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > >> There wasn't much online about Bill Godbout so I posted a few things > >> here > >> for those who did not know of Bill Godbout and his contribution to > >> computing. > >> > >> http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=733 > >> > >> Bill > >> > > The article says he died November 11th, but according to the poster on > > alt.folklore.computers he died November 8th... > > > 8th is correct. I had email communication with two of his relatives today. > > >

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Godbout Static (RAM) But Not Lost
by Bill Degnan 13 Nov '18

13 Nov '18

There wasn't much online about Bill Godbout so I posted a few things here for those who did not know of Bill Godbout and his contribution to computing. http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=733 Bill

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] vcf-midatlantic Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12
by Bill Degnan 12 Nov '18

12 Nov '18

I have been meaning to set up a simple proxy for older machines that don't use SSL at all, or SSH. Just have not gotten around to it. Not too complicated I don't think but I have not done it yet so I can't say with 100% certainty until I do. When I do I will make the service available somehow. Bill On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 12:02 PM <vcf-midatlantic-request(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Send vcf-midatlantic mailing list submissions to > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.vcfed.org/mailman/listinfo/vcf-midatlantic > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > vcf-midatlantic-request(a)lists.vcfed.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > vcf-midatlantic-owner(a)lists.vcfed.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of vcf-midatlantic digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Vintage Server Racks FS or trade (Jeffrey Golas) > 2. Museum Report 18-11-11 November 11, 2018 (Jeffrey Brace) > 3. Re: Museum Report 18-11-11 November 11, 2018 (Tony Bogan) > 4. www locks out older browsers (Jim Scheef) > 5. Re: www locks out older browsers (Sentrytv) > 6. Re: www locks out older browsers (David Gesswein) > 7. Re: www locks out older browsers (Ethan O'Toole) > 8. Re: www locks out older browsers (Jim Scheef) > 9. Re: Hello Introduction (Drew Notarnicola) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 15:47:49 -0500 > From: Jeffrey Golas <jeffg(a)junknet.net> > To: vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org > Subject: Vintage Server Racks FS or trade > Message-ID: <FD99E9BD-9D65-4DEA-9D92-506D5144FD36(a)junknet.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I have a vintage 1970s (or 60s?) server cabinet for sale. Good shape, blue > filler panel on front and white panels on sides. > > Round hole, front panel can be removed. Breaker at bottom can be used as a > power switch and is accesible from the front. > > Note that this is the rack only (anything else in pics is not for sale). > > Located in Blue Bell, PA (outside Philly) Best offer or trade for an > interesting terminal or maybe s-100 boards? > > Pics here: > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cvohi2n8oog78tz/AACZBt9LiZPgTA-CZbGjD2dCa?dl=0 > > Jeff > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 17:01:54 -0500 > From: Jeffrey Brace <jeffrey(a)vcfed.org> > To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] Museum Report 18-11-11 November 11, 2018 > Message-ID: > < > CALWfZA+QaYcA8KraETqrL6irK-z7rsVckY6MTRTPCN4gEoSk8g(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Good and steady busy day at the museum. About 2 dozen visitors in total > today. In groups between 1 to 5 spread out throughout the day. Some of it > was because of some World War I event in 9032-A, but mostly it was because > it is cold day and this time of year things start to pick up again as > people look for indoor things to do. > > Lots of nice visitors with medium to high interest. Some really knew their > stuff. > > > > -- > ========================================= > Jeff Brace > Vice President > Vintage Computer Federation > > -- > ========================================= > Jeff Brace > Vice President > Vintage Computer Federation > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 17:07:49 -0500 > From: Tony Bogan <thebogans(a)mac.com> > To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Museum Report 18-11-11 November 11, > 2018 > Message-ID: <5423C908-ADCB-4325-A943-B0216590E4C0(a)mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Glad to hear it was such a good day!! > > I forgot today was the 100th anniversary of Armistice Day. Wanted to go up > to IA for that but got stuck at work darnit!! > > Was the day of the Armistice with Germany (11am on the 11th day of the > 11th month of 1918) which marked the end of all hostilities between the > Allies and Germany. > > Tony > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 01:08:43 -0500 > From: "Jim Scheef" <js(a)sdf.org> > To: "'vcf-midatlantic'" <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] www locks out older browsers > Message-ID: <000001d47a4e$2d55ea30$8801be90$(a)sdf.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hello all, > > After playing with an eMac running OS X 10.3 several months back, I let it > sit for a few months. Now it can no longer open most common websites. So > what changed while the machine was not even plugged in? After some > investigation I realized that main-stream sites have changed their SSL to > require TLS 1.2, mostly because it actually works. The result is that > vintage browsers return an error similar to ?cannot establish secure > connection?. Forcing SSL by refusing to connect on port 80, these sites > have locked out many vintage machines. > > So, what can be done? The obvious solution is to find a modern browser > that runs on your vintage OS. This may require an OS upgrade (OS X 10.4 > should run on the eMac) which allows running TenFourFox, which seems to > include TLS 1.2. > > The irony that in the name of security, the machine used to invent the web > (NeXT) may no longer be able to display it. > > Any thoughts? > > Jim > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 07:09:15 -0500 > From: Sentrytv <sentrytv(a)yahoo.com> > To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] www locks out older browsers > Message-ID: <C464DEB7-3DE0-40BA-94EA-2D1F8AC432BD(a)yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I had a Mac G5 tower that was running 10.58. > I found a Mozilla browser for this OS and it was working pretty well. > > When I sold the tower about six months ago, > of course the websites were working well. > If I find the link for it I will post it. > > Mike R. > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Nov 12, 2018, at 1:08 AM, Jim Scheef via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > After playing with an eMac running OS X 10.3 several months back, I let > it sit for a few months. Now it can no longer open most common websites. So > what changed while the machine was not even plugged in? After some > investigation I realized that main-stream sites have changed their SSL to > require TLS 1.2, mostly because it actually works. The result is that > vintage browsers return an error similar to ?cannot establish secure > connection?. Forcing SSL by refusing to connect on port 80, these sites > have locked out many vintage machines. > > > > So, what can be done? The obvious solution is to find a modern browser > that runs on your vintage OS. This may require an OS upgrade (OS X 10.4 > should run on the eMac) which allows running TenFourFox, which seems to > include TLS 1.2. > > > > The irony that in the name of security, the machine used to invent the > web (NeXT) may no longer be able to display it. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Jim > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 07:21:13 -0500 > From: David Gesswein <djg(a)pdp8online.com> > To: Jim Scheef via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] www locks out older browsers > Message-ID: <20181112122112.GA20797(a)hugin2.pdp8online.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I assume you could run a local proxy that converts. It breaks the end > to end security though. Businesses use these proxys for monitoring. > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 01:08:43AM -0500, Jim Scheef via vcf-midatlantic > wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > After playing with an eMac running OS X 10.3 several months back, I let > it sit for a few months. Now it can no longer open most common websites. So > what changed while the machine was not even plugged in? After some > investigation I realized that main-stream sites have changed their SSL to > require TLS 1.2, mostly because it actually works. The result is that > vintage browsers return an error similar to ???cannot establish secure > connection???. Forcing SSL by refusing to connect on port 80, these sites > have locked out many vintage machines. > > > > So, what can be done? The obvious solution is to find a modern browser > that runs on your vintage OS. This may require an OS upgrade (OS X 10.4 > should run on the eMac) which allows running TenFourFox, which seems to > include TLS 1.2. > > > > The irony that in the name of security, the machine used to invent the > web (NeXT) may no longer be able to display it. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Jim > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 10:26:43 -0500 (EST) > From: Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr(a)757.org> > To: David Gesswein via vcf-midatlantic > <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] www locks out older browsers > Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1811121026100.26294(a)users.757.org> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > >> The irony that in the name of security, the machine used to invent the > web (NeXT) may no longer be able to display it. > > Maybe a proxy could be built that handles satisfying the TLS 1.2 then > unwraps it for the old systems. > > - Ethan > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:16:53 -0500 > From: "Jim Scheef" <js(a)sdf.org> > To: "'vcf-midatlantic'" <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] www locks out older browsers > Message-ID: <003c01d47aa3$22f3adc0$68db0940$(a)sdf.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > David, > I first posed this question on the Vintage Apple Macintosh Enthusiasts > group > on FB. Jason Duerstock commented: "It's not trivial, but I believe you're > looking for something like this: > > https://serverfault.com/questions/822453/proxy-server-accepting-tls-1-0-and- > calling-tls-1-2-downstream > <https://serverfault.com/questions/822453/proxy-server-accepting-tls-1-0-and…> > Proxy server accepting TLS 1.0 and calling TLS > 1.2 downstream" > The documentation > https://mitmproxy.readthedocs.io/en/v2.0.2/features/reverseproxy.html is > easier to read. > Seeing that we were quite happy using these sites without any encryption, > the loss of end to end security seems inconsequential. > The key words in Jason's comment were "It's not trivial..." > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces(a)lists.vcfed.org> On > Behalf > Of > > David Gesswein via vcf-midatlantic > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 7:21 AM > > To: Jim Scheef via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > > Cc: David Gesswein <djg(a)pdp8online.com> > > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] www locks out older browsers > > > > I assume you could run a local proxy that converts. It breaks the end to > end > > security though. Businesses use these proxys for monitoring. > > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 01:08:43AM -0500, Jim Scheef via vcf-midatlantic > > wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > After playing with an eMac running OS X 10.3 several months back, I let > it sit > > for a few months. Now it can no longer open most common websites. So what > > changed while the machine was not even plugged in? After some > investigation I > > realized that main-stream sites have changed their SSL to require TLS > 1.2, > mostly > > because it actually works. The result is that vintage browsers return an > error > > similar to ???cannot establish secure connection???. Forcing SSL by > refusing to > > connect on port 80, these sites have locked out many vintage machines. > > > > > > So, what can be done? The obvious solution is to find a modern browser > that > > runs on your vintage OS. This may require an OS upgrade (OS X 10.4 should > run > > on the eMac) which allows running TenFourFox, which seems to include TLS > 1.2. > > > > > > The irony that in the name of security, the machine used to invent the > web > > (NeXT) may no longer be able to display it. > > > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:25:41 -0500 > From: Drew Notarnicola <drew.notarnicola(a)gmail.com> > To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Hello Introduction > Message-ID: > <CAPP9A8GC7wxkvCF=O=+ > 30Ek_jw0vjZ0-uNOL1i0057EA4YBN8g(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hey Tom! Nice to see a new name around here. I'm not a ham but I am a > Radio Shack Model 100 fan, so if you ever want to talk about those I'm your > guy! What did you use yours for back in the day? > Drew > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 11:04 AM Tom McNicholas via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > Evan suggested I post a hello and background not sure of length or > detail > > is the norm,, so here goes > > Retired a few years ago but still on the board of directors after a 45 > > year stint with a local electronics manufacturing company doing DOD work. > > during the 45 years did everything from testing, QA, engineering and > plant > > manager Prior to the 45 year stint was in the USAF working on VHF, UHF > and > > teaching then a couple of DOD manufacturing companies working on SSB > > transmitters, Radar, Sonar and microwave., > > > > During the 70,s at work used the Apple II and later the Mac during the > > 80,ss and at that time started using the commodore 64 and Radio Shack 100 > > at home latter moving to the 128 and then building IBM clones from > parts > > bought at computer shows. Now all I do is just buy them ,too many as per > my > > wife. . > > > > Presently have a small collection of vintage computers around 25 which I > am > > sure is nothing compared to other members of the group. But I am looking > > forward to meeting others in the group who share my interest in vintage > > computers. > > > > My only other interests outside of family and grandchildren are short > wave > > radio and occasional riding on my Can Am trike. > > > > Regards > > Tom McNicholas > > Wall NJ > > > > > End of vcf-midatlantic Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12 > ********************************************** >

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Hello Introduction
by Tom McNicholas 12 Nov '18

12 Nov '18

Evan suggested I post a hello and background not sure of length or detail is the norm,, so here goes Retired a few years ago but still on the board of directors after a 45 year stint with a local electronics manufacturing company doing DOD work. during the 45 years did everything from testing, QA, engineering and plant manager Prior to the 45 year stint was in the USAF working on VHF, UHF and teaching then a couple of DOD manufacturing companies working on SSB transmitters, Radar, Sonar and microwave., During the 70,s at work used the Apple II and later the Mac during the 80,ss and at that time started using the commodore 64 and Radio Shack 100 at home latter moving to the 128 and then building IBM clones from parts bought at computer shows. Now all I do is just buy them ,too many as per my wife. . Presently have a small collection of vintage computers around 25 which I am sure is nothing compared to other members of the group. But I am looking forward to meeting others in the group who share my interest in vintage computers. My only other interests outside of family and grandchildren are short wave radio and occasional riding on my Can Am trike. Regards Tom McNicholas Wall NJ

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www locks out older browsers
by Jim Scheef 12 Nov '18

12 Nov '18

Hello all, After playing with an eMac running OS X 10.3 several months back, I let it sit for a few months. Now it can no longer open most common websites. So what changed while the machine was not even plugged in? After some investigation I realized that main-stream sites have changed their SSL to require TLS 1.2, mostly because it actually works. The result is that vintage browsers return an error similar to “cannot establish secure connection”. Forcing SSL by refusing to connect on port 80, these sites have locked out many vintage machines. So, what can be done? The obvious solution is to find a modern browser that runs on your vintage OS. This may require an OS upgrade (OS X 10.4 should run on the eMac) which allows running TenFourFox, which seems to include TLS 1.2. The irony that in the name of security, the machine used to invent the web (NeXT) may no longer be able to display it. Any thoughts? Jim

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Museum Report 18-11-11 November 11, 2018
by Jeffrey Brace 11 Nov '18

11 Nov '18

Good and steady busy day at the museum. About 2 dozen visitors in total today. In groups between 1 to 5 spread out throughout the day. Some of it was because of some World War I event in 9032-A, but mostly it was because it is cold day and this time of year things start to pick up again as people look for indoor things to do. Lots of nice visitors with medium to high interest. Some really knew their stuff. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation

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Vintage Server Racks FS or trade
by Jeffrey Golas 11 Nov '18

11 Nov '18

I have a vintage 1970s (or 60s?) server cabinet for sale. Good shape, blue filler panel on front and white panels on sides. Round hole, front panel can be removed. Breaker at bottom can be used as a power switch and is accesible from the front. Note that this is the rack only (anything else in pics is not for sale). Located in Blue Bell, PA (outside Philly) Best offer or trade for an interesting terminal or maybe s-100 boards? Pics here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cvohi2n8oog78tz/AACZBt9LiZPgTA-CZbGjD2dCa?dl=0 Jeff

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Oct 25 Entry: Re: Workshop on November 11th, 10am - 6pm, at System Source, Hunt Valley, MD
by J. Alexander Jacocks 11 Nov '18

11 Nov '18

Bill, Indeed, I got your email, but just got home from vacation, this past weekend. I'm thrilled that you can make it! With you, we have 10 confirmed attendees, and 1 maybe. - Alex On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:37 AM Bill Inderrieden via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Alex J.; > I responded to this request for last minute attendees "off list" on > Friday, so this is just a confirmation of that. I couldn't respond until > now when I knew definitively what my work schedule was going to be. > Looking forward to seeing everybody. > Bill Inderrieden > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 10:25:13 -0400 > From: "J. Alexander Jacocks" <jjacocks(a)gmail.com> > To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] Workshop on November 11th, 10am - 6pm, at > System Source, Hunt Valley, MD > > > > >

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Apollo AGC restoration
by Mike Loewen 10 Nov '18

10 Nov '18

Carl Claunch is in the process of restoring a Block II Apollo AGC! Start with this entry: https://rescue1130.blogspot.com/2018/10/studying-to-assist-in-restoration-o… Interesting stuff, to be sure. These guys are serious about their projects. Mike Loewen mloewen(a)cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

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Busy day
by Evan Koblentz 10 Nov '18

10 Nov '18

Lots of visitors today, including a group of 25 scouts/parents and several families. Jeff B. helped me out.

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Sunday Workshop - Anyone going back to the Museum before Festivus?
by Jason Perkins 10 Nov '18

10 Nov '18

I’ve got the NeXT slab & CRT that was donated to the museum. Is anyone coming to the workshop tomorrow that would be going by the Museum before Festivus? If so, could you relay it up for me? Thanks! -J -- Jason Perkins 313 355 0085 Sent from my iPhone

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Workshop Sunday, stuff for trade + more people
by Ethan O'Toole 10 Nov '18

10 Nov '18

Two friends of mine are also interested in the VCF workshop thing at system source. One might bring his Pet and another is going to ride along with me. Some stuff I have that I don't need that could use a home, trade, whatever. Speak now if interested. Things I guess I need: 1. S100 serial + rom monitor for IMSAI 8080 2. Newton 2100 power swich (plastic slider part) Up for grabs: Grabs to my VCF homies: 1. SCSI cables (Possibly 20+ different genders / types) 2. Serial cables (20+) 3. Amiga 5.25" floppy 4. Two Atari 1050 floppies, non working, retrobrited, no accessories 5. Apple IIGS CPU box, non working 6. Cisco 6506 chassis, large, with VPN accel, 48 port gigabit copper board, 16 port gigabit board that uses transceivers, 4 x long rage fiber transceivers included, CPU board, etc. 7. RJ45 patch panels (2), cable management thingy, etc. -- Evan gets first dibs for museum. For sale / trade: 7. Lot of Apple II software/hardware I have on craigslist, would discount for VCFers https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/sys/d/apple-ii-iigs-sw-hw/673701312… If anyone needs SCSI hard drives, speak up!!!!!!!!! 80 pin, 68 pin, 50 pin oh my! Same with SATA 1TB / 1.5TB

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VCF WORKSHOP signup
by Jeffrey Brace 09 Nov '18

09 Nov '18

One final date change: Mar. 23 & 24 is now Mar. 30 & 31. Here is the updated schedule of VCF Repair workshops for 2019: *January 12 & 13 : *< https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Vhb9sEi7ZjuQ6h_OK0EwCw-rR2xS0yO4N99… > *February 9 & 10:* < https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19jmTH0KaXLTvww9s_YDOafI6GeZIHD_J-su… > *March 30 & 31: *< https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1evfPzab05VheIsz5d5L5Ffp02ZxgmBTqXeb… > *April 13 & 14: *< https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uteU2ZAwlG0rwyRFuYfJwq_bVVilbL3ni7L… > -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation

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FESTIVUS SIGNUP 2018!
by Jeffrey Brace 09 Nov '18

09 Nov '18

Festivus signups are looking great! Lots more people signing up. :-) We are up to about 33 people. Let's keep it up. Here is the FESTIVUS signup: < https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CYLtFeyBlKwX7h2ohfXz421hFQjZTPPAkdV… > We ALSO need volunteers to sign up to be DOCENT for one hour. The holiday train show is that weekend and InfoAge will be quite busy. Here is the signup for that. DOCENT signup: < https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yyENBp9Oi2Cudkns4X9ssZc2usaGRYHQmbv… > Here is more information. *DATE:* December 1 & 2, 2018 *TIME:* Start about 10 A.M. on Saturday and goes late into the night until everyone sleeps. End about 5 P.M. on Sunday. (Re-starts around 10 A.M. Sunday morning) *LOCATION:* InfoAge Building 9010-D - (2201 Marconi Road, Wall Township, NJ) - It will be straight ahead once you enter through the gate. The door is marked Sandy Recovery and is up the steps. *PARKING:* InfoAge management wants us to park inside the campus, in a neat orderly row, between the Festivus building and the hackerspace building. The main parking lot remains available for guests of the model train show. Do not cost IA money by leaving it open to confuse paying guests. Always close it behind you when you enter/exit, EVEN IF IT WAS ALREADY OPEN! *COST:* $10 for all members attending Festivus, which VCF pays to InfoAge to rent the space and buy burgers, hot dogs and some supplies. $25 if you are staying overnight. See below for details. *EQUIPMENT:* VCF will have tables setup for food and games. We will have full sized refrigerators to temporarily store food and drinks. VCF had a grill donated and will buy a propane tank to cook hamburgers and hot dogs outside. *DRINKS:* Everyone is encouraged to bring their own drinks and enough to share with others. Bring your favorite and put what you are bringing on the list: *FOOD:* VCF will be supplying burgers, hot dogs, condiments, plates, forks, napkins, cups. You are encouraged to bring your own favorite good and put what you are bringing on the list. If you are not sure what to bring, then ask me. I will have some suggestions. *IMPORTANT TO KEEP FOOD AND DRINKS IN THE CAFETERIA! THIS IS THE RULE OF THE FACILITY OWNERS.* *ENTERTAINMENT?* Movies this year in the woman's bunk room. Ian: Vintage video games Jeff Brace: Commodore 64 games: 1) Bear, 2) 4 Player game, 3) PAL C64 to play European games/demos Cards Against Humanity! Vectrex Alex Jaccocks: C128 Games *STAYING OVERNIGHT?* Let me know if you want to stay overnight. The cost is $25. You provide your own mattress cover, blankets, pillows. There is a shower area, lounge, bunk beds, hot water for tea, microwave oven, toaster oven, keurig, coffee pot, ice machine, sink, cable TV, wi-fi. To get an accurate headcount, let me know as soon as possible that you are staying overnight and how many nights. There will be coffee, milk, cream, sugar and tea bags available as well. * SIGN-UP LINK:* < https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CYLtFeyBlKwX7h2ohfXz421hFQjZTPPAkdV… > *MAP WHERE TO PARK:* <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1i_2cgAqnjub4rYE922Cwki38Nsdt8cp_> *DOCENT SIGNUP:* < https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yyENBp9Oi2Cudkns4X9ssZc2usaGRYHQmbv… > -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation

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Museum Report 2018-11-04 November 4, 2018
by Jeffrey Brace 09 Nov '18

09 Nov '18

Bill Sudbrick stopped by on his trip back from a rescue. Donated a Weller soldering iron and a anti-static matt to VCF. He hadn't seen the museum for quite some time, so he looked at the updates. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation

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OT: Laptop wanted
by Evan Koblentz 09 Nov '18

09 Nov '18

I love my Chromebook, but sometimes I want a regular laptop. Dell Latitude E6510 isn't cutting it anymore. It's a brick and only has 4MB memory. I'm looking for something lighter with modern-ish specs. The software doesn't matter because I will wipe it and install Linux. Also, as inexpensive as possible... Anyone have something suitable? Please reply off-list.

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Supercomputer is all set!
by Evan Koblentz 08 Nov '18

08 Nov '18

I sent this message a few hours ago but it bounced somehow: Ian, Bill I., and myself all unloaded the VAX 9000 this morning. Diver Dan operated the forklift. A 28-foot trailer arrived here at 8am followed by another at 9am. There were 13 pallets on the first trailer and 12 on the second. Somehow, the space that we made in the warehouse yesterday and throughout the last few weeks was MORE than needed! We saved even more space after the delivery because Ian found a way to consolidate five of the new pallets onto others. Ian and I also discussed how to display at least part of the system in the museum. The simplest thing we can do is put the Cray YMP-EL back into storage and use the space for the 9000 main cabinet and maybe one peripheral cabinet. Side benefit: it would better match the StorageTek Timberwolf tape library than the Cray does. Here are some pictures: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1By6kUcofbhJfW6X3oMGOosStv85DPrpS/view?usp=… https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E-Q5xrsYXyjrZEZh92xIBhlStvvNUcRV/view?usp=… https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bEpSMzBEeOvuDnzPQ9Npc7iYmDhjZq8c/view?usp=… It took us a few pallets to get the hang of things this morning, but once we got going then everything went pretty well. There were no significant problems, just a couple of minor challenges that we solved on-the-fly, and no people/computers suffered any harm -- except our stomachs, which we cured with pizza. I can't wait to show this to you all in person at Festivus and beyond! Special thanks to our new best friends in Colorado and to the person who funded the transportation. ________________________________ Evan Koblentz, executive director Vintage Computer Federation a 501(c)(3) educational non-profit evan(a)vcfed.org (646) 546-9999 www.vcfed.org facebook.com/vcfederation twitter.com/vcfederation instagram.com/vcfederation

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Hello Introduction
by Richard Cini 08 Nov '18

08 Nov '18

Welcome to the group Tom! On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 11:27 AM Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > On Nov 8, 2018, at 11:01 AM, Tom McNicholas via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > Evan suggested I post a hello and background not sure of length or > detail > > is the norm,, so here goes > > Retired a few years ago but still on the board of directors after a 45 > > year stint with a local electronics manufacturing company doing DOD work. > > during the 45 years did everything from testing, QA, engineering and > plant > > manager Prior to the 45 year stint was in the USAF working on VHF, UHF > and > > teaching then a couple of DOD manufacturing companies working on SSB > > transmitters, Radar, Sonar and microwave., > > > > During the 70,s at work used the Apple II and later the Mac during the > > 80,ss and at that time started using the commodore 64 and Radio Shack 100 > > at home latter moving to the 128 and then building IBM clones from > parts > > bought at computer shows. Now all I do is just buy them ,too many as per > my > > wife. . > > > > Presently have a small collection of vintage computers around 25 which I > am > > sure is nothing compared to other members of the group. But I am looking > > forward to meeting others in the group who share my interest in vintage > > computers. > > > > My only other interests outside of family and grandchildren are short > wave > > radio and occasional riding on my Can Am trike. > > > > Regards > > Tom McNicholas > > Wall NJ > > Welcome Tom! I’m right down the road in Bricktown. Knowing your background > with VHF and SSB I may need to call on you to help when we have a problem > with those installed on our fishing boats!! (I wouldn’t do that, retirement > should be enjoyed!) > > It’s nice to see another enthusiast in the general area (and even closer > than I am to the museum!) > > My main interest is Apple IIs through the early compact Macs/Mac II > machines so any questions, items you’re looking for or help with machines > don’t hesitate to ask! > > Tony Bogan

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Supercomputer is all set!
by VAXman＠tmesis.org 08 Nov '18

08 Nov '18

Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> writes: > >I sent this message a few hours ago but it bounced somehow: > >Ian, Bill I., and myself all unloaded the VAX 9000 this morning. Diver >Dan operated the forklift. > >A 28-foot trailer arrived here at 8am followed by another at 9am. There >were 13 pallets on the first trailer and 12 on the second. > >Somehow, the space that we made in the warehouse yesterday and >throughout the last few weeks was MORE than needed! We saved even more >space after the delivery because Ian found a way to consolidate five of >the new pallets onto others. > >Ian and I also discussed how to display at least part of the system in >the museum. The simplest thing we can do is put the Cray YMP-EL back >into storage and use the space for the 9000 main cabinet and maybe one >peripheral cabinet. Side benefit: it would better match the StorageTek >Timberwolf tape library than the Cray does. > >Here are some pictures: > >https://drive.google.com/file/d/1By6kUcofbhJfW6X3oMGOosStv85DPrpS/view?usp=… > >https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E-Q5xrsYXyjrZEZh92xIBhlStvvNUcRV/view?usp=… > >https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bEpSMzBEeOvuDnzPQ9Npc7iYmDhjZq8c/view?usp=… > >It took us a few pallets to get the hang of things this morning, but >once we got going then everything went pretty well. There were no >significant problems, just a couple of minor challenges that we solved >on-the-fly, and no people/computers suffered any harm -- except our >stomachs, which we cured with pizza. > >I can't wait to show this to you all in person at Festivus and beyond! > >Special thanks to our new best friends in Colorado and to the person who >funded the transportation. Was this a system from DEC CSC? When is it getting hooked up and running?

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Anyone want some Centronics style parallel cables and switch box?
by Bob Applegate 07 Nov '18

07 Nov '18

I’ve got at least four of the Centronics cables and a four-to-one switchbox looking for a new home, or a trip to the local dump, whichever comes first. Email me if interested and I can box them up. Bob

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Small museum improvement
by Evan Koblentz 07 Nov '18

07 Nov '18

Joe W. from IXR gave us a 26" LCD. It's an upgrade from the 22" one we had before.

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Carpool to Baltimore for workshop?
by Evan Koblentz 07 Nov '18

07 Nov '18

I can take three people now that I've got a normal-sized car! Rather go with others because it passes the time faster and saves on gas/costs.

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SS Gathering on Sunday, any IMSAI people?
by Ethan O'Toole 07 Nov '18

07 Nov '18

Howdy, I am planning to make the trip up on the 11th to System Source for the gathering. Anyone familiar with IMSAI systems going to be there? I have one that I've never gotten fully running. I'd like to try to make a little progress if possible. - Ethan

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Supercomputer incoming! Wednesday ultra-early
by VAXman＠tmesis.org 07 Nov '18

07 Nov '18

Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> writes: > >Good day today! > >I got here at 10am. Did a bunch of warehouse space-making. Bill I. >helped from noon to 5pm. More space-making! Steve A. came over to >install more ceiling lights right after Bill left. Very handy! We've >needed more lights in the warehouse for a long time. Steve left 10 >minutes ago. Jeff B. is coming by soon to clear more things. > >Ian is coming soon too. He and I are both staying overnight for the >early delivery tomorrow. Bill I. will come back for that too, and Dan >from the shipwreck group will operate the forklift. We have two pallet >jacks ready (VCF's and one of IA's) plus full propane tanks if the >forklift runs out. > >It's been a super day so far :) and tomorrow we get our .... < drum roll >please > ... VAX 9440. This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius! I'd love to drop by to help out, but I recently slipped and, as a result, my bad knee has gone from bad to worse. I foresee the Frankenstein scar over my patella in the not too distant future.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Supercomputer incoming! Wednesday ultra-early
by VAXman＠tmesis.org 07 Nov '18

07 Nov '18

"J. Alexander Jacocks via vcf-midatlantic" writes: >Brian, > >The scars are MUCH smaller than they used to be. I had a complete ACL >replacement, 2 years ago, and I just have 2 little laparoscopy scars. A knee is a bit more complicated. Anyway, I'd love to have helped with that Aquarius today but the pain is excessive, especially when bearing weigh, so I would only have been an in-the-way curiosity seeker.

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Supercomputer incoming! Wednesday ultra-early
by Evan Koblentz 06 Nov '18

06 Nov '18

Supercomputer arrived earlier than expected! Truck will be at the museum 7am sharp on Wednesday. They said it's 25 pallets. YIKES We made a lot of warehouse space but I'm going tomorrow and will clear as much extra space as possible. I will probably have to temporarily abandon some of our aisles and move racks together, making certain things inaccessible for a while. If anyone is available tomorrow afternoon/night or bright/early Wednesday, then let me know ASAP. Send me off-list replies only. (And for the love of cyber-gods, don't post about "I wish I could help but" or "I'll try to" .... firm commitments only please.)

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Festivus request: your favorite Ragooman images/video
by Evan Koblentz 05 Nov '18

05 Nov '18

I'm making a presentation for Saturday night at Festivus. Send me links/attachments (off-list, please) of your favorite images/video of Dan Roganti.

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Another new toy (Laser 128 expansion card)
by Evan Koblentz 05 Nov '18

05 Nov '18

A2heaven.com announced a reproduction Laser 128 expansion card last month. VCF got one from the first batch. It arrived today, check it out: https://tinyurl.com/y9ze7ggb I'm more excited about this than about the supercomputer. :) ________________________________ Evan Koblentz, executive director Vintage Computer Federation a 501(c)(3) educational non-profit evan(a)vcfed.org (646) 546-9999 www.vcfed.org facebook.com/vcfederation twitter.com/vcfederation instagram.com/vcfederation

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] "Super" sneak peek!
by Evan Koblentz 05 Nov '18

05 Nov '18

On the move! Our "super" new artifact started its trip in Colorado Springs and is now in Kansas City, awaiting its next leg eastward. To pass the time, here's another SUPER COMPUTER tale: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFifjeF6Oyw In which Super Grover "helps" fix a little girl's computer, and it works, despite his best efforts. )

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Oct 25 Entry: Re: Workshop on November 11th, 10am - 6pm, at System Source, Hunt Valley, MD
by svcatitc＠aol.com 05 Nov '18

05 Nov '18

Alex J.; I responded to this request for last minute attendees "off list" on Friday, so this is just a confirmation of that. I couldn't respond until now when I knew definitively what my work schedule was going to be. Looking forward to seeing everybody. Bill Inderrieden Message: 1 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 10:25:13 -0400 From: "J. Alexander Jacocks" <jjacocks(a)gmail.com> To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] Workshop on November 11th, 10am - 6pm, at System Source, Hunt Valley, MD

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Urgent! Festivus docents needed! Help!
by Jeffrey Brace 04 Nov '18

04 Nov '18

Since there is the holiday train show, VCF needs docents in the museum from 12 to 5pm Saturday and Sunday. Who can help me? Signup here: < https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yyENBp9Oi2Cudkns4X9ssZc2usaGRYHQmbv… > -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President Vintage Computer Federation

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Museum report
by Evan Koblentz 03 Nov '18

03 Nov '18

We only had two visitors today, but they were good ones. Tom M. (age 81!) is a new member on this list; he's been to VCF East and lives near InfoAge. He got the full tour. Then another visitor, 31, took an even longer tour and asked tons of good questions. So it was busy today despite low overall attendance.

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"Super" sneak peek!
by Evan Koblentz 03 Nov '18

03 Nov '18

Here's a little teaser picture of the computer being delivered to VCF headquarters in early November. https://tinyurl.com/y7lnzwqs I am still not saying what it is, but it's not just any computer, it's "super"!!! :) And: we're sharing with friends. There are two EXTRA of these computers, which we redirected to friends-of-VCF .... stay tuned in November for details. :)

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