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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] 5.25 floppy reader & writer adapter
by Bart Hirst 13 Jul '24

13 Jul '24

Just a heads-up, 5 1/4 drives aren’t supported by DiskFlashback yet, but it’s planned On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 11:38 AM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Now this software may be useful to me I will look into it. Thank you very > much. > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Jul 12, 2024, at 11:31 AM, David Ryskalczyk via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > Check out DiskFlashback. It can be used with a Greaseweazle or other > hardware to do exactly this. > > https://robsmithdev.co.uk/diskflashback > > > > David > > > >>> On Jul 12, 2024, at 10:18 AM, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> On 7/12/24 09:57, Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > >>> One thing I have never understood is why no one has designed and built > >>> a 5.25” floppy drive to USB adapter? > >>> (Like the 3.5” ones see all over.) > >>> Maybe for a Newer PC to Read and Write . > >> > >> Because such a thing would be of limited utility. You could read and > write disks that have one sector format, like the 3.5" versions. They > cannot handle arbitrary sector formats like most real floppy controller > chips with direct access to their configuration registers. > >> > >> One way to deal with this is the Greaseweazle, but that's a pretty > specialized disk imaging tool that requires some knowledge to be able to > use properly. It's not "plug and play" write-me-an-Amiga-disk or whatever, > and it's not intended to be. > >> > >> -Dave > >> > >> -- > >> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ > >> New Kensington, PA > > -- Bart Hirst "This signature will now be eaten up and spit out by Velociraptors."

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] 5.25 floppy reader & writer adapter
by Dave McGuire 13 Jul '24

13 Jul '24

On 7/12/24 09:57, Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > One thing I have never understood is why no one has designed and built > a 5.25” floppy drive to USB adapter? > (Like the 3.5” ones see all over.) > Maybe for a Newer PC to Read and Write . Because such a thing would be of limited utility. You could read and write disks that have one sector format, like the 3.5" versions. They cannot handle arbitrary sector formats like most real floppy controller chips with direct access to their configuration registers. One way to deal with this is the Greaseweazle, but that's a pretty specialized disk imaging tool that requires some knowledge to be able to use properly. It's not "plug and play" write-me-an-Amiga-disk or whatever, and it's not intended to be. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ
by Gregg Levine 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

Hello! I resemble that remark. Teletypes were useful before computers were around to complain about the unit having worse handwriting than the people. Now why is the velociraptor trying to open the doors on building 9015? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8(a)gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 3:23 PM Brian L. Stuart via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 01:28:02PM -0400, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > > Bill, you could not be more wrong. Windows XP was the first computer. A visitor to LSSM told me that a while back. I was so relieved, as that meant I didn't have to deal with these huge heavy boxes anymore. > > > > -Dave > > So I got Computer Science degrees before there were computers? > Cool! That means my time travel experiments do work in the > future...or the past...or sometime. > > BLS >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ
by Bill Degnan 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

The ASR 32 and 33 differ in only a few places many parts are interchangeable. The 33 is the "free terminal" that came with many minicomputers od the 60s like a keyboard and mouse comes with todays' Dell computer. The early homebrew era computers often used asr33 teletypes as the terminal and program storage. That's why a computer hobbyist might want the parts from a free asr32 to use for repairs of a 33. Bill On Fri, Jul 12, 2024, 3:22 PM m simons via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Now I'm curious... what are the "useful parts"? And what would one use > them for? > > On Friday, July 12, 2024 at 12:42:35 PM EDT, Bill Degnan via > vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Also has useful parts. > b > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 12:37 PM Ian Litchfield via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > My thoughts exactly. The M32 can be used for RTTY or interfacing to an > > earlier electromechanical system. Doesn’t need to be a computer. > > > > Adapters can also be fabricated to translate the Baudot into ASCII as > well. > > > > At the end of the day though it’s free, if you get it can you really > > complain? Tinker with it and if it’s not your cup of tea, pass it on to > > someone who will enjoy it! > > > > -Ian L. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 11:56 W2HX via vcf-midatlantic < > > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > > Ethan, I'm pretty sure your M15 and your M32 can talk to each other. > Make > > > sure to wire the M32 selector magnets in parallel for 60mA loop vs > series > > > for 20mA loop and run the loop directly to the selector magnets (I > don't > > > recall if the M32 has a LESU or not). > > > > > > > > > 73 Eugene W2HX > > > My Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces(a)lists.vcfed.org> On > > Behalf > > > Of Ethan Dicks via vcf-midatlantic > > > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2024 11:22 AM > > > To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > > > Cc: Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks(a)gmail.com> > > > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 8:45 AM W2HX via vcf-midatlantic < > > > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > I'm surprised there is so much interest in a baudot machine. > > > > > > Me too. I have one, and I only got it because I also happen to have a > > > Model 15, not that they can talk to each other (being free for the cost > > of > > > gas was an essential point - I wouldn't have paid $$$ for it) > > > > > > -ethan > > > > > > >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ
by Dave McGuire 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

It was a joke, son, I say, I say, a joke! -Dave On July 12, 2024 1:34:25 PM "Hopkins, Justin via vcf-midatlantic" <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > ---------- > RE: [vcf-midatlantic] Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ > From: Hopkins, Justin Justin.Hopkins(a)broadridge.com > Date: Jul 12, 1:34 PM > To: vcf-midatlantic vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org > > Yet every IBM mainframe still uses EBCDIC 60 years after it was introduced….. > > > From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces(a)lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf Of Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2024 1:28 PM > To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > Cc: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ > > On July 12, 2024 11: 47: 06 AM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@ lists. vcfed. org> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 11: 38 AM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic@ lists. vcfed. org> wrote: >> > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > This Message Is From an External Sender > This message came from outside your organization. > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > > On July 12, 2024 11:47:06 AM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org<mailto:vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org>> wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 11:38 AM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < > >> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org<mailto:vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org>> wrote: > >>> On July 12, 2024 11:22:06 AM Ethan Dicks via vcf-midatlantic < > >>> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org<mailto:vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org>> wrote: > >>>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 8:45 AM W2HX via vcf-midatlantic > >>>> <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org<mailto:vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org>> wrote: > >>>>> I'm surprised there is so much interest in a baudot machine. > >>>> > >>>> Me too. I have one, and I only got it because I also happen to have a > >>>> Model 15, not that they can talk to each other (being free for the > >>>> cost of gas was an essential point - I wouldn't have paid $$$ for it) > >>> > >>> Not all Teletype applications involve computers, or computers that speak > >>> ASCII. > >>> > >> Are you sure because the first PC, the IBM PC from the 1980's I think uses > >> ascii I think. > > > > Bill, you could not be more wrong. Windows XP was the first computer. A visitor to LSSM told me that a while back. I was so relieved, as that meant I didn't have to deal with these huge heavy boxes anymore. > > > > -Dave > > > > -- > > Dave McGuire, AK4HZ > > New Kensington, PA > > > > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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PDP 8i for sale on Ebay, dutch auction style
by Bill Degnan 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

https://www.ebay.com/itm/156283513230 (read comments on how the auction works). b

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Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ
by Joseph Giliberti 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

https://www.facebook.com/share/11jE1jTgu59WGeT8/?mibextid=kL3p88

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Launch of the Classical Computing Laboratory at IBM Poughkeepsie
by Dave McGuire 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

Wow, celebrities in our midst! REXX is fantastic, you did amazing work on that. Your book occupies a prominent spot on my shelves, and we've a copy of it at LSSM as well for use by guests. Speaking of which, you should come out to visit LSSM at some point. We have running S/390 and ES/9000 machines, and some S/370 projects in the works. (not to mention all the DEC machines you've ever heard of, iron from HP, Varian, Cray, Modcomp, Sun, SGI, you name it. Complete, real, non-emulated machines with real peripherals, making the power company happy every day. A visit from your redoubtable self would be a great honor to our group. -Dave On 7/8/24 11:54, Mike Cowlishaw wrote: > :-) 'twasn't a port .. I wrote it from scratch, I believe. Still have > INV.PLI :-) > > Mike > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dan FitzGerald [mailto:danjfitzgerald@comcast.net] >> Sent: 08 July 2024 16:08 >> To: vcf-midatlantic >> Cc: Dave McGuire >> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Launch of the Classical >> Computing Laboratory at IBM Poughkeepsie >> >> Most of the equipment in the lab belongs to Connor Krukosky; >> the PC Portable, PCjr, and the dot matrix printers are mine. >> I also did the VM/ESA configuration (I run the IBM CIO's z/VM >> sysprog team) while Connor did the P390 and terminal hardware >> configuration. He also restored the IBM Memory Typewriter >> and repaired the (previously >> professionally-restored) IBM Correcting Selectric II. >> >> Connor most definitely lifted the F50 up onto that table, but >> we also have furniture dollies and a nice collapsing cart. >> >> Fun fact: the VM/CMS port of Space Invaders was done by a >> young Mike Cowlishaw, who developed the Rexx language. >> >> Regards, >> Dan FitzGerald >> They/Them or She/Her >> Classical Computing Laboratory at IBM Poughkeepsie >> http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/dfitzger >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf- >> midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> >> Reply-To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> >> To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> >> Cc: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> >> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Launch of the Classical >> Computing Laboratory at IBM Poughkeepsie >> Date: 07/08/2024 10:19:50 AM >> > -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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German Navy replaces 8" drives in Frigates
by Neil Cherry 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

Japan just got rid of their dependence on floppies. Seems Germany has decided to get with the times. Article suggest that they are using a floppy emulator. https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/german-navy-aims-to-repl… Herb and I have been discuss something similar for the last few weeks. I'm adding a floppy emulator to my Peripheral Technologies PT69-5A and PT68K2s. Getting the files from Linux/DOS/Windows to the disk image has been an interesting challenge. And getting the images from the real floppy to the image files another adventure. Still working on that one. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry kd2zrq(a)linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies KD2ZRQ

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5.25 floppy reader & writer adapter
by Sentrytv 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

One thing I have never understood is why no one has designed and built a 5.25” floppy drive to USB adapter? (Like the 3.5” ones see all over.) Maybe for a Newer PC to Read and Write . Yes, I know the newer OS’s do not support 5.25” Floppy formats any longer. Yes, I know one is available to read floppies only. BUT, I would just plug a USB adapter into my XP laptop and use it. Easy Peasy It would be so convenient wouldn’t it? Any up to the challenge? Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > On Jul 12, 2024, at 9:42 AM, Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Japan just got rid of their dependence on floppies. Seems Germany has decided > to get with the times. Article suggest that they are using a floppy emulator. > > https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/german-navy-aims-to-repl… > > Herb and I have been discuss something similar for the last few weeks. > I'm adding a floppy emulator to my Peripheral Technologies PT69-5A > and PT68K2s. > > Getting the files from Linux/DOS/Windows to the disk image has been an > interesting challenge. And getting the images from the real floppy to > the image files another adventure. Still working on that one. > > -- > Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry kd2zrq(a)linuxha.com > http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site > http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog > Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies KD2ZRQ

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Apple //e, //+, //c boot disks
by Jeffrey Brace 11 Jul '24

11 Jul '24

Does anyone have time to make and mail some boot disks to someone in Oklahoma? I'm really busy over the next 2 to 3 weeks and don't have time to do it in the museum. Let me know and I will share his contact info with you. Thanks! Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner VCF Mid-Atlantic Event Manager Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Launch of the Classical Computing Laboratory at IBM Poughkeepsie
by Dan FitzGerald 11 Jul '24

11 Jul '24

TLDR; Flickr link at bottom. After two years of work and a mountain of red tape, Connor Krukosky and I are proud to announce the official opening of the Classical Computing Laboratory at IBM Poughkeepsie! The Classical Computing Laboratory (sometimes shortened to POK-CCL or CCL@POK) is a historical computing center accessible to IBM employees and official site visitors, with the stated goal of our collection being available for hands-on use. IBMers can come in and use the equipment between the hours of 12 and 2 PM every Wednesday, or by special appointment. This presents a number of amazing potential opportunities, ranging from employee experience to education outreach to client/customer relations. We officially opened this past Wednesday, June 26 as part of the annual IBM MHV (Mid-Hudson Valley) Summer Activities Fair; we then continued into the next day for IBM MHV Take Our Children to Work Day. I've put together a Flickr album of photos that Connor and I took during the two events. In all but two cases, I framed the photos to keep visitors' faces obscured -- the important thing to me is seeing people having fun with these machines and using them. Here is the equipment we currently have available to use: 3193 Display Station 3278 Display Station 3279 Display Station 3290 Information Panel 5251 Display Station 5510 Computing System AT/370 (5170-599) Correcting Selectric II Memory Typewriter PC Graphics Printer (5152) PCjr (4675-007) Personal Printer Series II (2390) Portable Personal Computer (5155) PS/2 Model 25 Color (8525-004) PS/2 Model 56sx (8556) PS/2 Model 57sx (8557) PS/2 Model 80 (8580) RT/PC (6150) RS/6000 Server F50 (7025-F50) S/390 Integrated Server (3006) System/36 "Compact 36" (5362) https://www.flickr.com/gp/200991657@N06/9XH55N361M Regards, Dan FitzGerald They/Them or She/Her Classical Computing Laboratory at IBM Poughkeepsie http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/dfitzger

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Launch of the Classical Computing Laboratory at IBM Poughkeepsie
by Herbert Johnson 10 Jul '24

10 Jul '24

Very nice office facility, a likely original setting for most of the equipment displayed. The 5100 caught my eye, what features, how operational? Do you have a Selectric terminal on site? I used one in the era for SPICE simulation under TSO on some campus 360. Good to see some other printing technology. Regards Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey USA https://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing

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Sussex County Hamfest this Sunday (7/14)
by Kelly Leavitt 09 Jul '24

09 Jul '24

https://www.scarcnj.org/downloads/hamfest%20flyer.pdf The 2024 SCARC Hamfest will be held July 14th 2024 Gates open at 6:00am for sellers/tailgaters 8:00am for buyers 270,000 square feet (Six Plus Acres!) of outdoor tailgate space and 10,000 square feet of indoor space. Food, Door Prizes and Ample Parking too! For info or tables contact SCARC at 973-862-8124 I'll be in the kitchen again. Hope to see you there. 73 de Kelly KE2L

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Bruce Bastian, a Founder of WordPerfect, Is Dead at 76
by Christian Liendo 04 Jul '24

04 Jul '24

This is a free article from the times. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/02/business/bruce-bastian-dead.html?unlocke…

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Northern VA Vintage Computer Meetup Wrapup notes
by Jeff Salzman 02 Jul '24

02 Jul '24

I may have to consider a visit sometime. If it's a meet to showcase a distinctive array of vintage systems, I might need to bring my Panasonic JR-200U for a showing. Perhaps even a Tomy Tutor. On Mon, Jul 1, 2024, 3:31 PM Ryan Stapleton via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Hello All, > > I wanted to do a little writeup from the Vintage Computer Meetup I held > Sunday. > > Here is a link to a little blog post I did: > https://www.bluewizard.net/pages/vintagecomputermeetup-30jun2024/ > > Short answer it was successful in a way I would have never expected! 30 > people attended and I think 20 different computers where on display! > > This has greatly re-enforced the support that the community provides and > it was a success because of this awesome community. > > I am looking forward to the next one in the September / October time > frame. No exact date yet due to how scheduling works with the library. > > Thank you > -Ryan > > >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Minimum requirements for receiving 56K modem connections
by David Waybright 01 Jul '24

01 Jul '24

First the i-modem is a digital ISDN modem. It can not talk to a analog modem, There is a way to make 2 ISDN devices talk without an active line like you did with the analog modems, I did it in my Cisco CCNA class but don't remember how we did it. The analog phone line modems can be used the way you did by connecting them together with a phone line and dialing with the ignore ring tone on one modem and ATA on the other modem. As far as I know there is no middle equipment needed for an analog modem connection. I do remember the newest analog 56k modems had stupid drivers and were soft win modems as in no firmware on the modem, it was loaded by the driver and only worked with windows. I think you have to tell the modems to actually do 56k not just dial and ATA. or you might just need to reset the settings on the modem, it might be set to 36k. Also, if it's an external 56k modem you need to adjust your serial speed on the serial port. This is the speed the port talks to the modem and the modem talks to the port. This is separate from the speeds the 2 modems are set at to talk to each other! Thanks, David Eugene Waybright CompTIA A+, NET+, & Security+ Technician Crestron Certified CIV-E Intelligent Video Engineer, CIV-D Intelligent Video Designer & CIV-S Intelligent Video Specialist Crestron Certified Masters Technology Architect; Core, Flex, DMC-D-4K & E-4K, SCT-R & C, DCT-R & C, TCT-R & C AVMM Engineer; Audio & Shades Technician Extron Certified A/V Associate IT Operations & Secure Infrastructure Specialist Tesla Referral Code: https://ts.la/david55244 Please use my referral for a free demo drive, also $500 Off + 3 mo. FSD on Model 3 & Y, $1,000 Off + 3 mo. FSD on Model S & X, & $500 Off Solar TeslaFi Referral Code: https://www.teslafi.com/signup.php?referred=Dwaybright receive a one-month trial instead of two weeks. Tessie Referral Code: https://share.tessie.com/QpzcnbTb5yb receive one month free when you sign up. ChargePoint Home Pro, CPF25, CPF50, CPH50, CT4000, CP6000, OnRamp, Express 100, 200,& 250 Certified Technician [cid:dd55fead-1863-4241-850b-86370a2821c0]<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/0f52d73c69ad43ffb4490b6e75ed0de2…> Book time to meet with me<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/0f52d73c69ad43ffb4490b6e75ed0de2…> ________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:00:34 -0400 From: John Heritage <john.heritage(a)gmail.com> To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] Minimum requirements for receiving 56K modem connections Message-ID: <CAF5f3Ugj-71Uh153yDyj7amvPVsS0wH186DykcRsQz-ZYyiOfg(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi folks! I'm messing around with a bunch of modems at home, and would like to know what's required to set up one system to receive 56K calls from another system. I'm able to get 33.6kbps bi-directionally (or 31.2K) with just a phone line between the two modems, and using ATX1D and ATA commands. I think to get 56K I require some equipment to simulate a digital connection, and I'm also not sure if a 56K analog modem can even receive 56K calls. Is this true? Modems I have on hand: - a USRobotics Courier I-Modem - 2 x USRobotics V.Everything, and a USRobotics 56K/X2 Sportster external modem I am also unable to get the I-Modem to connect to any of the analog modems, and although it does have the protocols to support analog, it seems like it's expecting a BRI / ISDN connection to allow that connection. Is this true? If the above are true - what's the minimum / cheapest solution for being able to at least establish a V.90 connection given the equipment I have already? Thanks for your help! John ------------------------------

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Northern VA Vintage Computer Meetup Wrapup notes
by Ethan O'Toole 01 Jul '24

01 Jul '24

Whoot wish I was in town! Heard it was a good event! On Mon, 1 Jul 2024, Ryan Stapleton via vcf-midatlantic wrote: [NON-Text Body part not included]

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PET 2001 and DEC Rainbow 100B2
by Ricardo 8-Bit Desk 01 Jul '24

01 Jul '24

I just stopped by an antique store here in my area (NJ) and there is a fully working PET 2001 that the guy wants $750. I am not getting it but I hate to see it there on the shelf. Anyone in the group interested? There is also a DEC Rainbow 100-B2 complete (keyboard and monitor included) and I offered $250. The guy didn’t return yet but I might not take if he goes too much above that. In that case, I will also pass to the group. Anyone interested? Ricardo. Sent from my iPhone

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Northern VA Vintage Computer Meetup Wrapup notes
by Ryan Stapleton 01 Jul '24

01 Jul '24

Hello All, I wanted to do a little writeup from the Vintage Computer Meetup I held Sunday. Here is a link to a little blog post I did: https://www.bluewizard.net/pages/vintagecomputermeetup-30jun2024/ Short answer it was successful in a way I would have never expected! 30 people attended and I think 20 different computers where on display! This has greatly re-enforced the support that the community provides and it was a success because of this awesome community. I am looking forward to the next one in the September / October time frame. No exact date yet due to how scheduling works with the library. Thank you -Ryan

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] [OT] Very OT…desperately seeking data
by David Gesswein 01 Jul '24

01 Jul '24

On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 06:59:32AM +0000, laurakid via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 06:59:32 +0000 (UTC) > From: laurakid <laurakid7(a)yahoo.com> > To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > Subject: [OT] Very OT…desperately seeking data > X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22407 YahooMailIosMobile > The subject of asking for help with data recovery has resurfaced because I have a smashed iPhone (long story) with port and buttons still working but screen useless, It is frustrating me that Apple is saying there is absolutely no way to get data off of this device. I know the password, I just can’t type it in. I refuse to pay for iCloud and unfortunately was not consistent with backups. I had an anroid with broken screen so nothing was visible but touchscreen was still working. I took a photo of same model keyboard and taped it to the broken screen so I knew where the key were. With a couple tries was able to type the password in and recover the stuff since the last backup.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] [OT] Very OT…desperately seeking data
by Ethan O'Toole 01 Jul '24

01 Jul '24

[NON-Text Body part not included] You can, but I believe you need to type your code on the screen of the phone for the sync. Depending on the age of iOS there might be exploits for it but who knows. Never said what model, but I remembering changing out the screen on my iPhone SE a number of times and it wasn't terribly difficult. But I had a backup. Also if you have 64GB of stuff on the phone it's going to eat 64GB of disk space. Not always an issue but with todays SSD/NVME laptops and expensive storage it can suck. Tip, on itunes when you create a backup turn on backup encryption if you want passwords and cookies and stuff to persist in a restore.

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VMS/VAX Data Retrieval Business Opportunity
by Bill Degnan 01 Jul '24

01 Jul '24

Hello all This is OT as far as being a hobby post, but OnT as it's related to VMS data recovery requiring vintage VAXes I have a business opportunity for someone who has working VAX hardware who can read/recover/transfer data from VMS DLT tapes and other backup storage Contact me through my company contact form, degnanco.com/contact.cfm A person from the Phildelphia/S Jersey are preferred as this is a pretty big job and the media is located near Philadelphia. Thanks Bill Degnan

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] [OT] Very OT…desperately seeking data
by Christian Liendo 01 Jul '24

01 Jul '24

There is a lot of info missing so I apologize if I recommend something that you may not want. If the screen is the issue it can be replaced and there are many places that do this. I understand that you may not want to repair a phone that you don't intend to keep but if it gives you the functionality you need to get your data it may be worth it. The value of the data exceeds the cost of repair in my opinion. Also then this can be your backup phone. On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 3:00 AM laurakid via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Hey guys. I have been MIA but not by choice. Hope to hit up a workshop soon and am always open to volunteer. Anyways, I have mentioned to some of you in the past about my troubles with older machines, lost passwords, compatibility issues and such… this post is definitely going to require more info but honestly I have been worried about asking for help since Evan left, who had encouraged me to ask since I had helped so much back in 2018. The subject of asking for help with data recovery has resurfaced because I have a smashed iPhone (long story) with port and buttons still working but screen useless, It is frustrating me that Apple is saying there is absolutely no way to get data off of this device. I know the password, I just can’t type it in. I refuse to pay for iCloud and unfortunately was not consistent with backups. > I am interested in any advice about this including if there is a reputable person or company I can pay to help with this all along with other data recovery. I am located in Eatontown NJ very near most highways. > Many thanks, Laura Reinhard (The girl who painted the wood grey 😆).732-456-0154

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF Tech Swap Meet
by Jeffrey Jonas 28 Jun '24

28 Jun '24

> I was a regular at TCF Jeff Galinat was a regular dealer too! I was just an attendee/buyer. I got fun free swag thanks to everyone's generosity. The Free Pile's a lot nicer than the traditional dumpster diving at TCF. -- jeff jonas

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Reminder: Vintage Computer Meetup in Northern VA - 30 June @ 2pm
by Bob Flanders 28 Jun '24

28 Jun '24

See you there! On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 2:14 PM Ryan Stapleton via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Thank you for letting me know about the permission issue. That has now > been corrected. Oops. > > Would love to have ya but totally understand what it is like being double > or triple booked… > > Thanks > -Ryan > > > On Jun 28, 2024, at 2:06 PM, Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > fly was "forbidden" when I attempted to download. > > > > I'd like to go, but I have another vintage computing-related thing then > > > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 1:42 PM Ryan Stapleton via vcf-midatlantic < > > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > >> Hello All, > >> > >> I wanted to send out a reminder for my Vintage Computer Meetup in > >> Chantilly, VA this Sunday @ pm. > >> > >> I look forward to seeing some old friends and making some new ones. > >> > >> I have added a flyer to my web page I tossed together quickly along > with a > >> link to VCF for information. > >> > >> Thank you > >> -Ryan > >> > >> https://www.bluewizard.net/pages/vintagecomputermeetup/ > >> > >> > >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Reminder: Vintage Computer Meetup in Northern VA - 30 June @ 2pm
by Bill Degnan 28 Jun '24

28 Jun '24

fly was "forbidden" when I attempted to download. I'd like to go, but I have another vintage computing-related thing then On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 1:42 PM Ryan Stapleton via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Hello All, > > I wanted to send out a reminder for my Vintage Computer Meetup in > Chantilly, VA this Sunday @ pm. > > I look forward to seeing some old friends and making some new ones. > > I have added a flyer to my web page I tossed together quickly along with a > link to VCF for information. > > Thank you > -Ryan > > https://www.bluewizard.net/pages/vintagecomputermeetup/ > >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF Flea Market
by Bob Shuster 28 Jun '24

28 Jun '24

I’ll echo everyone else’s sentiments - it was good to see the few folks I knew there, but dang was it hot! We should rename it “Swap Melt”. In any case, I just finished updating my webpages with the sold items marked off, but there’s still plenty left! (theshusters.com/bobvintage.html) - *Please* feel free to make offers - I promise I won't be insulted. Nobody wants this TRS-80 Model 4? I was really hoping to not bring it home, but alas… Also the Wang WLTC is still available. Lots of people thought it was cool, but none interested enough to take it home! - Bob Shuster

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Reminder: Vintage Computer Meetup in Northern VA - 30 June @ 2pm
by Ryan Stapleton 28 Jun '24

28 Jun '24

Hello All, I wanted to send out a reminder for my Vintage Computer Meetup in Chantilly, VA this Sunday @ pm. I look forward to seeing some old friends and making some new ones. I have added a flyer to my web page I tossed together quickly along with a link to VCF for information. Thank you -Ryan https://www.bluewizard.net/pages/vintagecomputermeetup/

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Ages of PC based software
by Gregg Levine 27 Jun '24

27 Jun '24

Hello! I am again trying one of my blue sky ideas, one to work on between right now, and again of the next repair weekend. That will be onsite. Would any of you good people remember the time period for a representative OS for when we can call it a Vintage Operating system? Last time I checked it was 1995. No velociraptor, he is visiting relatives in California, and Oregon and WA. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8(a)gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

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VCF Tech Swap Meet Nov 2, please let your friends and groups know.
by Christian Liendo 27 Jun '24

27 Jun '24

So, I know this happens every time but as we get closer to the next swap meet we get told. My group has an event and they conflict. Can you please let the groups you belong to know about the event. This should reduce the chance of a conflict and it will also drum up interest. https://vcfed.org/vcf-swap-meet/ We would like the next swap meet to be bigger and it would help to start getting the word out now. Thanks

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Straight 8 repair at workshop
by David Gesswein 27 Jun '24

27 Jun '24

Decided to post to the forum this time so I can add some bad pictures to my excessive text. Summary fixed one intermittent and at least one still remains. Made progress on enabling A/D converter but not yet working. Machine was working with all demos checked when I left. https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/vcf-straight-8-repair.1248709/ You you have opinions you can let me know 1) Prefer text postings 2) Pictures were nice 3) Why filling my inbox with this stuff 4) I was hoping for an hour youtube video For docents let me know if the front panel now works reliably. I put in a card to better debounce the switches. If you get funny running put in this little program 0: 3006 1: 7200 2: 1006 3: 2006 4: 5001 Which is 0: DCA 6 1: CLA 2: TAD 6 3: ISZ 6 4: JMP 1 5: HLT If it halts its not the last intermittent I had. If it doesn't let me know what bits in the AC are changing/dimly lit and what is solid on/off. You can then try running hand across processor (right) side wirewrap pins C and D row and see if that makes it halt. If it doesn't you can wiggle each R211 card up and down slightly in its socket and see if one makes it halt. If it does let me know which card wiggling changed behavior. Cards are numbered starting with 1 from the right side looking at the card handles. If it keeps halting you can try demos again.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF Tech Swap Meet
by Bob Shuster 27 Jun '24

27 Jun '24

My take on the event: I did ok financially, but I brought a ton of stuff with me (3 SUVs full.) My goal was not necessarily to make money but to down-size the collection which I was only moderately successful at achieving. I’m not sure I would do another of these, especially not in summer again, and I don’t think I’ll be able to convince my wife and daughter to help again! I had too much stuff to properly display it all, so I think that affected my sales, but ultimately it was the heat and lack of buyers that had the biggest effect. But overall I was happy that some of my collection is in new hands. I gave quite a bit away and I reduced the footprint of the remaining items somewhat. I’ll be busy reorganizing for a while, then all goes back into storage. Any interest in anything, please let me know - I’d even be willing to meet somewhere if necessary. Bob Shuster http://theshusters.com/bobvintage.html > I have the final totals for buyers: > 183 buyers > 175 Buyers paid buyers (13 and older) > 8 Buyers non-paid (12 and younger) > > By the way, it is called "VCF Tech Swap Meet" not "Flea Market". An > important distinction that we settled on years ago to make it sound more > than just a free for all of all types of items.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF Flea Market
by Jeffrey Brace 26 Jun '24

26 Jun '24

I have the final totals for buyers: 183 buyers 175 Buyers paid buyers (13 and older) 8 Buyers non-paid (12 and younger) By the way, it is called "VCF Tech Swap Meet" not "Flea Market". An important distinction that we settled on years ago to make it sound more than just a free for all of all types of items. On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 4:51 PM Alexander Pierson via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > (not that many of you will be able to read this because of yahoo's weird > .eml encapsulation on this listserv, but here goes anyway) > That is the first time I was able to attend a VCFed swap meet, and minus > the heat, I enjoyed myself. Sold some things, bought some things, gave > some things away. And I avoided sunburn and dehydration for the most part. > I came back with less weight in items but my wallet was lighter than when > I started -- c'est la vie. I also forgot to grab my whiteboard markers out > of my toolkit which was locked in the workshop space, which would have been > nice for making my advertising signage. Thank you to whomever thought to > provide sunscreen for sale at the VCFed merch table, I made use of that > because I forgot to bring some. > I don't know when my schedule will permit me to attend another one of > these, but here's hoping it will be at a time that isn't so brutally hot. > > -Alexander 'Z' Pierson > > On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 08:06:13 PM EDT, Ian Litchfield via > vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Yes, > > This swap was definitely less lucrative for many sellers than our previous > one, definitely an issue due to the heat. Interests seem to also be > shifting in the community. > > Another thing to keep in mind is not pricing based off eBay. I didn’t > personally run into anything overpriced, but I was also not there to shop I > went to volunteer and sell. > > At swaps I always look for busted systems to fix and I did surprisingly see > a lot of working systems. That may have to do with it too. > > Like many of us I’m a tinkerer and I just want to find some broken machines > to get going. > > -Ian L. > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 19:03 Matthew Martin via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > Interesting if true. A waning interest in monochrome displays may help my > > quest to find a good one for my 5160… > > > > -Matthew > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Jun 25, 2024, at 4:02 PM, Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic < > > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > > > Regarding the TRS 80 Model 4 (and III) ... I also noticed the lack of > a > > > market for the TRS 80 Model III and 4 at the Kennett Classic surplus > > sale. > > > They used to be a lot more popular in vintage computing circles. > > > Generally-speaking there is less of a market for monochrome displays as > > > much. This is also true when you compare the IBM PC 5151 vs 5153 > > display. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > >> On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 2:48 PM Bob Shuster via vcf-midatlantic < > > >> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > >> > > >> I’ll echo everyone else’s sentiments - it was good to see the few > folks > > I > > >> knew there, but dang was it hot! We should rename it “Swap Melt”. In > any > > >> case, I just finished updating my webpages with the sold items marked > > off, > > >> but there’s still plenty left! (theshusters.com/bobvintage.html) - > > >> *Please* feel free to make offers - I promise I won't be insulted. > > >> > > >> Nobody wants this TRS-80 Model 4? I was really hoping to not bring it > > >> home, but alas… Also the Wang WLTC is still available. Lots of people > > >> thought it was cool, but none interested enough to take it home! > > >> > > >> - Bob Shuster > > > >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Ages of PC based software
by Dean Notarnicola 26 Jun '24

26 Jun '24

There is much of the Win 2K and up code base still win 10/11 On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 4:40 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Personally > I would say windows Xp > But that OS is still used in may ways > And can still get on the “internet” with the correct browser > Yes this is opening a can of worms ! > > Mike R. > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Jun 26, 2024, at 4:22 PM, Gregg Levine via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > Hello! > > I am again trying one of my blue sky ideas, one to work on between > > right now, and again of the next repair weekend. That will be onsite. > > > > Would any of you good people remember the time period for a > > representative OS for when we can call it a Vintage Operating system? > > Last time I checked it was 1995. > > > > No velociraptor, he is visiting relatives in California, and Oregon and > WA. > > ----- > > Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8(a)gmail.com > > "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." > >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF Flea Market
by Jeffrey Brace 26 Jun '24

26 Jun '24

On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 4:51 PM Alexander Pierson via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > (not that many of you will be able to read this because of yahoo's weird > .eml encapsulation on this listserv, but here goes anyway) > That is the first time I was able to attend a VCFed swap meet, and minus > the heat, I enjoyed myself. Sold some things, bought some things, gave > some things away. And I avoided sunburn and dehydration for the most part. > Glad that you could make it! I know that it is far for you and it is hard to get off work as well. > I came back with less weight in items but my wallet was lighter than when > I started -- c'est la vie. I also forgot to grab my whiteboard markers out > of my toolkit which was locked in the workshop space, which would have been > nice for making my advertising signage. Thank you to whomever thought to > provide sunscreen for sale at the VCFed merch table, I made use of that > because I forgot to bring some. > I remembered from last June to sell sunscreen this time since someone made the suggestion. > I don't know when my schedule will permit me to attend another one of > these, but here's hoping it will be at a time that isn't so brutally hot. > It won't be. I will schedule the next one on Nov. 2. It should be 70 degrees and next June I will do earlier in the month. > > -Alexander 'Z' Pierson > > On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 08:06:13 PM EDT, Ian Litchfield via > vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Yes, > > This swap was definitely less lucrative for many sellers than our previous > one, definitely an issue due to the heat. Interests seem to also be > shifting in the community. > > Another thing to keep in mind is not pricing based off eBay. I didn’t > personally run into anything overpriced, but I was also not there to shop I > went to volunteer and sell. > > At swaps I always look for busted systems to fix and I did surprisingly see > a lot of working systems. That may have to do with it too. > > Like many of us I’m a tinkerer and I just want to find some broken machines > to get going. > > -Ian L. > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 19:03 Matthew Martin via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > Interesting if true. A waning interest in monochrome displays may help my > > quest to find a good one for my 5160… > > > > -Matthew > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Jun 25, 2024, at 4:02 PM, Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic < > > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > > > Regarding the TRS 80 Model 4 (and III) ... I also noticed the lack of > a > > > market for the TRS 80 Model III and 4 at the Kennett Classic surplus > > sale. > > > They used to be a lot more popular in vintage computing circles. > > > Generally-speaking there is less of a market for monochrome displays as > > > much. This is also true when you compare the IBM PC 5151 vs 5153 > > display. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > >> On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 2:48 PM Bob Shuster via vcf-midatlantic < > > >> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > >> > > >> I’ll echo everyone else’s sentiments - it was good to see the few > folks > > I > > >> knew there, but dang was it hot! We should rename it “Swap Melt”. In > any > > >> case, I just finished updating my webpages with the sold items marked > > off, > > >> but there’s still plenty left! (theshusters.com/bobvintage.html) - > > >> *Please* feel free to make offers - I promise I won't be insulted. > > >> > > >> Nobody wants this TRS-80 Model 4? I was really hoping to not bring it > > >> home, but alas… Also the Wang WLTC is still available. Lots of people > > >> thought it was cool, but none interested enough to take it home! > > >> > > >> - Bob Shuster > > > >

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Remember, if it's old, it must be worth tens of thousands of dollars!
by Dave Shevett 26 Jun '24

26 Jun '24

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7313061908778748/?mibextid=6ojiHh As far as I can tell, this is a DECmate 1. VT78 with an RX01 drive. I don't know what an MR78 is though. -d -- Dave Shevett shevett(a)pobox.com

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Next Repair Workshop July 27&28, 2024 @ InfoAge
by Jeffrey Brace 25 Jun '24

25 Jun '24

The next repair workshop will be at InfoAge July 27 & 28. Signup is here <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rfk37BXt2tFN_VRdkitMJbyBaIaWMsfLxVF…> See you there! Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner VCF Mid-Atlantic Event Manager Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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System Source Swap Meet coming up July 20 & 21
by Jeffrey Brace 24 Jun '24

24 Jun '24

Info is here: https://ca.syssrc.com/wp/?page_id=85&civiwp=CiviCRM&q=civicrm%2Fevent%2Finf… Does anyone have pictures from previous years? I want to post on VCF's Facebook page. Thanks! Jeff Brace

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF Flea Market
by Jeffrey Brace 23 Jun '24

23 Jun '24

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 10:56 AM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Nobody told us about it, or gave us the password > It was originally going to be used by the VCF front desk in the parking lot until we had a chance to further test it and let everyone know about it. I didn't want everyone to know and then be disappointed before it was further tested. We had only tested it for 5 to 10 minutes about 2 months ago and it worked fine in one area. We were going to do further testing, but didn't have time due to lack of volunteers. It is the same camp Evans wi-fi that is available on campus transmitted across the road. It works in one particular area of the entrance, but when we moved across to the other side of the entrance, it had poor connectivity. So we used our Mobile Citizen mobile hotspot. We may offer guest access to this in the future, but keep in mind the range is limited and hasn't been tested yet. > If it was the same as the VCF standard Wi-Fi in house, then it was not > working where I was > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Jun 23, 2024, at 10:44 AM, Martin A. Flynn via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > On 6/22/2024 8:51 PM, Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > >> It was nice seeing everyone. I tried not to buy anything but I ended up > >> having too as there was some good items. > >> > >> I want to thank the team for putting this together. I didn't realize > that I > >> could have rented a table otherwise I would have and carried more stuff. > > > > Jeff, > > > > How did the extended Wi-Fi work in the parking lot? > > > > Martin > > > >

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VCF Flea Market
by Christian Liendo 23 Jun '24

23 Jun '24

It was nice seeing everyone. I tried not to buy anything but I ended up having too as there was some good items. I want to thank the team for putting this together. I didn't realize that I could have rented a table otherwise I would have and carried more stuff.

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OT / Wi-Fi at Camp Evans
by Martin A. Flynn 23 Jun '24

23 Jun '24

This is specific to VCF at Camp Evans in Wall, NJ, Please pardon the bandwidth: The outdoor access point to support the closer end of the parking lot was deployed right before VCF East, there was no certainty on how well it would work at that distance Hardware is an UAP-AC-M-Pro, It is mounted on the gable end of the Firehouse. link: https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/products/uap-ac-mesh-pro Projected pattern: https://help.ui.com/hc/article_attachments/115014558908 Equipment was donated to CDL in support of programs at Camp Evans. Should a better option be offered by UI, CDL will accept it! Martin Flynn

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF Flea Market
by Neil Cherry 23 Jun '24

23 Jun '24

On 6/23/24 10:16, Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > There is no doubt that “buyer” attendance was way below the previous swapmeets. > Yes, of course, because of the heat wave. Heat and AQI. I had to sit out riding my bike (it's a big deal to me) because of both. :( -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry kd2zrq(a)linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies KD2ZRQ

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Anyone coming past Newburgh, NY this weekend?
by Jeffrey Brace 21 Jun '24

21 Jun '24

VCF needs someone to pick up a laptop in Newburgh, NY. Is there anyone coming our way that can pick it up? If so, then send me an e-mail. Before you ask: Connor and Ian Primus are unable to bring it. Thanks! Jeff Brace

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Atari 800 power issue
by James 21 Jun '24

21 Jun '24

Hi all, yesterday I recapped my Atari 800 using a recap kit from Console 5. All of the caps went in easily except for the two large ones. I blame my recapping skills and not the kit to be clear. I struggled to get the heat right on the two 4700uF caps, particularly the negative side due to the large ground areas on the board sucking up heat. To compensate, I bumped up the heat to 750F and applied heat a bit longer than I would have liked (though under 10 secs). How hot/long can I go before damaging a 4700uF 25v cap? I was nervous to go hotter than 750F. It's possible I have a cold joint. When I got the machine back together it booted up fine and was usable. However, I noticed that if I turned the machine off, I could not turn the machine back on again unless I waited a minute. I tried multiple known working power bricks to the same effect. This is leading me to believe I have a capacitor issue (because that's what I changed and I can rule out the power bricks which worked fine prior to the recapping and again after the machine sat for a minute). Do you think I... (A) fried one one the capacitors and it's now faulty? Is there a way to test this without removing it from the board? I clipped the wires so I'd hate to try and solder it back in if it's good. (B) I have a cold solder joint (very possible given I struggled to keep the solder fluid. However, I would have expected the machine to not function at all if this were the case. Unless my issue is the capacitors are not discharging properly which is why I need to wait a minute before turning back on?? (C) Something else? Any thoughts on diagnosing this is appreciated. Best, James

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New Custom C64 Cases: Indiegogo
by Christian Liendo 21 Jun '24

21 Jun '24

Commodore 64 Breadbin Case - Your Color Your Style The Breadbin is back and better than ever! Retro Fuzion Adelaide, Australia https://igg.me/at/C64BreadBin/x/35796953

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IMPORTANT! Repair Workshop 6/22 & 6/23
by Jeffrey Brace 20 Jun '24

20 Jun '24

Important change for the repair workshop on Saturday. We *will* be able to use the CDL side of 9059 all weekend. HOWEVER, the classroom side of 9059 will **ONLY** be available from 1PM onwards. There is a Boy Scout Group using the space from 10AM to 1PM to do soldering, etc. 9032-A is NOT available. OVERFLOW will be in the dining room of the Marconi Hotel (9001-The big Red Brick main building). Click here for signup. <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O2pQe4F0-3V36bntaMFtfteaOcThs3Lozoz…> INFO: *WHERE:* 1) CDL's Hackerspace side of 9059 and classroom in building 9059 (Most people use this one) 2) 9032-A is NOT available 3) Marconi hotel dining room *TIME:*Saturday START time == 10 A.M. END time == 11PM. Sunday START time == 10 A.M. and END == 5 P.M. *COST:* $15 per person, per day. $25 per night for those wanting to stay overnight in the visitor center's bunk beds *OVERNIGHT*: Bring your own pillow, blankets, soap etc. We provide a bed frame and an uncovered mattress. There are showers and a kitchen for your use. - You can send: * Via PayPal to @VintageComputerFed or paypal(a)vcfed.org. * Venmo: @VintageComputerFederation * Cash, credit card, Apple Pay, etc. in person. We have a Square Device. *EQUIPMENT:* - VCF will provide a table and you can use any available electrical outlet. - Bring your own tools, power strips, power cords, and supplies etc. - If you need particular tools that you don't own or particular parts, please let others know that you need something. They may have what you need. Let them know ahead of time. - Let everyone know what project you are working on ahead of time to inspire collaboration. *DRINKS*: You should bring your own. We have a refrigerator in CDL to keep them cold. VCF will buy some water and soft drinks for member use. *FOOD*: *Saturday afternoon*: Everyone is on their own. *Saturday Night Dinner at around 7PM*: We often go out to dinner together. MJ's in Tinton Falls seems the new prefered spot. *Sunday Morning*: We usually meet at a diner around 9AM *Sunday Afternoon*: Everyone is on their own. *PARKING:* Park in the main parking lot, unless you are unloading. Don't park on the lawn. Also park on where are "no parking signs" There is now a dedicated fire lane. *PHONE:* (732) 722 - 5015 *EMAIL: *repairworkshops(a)vcfed.org Have fun everyone! :-D Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner VCF Mid-Atlantic Event Manager Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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New VCF East 2024 videos coming soon!
by Jeffrey Brace 20 Jun '24

20 Jun '24

I posted the Ron Nicholson talk today. The DJ Sures video was supposed to be posted Saturday, but a duplicate of Leo Binkowski’s talk was accidentally uploaded. Someone labeled the file incorrectly. I will post the correct video as soon as I get a copy of it. Ethan O’Toole has been hard at work editing the videos. I’m currently reviewing the Saturday talks which became available to me today. I will continue to post them once per week. Enjoy! Jeff Brace

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WANTED - any piece of tech that has braille
by David Waybright 20 Jun '24

20 Jun '24

Blind people use technology called braille displays or braille note takers. 2 big names in their circle are the Pacmate from freedom scientific (used to be blazie engineering) and braillenote from pulsedata humanware among others. There is also printers called braille embossers. To the untrained eye they might appear to be a big, massive weird looking no ink dot matrix printer. I wanted to put a feeler out there since we all pour thru loads of old tech at different locations thru out the USA. If you run across anything, please don't hesitate to let me know. My wife is blind and since I'm still kicking her circa 2002 Windows CE 2.12 Braillenote qwerty keyboard 32 cell notetaker and circa 2000 Blazie Braille Blazer down the road to keep them alive I've started thinking I have an untapped source right here with all the eyes in VCF when they go looking for old tech! I would love to start a collection of old assistive technologies! This tech brand new is way too expensive for a human to buy on their own and normally requires a state rehabilitation or disability office to cut a check for. Thanks, David Eugene Waybright CompTIA A+, NET+, & Security+ Technician Crestron Certified CIV-E Intelligent Video Engineer, CIV-D Intelligent Video Designer & CIV-S Intelligent Video Specialist Crestron Certified Masters Technology Architect; Core, Flex, DMC-D-4K & E-4K, SCT-R & C, DCT-R & C, TCT-R & C AVMM Engineer; Audio & Shades Technician Extron Certified A/V Associate IT Operations & Secure Infrastructure Specialist Tesla Referral Code: https://ts.la/david55244 Please use my referral for a free demo drive, also $500 Off + 3 mo. FSD on Model 3 & Y, $1,000 Off + 3 mo. FSD on Model S & X, & $500 Off Solar TeslaFi Referral Code: https://www.teslafi.com/signup.php?referred=Dwaybright receive a one-month trial instead of two weeks. Tessie Referral Code: https://share.tessie.com/QpzcnbTb5yb receive one month free when you sign up. ChargePoint Home Pro, CPF25, CPF50, CPH50, CT4000, CP6000, OnRamp, Express 100, 200,& 250 Certified Technician [cid:f49c07f0-a1eb-4ab5-b688-709d27c02344]<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/0f52d73c69ad43ffb4490b6e75ed0de2…> Book time to meet with me<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/0f52d73c69ad43ffb4490b6e75ed0de2…>

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Swap meet 16500A
by Mike Loewen 19 Jun '24

19 Jun '24

I'll be bringing a HP 16500A logic analyzer, with 16550A 100MHz State / 500MHz Timing and 16532A 1GSa/s Oscilloscope modules installed. It comes with a box of extra modules: 16510A 25MHz State / 100MHz Timing A pair of 16520/16521A 50Mbit/s Pattern Generator cards 16530A/16531A 400 Megasample/s Digitizing Oscilloscope module pair The unit works. Unfortunately, there are no cables or pods for the 16550A Timing Module. Feel free to make offerss, off-list. Mike Loewen mloewen(a)cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

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