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Wang 4000 Restoration at VCF Mid-Atlantic
by Douglas Crawford 19 Aug '22

19 Aug '22

Any Wang Calculator & Computer aficionados here? We are in the beginning phase of our Wang 4000 restoration at VCF Mid-Atlantic InfoAge. On August 29th, The original Wang Programmer from Atlas Industries, the company that donated the machine will be visiting to tell us what he knows... remembers... about the machine to help us get started. The machine is not ready to be powered on, but hopefully we'll be in a good position to begin power up / restoration when we consider all the information we receive. Mark the date. There is likely to be some kind of video meeting hosted for tuning in. Details to follow. And it will also be recorded of course. Contact me off list if you have special expertise in Wang 4000 or related architecture. Photo: https://imgur.com/6i5IsRA Detail photos: https://imgur.com/a/u8VkxIA And a technical treat- the extremely rare manual: https://www.mediafire.com/file/i1nry8of42tm8w9/Wang4000_InstructionManual.p…

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RAM Test/Diagnostic ROM for Rockwell AIM-65
by Jonathan Chapman 19 Aug '22

19 Aug '22

All, Finally got some time to clean up the source for our RAM test/diagnostic ROM for the AIM-65: https://github.com/glitchwrks/aim65_memtest/ Initial work was largely done by TangentDelta. This was written to help diagnose and repair some dead AIM-65s. The test will run on a minimally functional AIM-65 -- all you need is a working CPU, ROM socket, and display board. It performs the following tests: * ROM checksum * Stack page quick write presence * Zero page quick write presence * RIOT single-pass memory test * Full system memory test The ROM checksum and stack page tests are accomplished with macros so that they can run with no RAM, since of course that might be faulty! Once the stack page passes, zero page is tested. With stack and ZP tested, the RIOT and exhaustive system memory tests are performed. These tests are more complete, since we have a minimally functional system by this point. The exhaustive test is based heavily on the routines from the OSI MEMORY TEST from OS-65D 2.0, published in OSI Small Systems Journal, Volume 1, Number 3, September 1977. Thanks, Jonathan

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Official Vintage Computer Federation Membership has started
by Jeffrey Brace 18 Aug '22

18 Aug '22

The national board has been discussing for quite a while about how and when to start VCF membership. We decided to get it started simply and quickly. Just in time for VCF West. Instead of deliberating for any longer on which benefits would be included, we decided to start out simply. We plan on adding more benefits as time goes on. As stated on the membership signup page: https://vcfed.org/membership/ The cost for membership is: - $25 for a 1 year individual member. - $100 for a 5 year membership. ------------------------------ For a limited time we are offering a 2 year membership for $25. This offer expires *12/31/2022*. Membership benefits currently include a *20% discount* on all VCF run events starting *08/15/22*. *To receive the discount you must sign up for the event through the event registration system on our website.* ------------------------------ We are working on adding additional valuable benefits to the membership. The event registration system is being worked on and will be available soon. ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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VCF West 2022 Report
by Jeffrey Brace 18 Aug '22

18 Aug '22

Sorry this is late. Corey and I flew there on Wed 8/3 and returned 8/8 and have been busy getting back to life responsibilities. I ran the consignment area using the new POS system that was first used at VCF East by Jeff Salzman, Alex Jaccocks, Jonthan Sturges and the consignment crew. There were some major setup problems and delays, but when I got it working it worked fantastic! Very fast checkout most of the time. Good thing because there was a line of 100 people waiting for it to open! Lots of stuff sold and lots of money came in. Corey handled the Front Desk and gave a talk as well. VCF had to switch from PayPal to Square due to shipping problems of our PayPal credit readers and due to PayPal buying iZettle and having to buy new readers. Square seems better and works well. Lots of great exhibits. I didn't have much time to look at them, but they looked fun. The talks are currently being processed and edited and should be available within a month or so. *Now for Erik Klein's Report on the show:* *===============* *For starters, I wanted to repeat that this was, by far, our biggest event ever. 11 speakers and 48 exhibitors are both records over the 25 years of the VCF.* *Beyond that, we had a great turnout with over 1,100 people enjoying the event over the course of the weekend. I'm sure Covid fears and related concerns probably shaved a bit off of that total, but it's still quite impressive.* *That is a testament to how much our hobby has grown and to how creative and compelling your exhibits and talks are.* *This event couldn't happen without your passion, commitment and support and, for all of that and all of your time and effort, I thank you!* *I'd also like to thank all of the volunteers who came out this weekend to keep things running smoothly. You looked tired by the end, but it was a happy tired, and I really appreciated all of the help you provided.* *Yeah, we definitely had a few issues with consignment. The new system is experiencing some growing pains but we learned a lot and I'm certain it will be a LOT better next year. Please accept my apologies for the lines, the waits and the other inconsistencies. Debugging is in progress.* *With this email I'm going to take a few days off from VCF, but, like you, I'll be back at it in no time.* *All the best, in vintage computing and elsewhere,* *=====================* ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Upcoming Repair Workshop 2022-08-27 & 2022-08-28
by Jeffrey Brace 18 Aug '22

18 Aug '22

Just a reminder about the next repair workshop on August 27 & 28 @ InfoAge Here is the signup sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18cH9sUKDnstGDdedUPRqcfRj27BbTF6hLwp… ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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The TI Mini I rescued
by Kelly Leavitt 18 Aug '22

18 Aug '22

Any interest in getting this old mini running? I'd like to work on it if there is any interest. I believe it was a TI 990/10 with a CDC fixed disk and a CDC cartridge disk. Right now, I believe it is still in the warehouse somewhere. Kelly

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OT: Help Wanted by InfoAge (Front Gate Attendant)
by Jeffrey Brace 18 Aug '22

18 Aug '22

Gloria, the executive assistant to Mike Ruane (CEO of InfoAge) sent out the following help wanted ad: "Hi All, We are pondering hiring one or possibly 2 people (to split the days) to employ as "gate watchers" on Museum days. Hours would be Wed, Sat & Sun from 12pm - 5pm every week. It would mean sitting outside by the gate on those days. During hot and cold seasons, they could utilize the guard shack and a fan or a heater. Rate of pay is $13 per hour. If you know of anyone that is interested,contact me by email. Thanks! Gloria" Contact Gloria at admsupport(a)infoage.org if you or someone that you know are interested. ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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FS: AIM-65, $1 starting bid
by Jonathan Chapman 18 Aug '22

18 Aug '22

All, Finally got an AIM-65 I've been meaning to sell wrapped up and listed: https://www.ebay.com/itm/275425213541 This one was used in some industrial control application and had custom ROMs in it when I received it. It was also missing the plastic display mounting blocks, so a friend of mine measured his and 3D printed replacements. The displays were gone through and a number of bad ones replaced. The main board had to be basically entirely resocketed. The flex cables to the display board were of course crumbling, so they were replaced with two new Nomex jumpers. The printer works but has two columns which are light. I don't know if that's just that the paper I had that fit it was ancient (out of my HP 5150 thermal printer, which I don't have working yet) or if the printer is weak in those two columns. Thanks, Jonathan

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Old Mac in Fair Lawn
by Christian Liendo 18 Aug '22

18 Aug '22

Not mine but someone may like this in NJ https://newjersey.craigslist.org/sys/d/fair-lawn-lot-of-vintage-apple-compu… 1. Apple Cinema Display Original (22-Inch) Specs Identifiers: Cinema Display - N/A -M5662 2. Apple Mac Server G4 533 (Digital Audio) Specs Identifiers: Digital Audio - M8182LL/A* - PowerMac3,4-1 1862 3.Apple Power Macintosh G5 2.7 DP (PCI-X) Specs Identifiers: Early 2005 - M9749LL/A - PowerMac7,3-A104) 2061 4.Apple wired keyboard model#A1243

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The TI Mini I rescued
by Herbert Johnson 17 Aug '22

17 Aug '22

> Kelly Leavitt : Wed Aug 17 16:22:58 UTC 2022 > Any interest in getting this old mini running? I'd like to work on it if there is any interest. > I believe it was a TI 990/10 with a CDC fixed disk and a CDC cartridge disk. > > Right now, I believe it is still in the warehouse somewhere. - Kelly I have an interest in seeing a TI 990 minicomputer (not microprocessor system but minicomputer). One of my first employers, established a data-conversion service using that model system. It's a late 70's early 80's business and factory-control computer. It's unlikely to turn up these days. So I'm interested. But I had to look up Kelly's reference: > [vcf-midatlantic] TI DS990/1 OS - Request from VCF Italia > Kelly Leavitt > Tue May 19 12:27:21 EDT 2020 > They use the same CPU as the TI/990 there should be some disks at infoage > from the TI/990 rescue I did from Wayne Verderber 8 years ago. Thanks to Kelly for getting back to this system. Hope he can find all the pieces in the Warehouse. Regards, Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT comcast DOT net

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Vintage Computer Festival West 2022 Videos
by Christian Liendo 15 Aug '22

15 Aug '22

I put these in a new tab on the spreadsheet that the group has. Vintage Computer Festival West 2022 https://youtu.be/Q4c3hzRjeisVCFW 2022 Channel: Chuck Hutchins Bits and Bytes from Vintage Computer Festival West 2022 https://youtu.be/CwExbBd-p1EVCFW 2022 Channel: bitfixer Vintage Computer Festival West 2022 Walkaround https://youtu.be/t8QUiaBfawsVCFW 2022 Channel: xarph just xarph

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Old Video Game Advertisements
by Dave McGuire 14 Aug '22

14 Aug '22

On 8/8/22 14:11, Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > Many out there poo poo the idea > But the same people think 80s computing is not worth > their time either. Just to jump in...I think 80s computing is/was fantastic. What rubs me the wrong way is this widespread perception that it was always only about games and nothing else. It disrespects the entire industry, its achievements, and its people to reduce the groundbreaking work that transformed society to toys for tots. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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VCF straight 8
by David Gesswein 14 Aug '22

14 Aug '22

Someone emailed me about problem with the VCF straight 8 switches acting flaky recently. Was going to reply but I can't find the email now. Could you resend the email? Or I'm just delusional.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Pentium Pro CPUs
by Dave McGuire 13 Aug '22

13 Aug '22

On August 13, 2022 10:57:22 AM madodel via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > ---------- > Pentium Pro CPUs > From: madodel madodel(a)mac.com > Date: Aug 13, 10:57 AM > To: vcf-midatlantic vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org > > Anyone interested in Pentium Pro CPUs pulled from servers after replaced by > Pentium II Overdrives many years back? I have 4 of them. Free to a good > home if anyone can use them. > > SL22T Intel Pentium Pro 200 MHz Kb80521ex200 256k Yes please, I'd like to have them. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Old Video Game Advertisements
by Christian Liendo 13 Aug '22

13 Aug '22

For some of us this is a great site. I am enjoying this a lot. https://retrocgads.tumblr.com/

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Apple IIgs to Duodisk cables
by Bob Shuster 12 Aug '22

12 Aug '22

Before I go crazy trying to find these online, does anyone have some spares, or can recommend a source? I have two Duodisk units that I want to connect to an Apple IIgs, so that’s DB-19 to DB-25 F/F. (And I guess this would also work with my Apple II computers as well.) Ultimately I’ll just turn these around and include the cables with the Duodisks. - Bob Shuster

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IIGS expectations at launch
by John Heritage 12 Aug '22

12 Aug '22

Just curious As an (80s) Atari user the IIGS looks like an amazing next gen upgrade for the Apple II line. The kind of thing the kid in me wishes the Atari 8bit received mid life. When the IIGS was launched did Apple II users see this as a commitment to the long haul for the platform or did it feel a bit like a compromise or was it otherwise disappointing? Inonoenin retrospect the 2.8 MHz artificial limitation on the CPU is a hint for the compromise narrative - but did it feel that way back then? Thanks.

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Help! I cant get asciiexpress to work with my II Plus
by Dan FitzGerald 12 Aug '22

12 Aug '22

I have an Apple II Plus, and have been been having limited success in trying to get asciiexpress.net to work with it. I can successfully load _some_ games (Dig-Dug and Montezuma's Revenge), but I cannot get the vast majority of game titles to load. And I have been having zero luck getting the disk image downloads to work; usually, it will start the self-extractor app and then give me a checksum error before failing. I had heard somewhere that interference from other cables could be the culprit and that using a Monster aux cable had good results, so I picked one up. No luck, unfortunately. Has anybody else experienced similar problems, and if so, how did you resolve them? Regards, Dan FitzGerald They/Them/Theirs http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/dfitzger

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Apple IIgs to Duodisk cables
by Brian Marstella 12 Aug '22

12 Aug '22

Over the years I've purchased 2 of them from https://iec.net/product/apple-duo-drive-cable-3/ You might see if this is the same that you need. Brian On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 1:31 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > From experience with an apple II, the cables are expensive. > But can be made, if you have the connectors and cable, yourself. > I do not have spares but just wanted to let you know they can be found. > > Mike > > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Aug 12, 2022, at 1:22 PM, Bob Shuster via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > Before I go crazy trying to find these online, does anyone have some > spares, or can recommend a source? I have two Duodisk units that I want to > connect to an Apple IIgs, so that’s DB-19 to DB-25 F/F. (And I guess this > would also work with my Apple II computers as well.) Ultimately I’ll just > turn these around and include the cables with the Duodisks. > > > > - Bob Shuster > >

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The RR Computers Auction
by Christian Liendo 11 Aug '22

11 Aug '22

Has anyone else been following this for anything other than the Apple I https://www.rrauction.com/auctions/details/644-apple-jobs-and-computer-hard… I mean they have: Steve Wozniak's Apple Rainbow Glasses Lee Felsenstein's Pennywhistle 103 Modem Kit Allan Alcorn: Atari Video Music Box A sealed iPod for $10,000.00 I mean there is a lot of stuff there.

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Workshop Report for 2022-07-30 & 2022-07-31
by Jeffrey Brace 10 Aug '22

10 Aug '22

Lots of stuff repaired. We had Bill Dromgoole fixing the Univac 2019 while training his new apprentice Steven Shivone. Hopefully Bill can give a report on what he accomplished. Mike Loewen already gave his report on the HP1000 repair. Great stuff! Jason Perkins troubleshooted the IBM PCjr and degunked the floppy drive and it is working great! There is still a difficult to diagnose memory problem that wasn’t resolved. He made sure to test everything by playing King’s quest. Ian Litchfield discovered the problem with the Apple 2: bad ROM chips. Maybe he can give a complete report. Alex Jacocks worked on getting the new OS/2 machine and the Linux 0.99 machine working as well as helping others. He also started work on standardizing the museum’s IT setup. There were others there working on their own items that may want to chime in. Overall another great Repair Workshop! Jeff Brace -- ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Old Video Game Advertisements - VCF Exhibiting
by Dave McGuire 09 Aug '22

09 Aug '22

On August 8, 2022 4:15:31 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > This is the main reason why I have not exhibited in the past or possibly not in the future. > I’ve considered two separate exhibits, > I put to much consideration into the flack or “peer pressure”. Exhibiting is about sharing what YOU love and what YOU want to show off. If you're lucky, someone will enjoy it. If you're even luckier, you'll spark a new interest for someone. There should never be any sort of "peer pressure" or anything even remotely like it in this environment. But everyone will know you're a weenie if you bring a Commodore. B-) (Dave runs for cover) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Old Video Game Advertisements - VCF Exhibiting
by Dean Notarnicola 09 Aug '22

09 Aug '22

Alexander 'Z' Pierson said: “Anyway, it's your VCF, so you might as well actively shape it in a positive direction.” This, exactly. VCF is a product of its participants and volunteers. - On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 8:04 PM Alexander Pierson via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Yeah, well I'll just make my *own* exhibit! With blackjack! And hookers! > > > Seriously though, how do you strike that balance between getting > attention vs. framing a complete and factual picture of the subject in > an exhibit? You can provide a novel experience by way of something > they've never interacted with before (paper tape, new gadgets for old > kit, freshly made software, a type of terminal graphics that stand > out). Or perchance a familiar/nostalgic experience "I used one of > these at a job I had X many years back", "I don't know this machine, > but it runs BASIC, I wonder what I can get it to do?", that sort of > thing. If you present something completely unfamiliar, you have to > give visitors something to relate to, otherwise they'll keep walking. > Run a video game, suddenly it becomes relatable to a larger audience, > and there's your hook to give them the context. > > > Because these experiences don't exist in a vacuum, they're part of a > larger tapestry of history we're trying to share with a mixed audience > of newcomers and established hobbyists alike. It's funny how some of > the more common machines get so little love from the crowd when given > a properly framed exhibit of a computer in its element. Whereas other > times, just seeing a base machine that folks recognize but never see > in person attracts attention like they were giving away free donuts. > Still, even if one feels like the exhibit concept they want to bring > won't draw a crowd, it saddens me to hear when someone is dissuaded > from exhibiting because either staff or general attendees made them > feel like they shouldn't do something perfectly acceptable, or that > they were doing it wrong. And I'm not talking about the blatantly > off-topic exhibit subjects. I'm talking about giving folks the > opportunity to try exhibiting something in a new way and possibly even > fail at that task, because sometimes that's how it goes. > > > Anyway, it's your VCF, so you might as well actively shape it in a > positive direction. > > > -Alexander 'Z' Pierson > On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 09:19:29 AM EDT, Dean Notarnicola via > vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Agreed. Anyone who feels the need to offer negative criticism is invited > to > do their own exhibit and show everyone how clever they are. > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 7:52 AM Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > I agree, but as part of the community don't crap on other peoples > displays. > > > > If you don't like it, move along. There are many others there you might > > like. > > > > If you think something is inaccurate or maybe they could use more > > information to enhance it. That's fine. > > > > There is a difference between constructive criticism and plain > > crapping on someone''s hard work. > > > > Agreed? > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 4:45 PM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic > > <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > Exhibiting is about sharing what YOU love and what YOU want to show > > off. If you're lucky, someone will enjoy it. If you're even luckier, > > you'll spark a new interest for someone. There should never be any sort > of > > "peer pressure" or anything even remotely like it in this environment. > > > > > > >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Old Video Game Advertisements
by Jeff S 09 Aug '22

09 Aug '22

I like reading the contestant check-in stories. I watched this show religiously during its original broadcast days after my Dad bought a C-band satellite receiver and this "TBS" station (new at the time) started broadcasting their signal, along with these shows. The Starcade website has been around for quite some time. When I first discovered it, I was yearning to see every episode again, but there were only a handful of them that were converted, and the video size was tiny. It wasn't until recently that the Producer posted ALL of the available shows for online viewing, and at the best NTSC format possible. Jeff Salzman On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 10:19 AM Bob Aviles via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Thanks for the information, can not wait to see all the stuff they have > on the Starcade website. > Bobby > On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 04:56:42 PM EDT, Andrew Diller via > vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > well, more like 15khz - even the RGB monitors had wicked flicker.... > > > > On Aug 8, 2022, at 3:54 PM, Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > >> Yes! Amiga HAM mode! > > > > OW my eyes and that flicker headache! Who thought it was a good idea to > use a TV as a computer monitor! > > > > - Ethan > > > > >

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Upcoming repair workshops @ InfoAge
by Jeffrey Brace 08 Aug '22

08 Aug '22

@INFOAGE *August 27 & 28: * https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18cH9sUKDnstGDdedUPRqcfRj27BbTF6hLwp… *September 10 & 11* https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WzPJaOYJ0digG2SUPi6sNfOib23IkSJboha… I know that many will be going to VCF Midwest, but decided to keep it as scheduled for those that aren’t going. *October 8 & 9* https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nr1RTETci3OWWPylfinntsncswcYVA8mquB… This is the Swap Meet weekend. *November 12 & 13* https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yGntoKF6NbTq-3LjQVk0GKRbeBXuUBhYCcB… -- ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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OT / Update
by Martin Flynn 08 Aug '22

08 Aug '22

The usual suspects addressed several projects at Camp Evans to move the various VCF projects along * The 100 pair aerial cable to support providing analog dial-tone to the VCF museum was confirmed to be dry and ready to attach to the messenger wire. * The new fiber between the makerspace and guard shack is routed through the cable entry vault to the fiber MDF. This allows a 10GB feed, should VCF want to use the guard shack as the entry point for VCE East. * The IP security cameras are programmed and on the bench in the makerspace (location and installation in the new museum space to be coordinated. * The upstream WAN switch to support the firewall cluster was installed, image at http://compdecon.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/fw_switch_swap.png Martin Flynn

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Bringing back the golden days of Bell Labs
by Christian Liendo 08 Aug '22

08 Aug '22

Established almost 100 years ago, Bell Labs made a great contribution to advancing both fundamental science and technology. Was that the result of a unique set of circumstances or is there a reproducible recipe for success? https://www.nature.com/articles/s42254-022-00426-6

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VT220 North of Boston (fwd)
by Mike Loewen 06 Aug '22

06 Aug '22

From the cctalk list. Not mine. Reply to Dave Mitton. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2022 22:33:46 -0400 From: Dave Mitton via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> To: "cctalk(a)classiccmp.org" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Cc: Dave Mitton <dave(a)mitton.com> Subject: [cctalk] VT220 North of Boston I picked up a VT220 passing by some clean out a while ago. Green phosphor, powers up and passes self test. The keyboard has 3 broken function row keys, keycaps. Free to pickup in North Andover. Shipping would be heavy and awkward with the CRT. Dave. Sent from Mail for Windows

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Help with reading old round Mag tapes?
by Dave McGuire 02 Aug '22

02 Aug '22

On 8/2/22 18:10, David Horvath via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > Mike Loewen suggested that I join this distribution list and post my > request here. I have several old round mag tapes, likely written on > PDP-11/VAXen and CDC-Cyber, probably 1600 BPI that I'd like to try to > extract from. Old code, old docs, old stuff :-) > > I live between Wilmington DE and Philadelphia PA but get up to North NJ > fairly frequently. > > I understand the tapes may not be readable... I can assist you with this. I think we spoke about this a year or so ago but I don't recall offhand where that conversation went. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Help with reading old round Mag tapes?
by David Horvath 02 Aug '22

02 Aug '22

Mike Loewen suggested that I join this distribution list and post my request here. I have several old round mag tapes, likely written on PDP-11/VAXen and CDC-Cyber, probably 1600 BPI that I'd like to try to extract from. Old code, old docs, old stuff :-) I live between Wilmington DE and Philadelphia PA but get up to North NJ fairly frequently. I understand the tapes may not be readable... Thanks in advance for your time. - David, KB3RIJ

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Lee Felsenstein at VCF West
by Christian Liendo 02 Aug '22

02 Aug '22

Wow, that is going to be a good talk. He came to NJ once and it was a great experience.

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Workshop report
by Mike Loewen 02 Aug '22

02 Aug '22

Summary: the museum's HP 2117F now runs RTE-6/VM from the hard disc, and the 7970B tape drive is working. At this weekend's VCF workshop at Infoage, I worked on the museum's HP 2117F minicomputer. The last time I was there, I had copied an OS image to the 7912 hard drive, but it wouldn't boot. After consulting with my HP guru, we decided that the problem was likely the Time Base Generator Board (TBG). I pulled a TBG from one of the warehouse hangar queens, and ran diagnostics on it. Everything passed, and the machine booted RTE-6/VM from the hard disc. The 7970B 9-track tape drive had been untested, because the 2117F lacked the two-board interface for the drive. A gentleman from Sweden donated the boards, for the cost of shipping. I installed the boards, cleaned the tape head, path, and the capstan. Bill Dromgoole provided a scratch tape to use, and the drive loaded tape without a problem. I copied over an OS image with the tape drive configured, and was able to backup and restore files to the tape drive. The 7970B is an 800bpi drive, running at 45ips. I procured a cable to connect the 2621P terminal to the 2117F. The battery which maintains the terminal configuration has turned to powder, and it should be removed and the contacts cleaned. The battery is a Mallory TR133 (4.5V, 600mah, alkaline), or equivalent. It can be purchased from several online battery outlets. Because the terminal configuration is lost at power-off, the configuration screen appears at each power-on. The only two things that need to be changed are the baud (9600) and REMOTE mode enabled. The terminal's printer works. Rick brought in an HP 2622A terminal, which he was donating to the museum. He dusted it off and I swapped it in for the console terminal. It works! There's a fair amount of screen burn, but it's perfectly useable. It needs a good cleaning, and I'll have to make another cable adapter to connect to the 2117F. It also needs a battery. In future, we'll be able to have both terminals online for demos. Currently, power to the 2117F is being fed by power strips. It needs to be split across two power strips, as the current draw will trip the breaker on a single strip. Power to the individual units is all 110V. Ideally, the original 208V 3-phase power distribution scheme should be restored. The unit splits two phases out to two internal power strips, one to each cabinet. The individual units would then be plugged into those internal power strips and their power switches left on. A single button on the front of the CPU cabinet would then power on/off all connected equipment. Bill Dromgoole said he could check the wiring on the plug and figure out the best way to wire it into the breaker panel. I will be writing up detailed instructions for the docents to demo the system. Mike Loewen mloewen(a)cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] RR's Apple1 Prototype for Auction
by Ethan O'Toole 01 Aug '22

01 Aug '22

[NON-Text Body part not included] > Wozniak was the man and always will be!!!! > Bobby Truth. - E

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RR's Apple1 Prototype for Auction
by Andrew Diller 01 Aug '22

01 Aug '22

If you have some extra cash and are into these things: https://www.rrauction.com/auctions/lot-detail/345735106445006-steve-jobs-39… <https://www.rrauction.com/auctions/lot-detail/345735106445006-steve-jobs-39…> Of interest: "This Apple-1 prototype, listed as #2 on the Apple-1 Registry and considered 'lost' until recently, was examined and authenticated in 2022 by Apple-1 expert Corey Cohen. It is accompanied by Cohen's notarized thirteen-page report." Corey keeping busy! Does this boot to anything? -andy

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Breakfast Tomorrow
by Jeffrey Brace 30 Jul '22

30 Jul '22

We are meeting at 9AM at Blue Swan Diner-- ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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HOPE 2022
by Christian Liendo 30 Jul '22

30 Jul '22

Who attended HOPE 2022? I didn't go but I'm looking for opinions on it

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] OT: time to downsize
by Bob Shuster 30 Jul '22

30 Jul '22

Just added: TRS-80 Model 1 systems, Model 4, two Color Computer 2 systems, plus related software and documentation. Please take a look again and see if there’s anything you’d be interested in - I know several people have asked about the Model 4! I’ll go through the TRS-80 related books next - there are a lot. The Model 4 set me back a while as I needed to repair the floppy power supply (thanks to some help here) and I’ve been playing with it since! I've been regularly marking the sold and sale pending items, thank you guys so much! And once again - many thanks to those who have adopted some of my babies so far. The link: http://www.theshusters.com/bobvintage.html <http://www.theshusters.com/bobvintage.html> Please don't share without asking me. Currently just open to this group - my contact info is intentionally missing from the webpages. If you can read this, you have my email. Email me with questions or offers! Please don't make offers on the list, but if you want to discuss my process and feel the group would benefit, then by all means knock yourself out! :) Bob Shuster (Original message below) ---- Well, folks, I've gotten to the age where I need to seriously downsize my hobbies and collections, not wanting to leave it to my children to have to deal with in later years. (I had to do that recently for a relative.) On the electronics side, I've decided to concentrate on my vintage video game systems - and therefore sell off most of my vintage computer stuff. My collection includes mostly 8-bit stuff: TRS-80 Models I, IV, M100, etc. - Atari 400, 800, Portfolio, ST, etc. - C64/VIC20 - T/S1000 (including an unbuilt kit), Apple II, II+, IIe, IIe Platinum, IIgs - Wang WLTC - Mattel Aquarius - TI-99/4A - many others that I still have to dig out - plus lots of peripherals, disks, manuals, etc. Also have some newer Macs starting with a Mac Plus in an Apple carrying bag. I'm starting with you guys before trying to list elsewhere, although I may hit some of the dedicated FaceBorg pages (such as for Aquarius and Apple II.) I'm willing to ship some of the smaller items, but in general systems or monitors will need to be picked up here (near the Fort Washington exit of the PA Turnpike) or nearby, and cash or PayPal for payment. I may also consider trades for some of the video game stuff I'm looking for. It pains me to do this, but the clutter is getting out of hand, and I haven't touched most of these in years. It's time for someone else to enjoy. Bob Shuster

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OT - Need help at Camp Evans
by Martin Flynn 30 Jul '22

30 Jul '22

CDL is deploying fiber to replace the problematic Ethernet over Coax (MOCA) feeds to the Hotel and the "H" buildings We will be on site next Saturday (08/06/2022) installing the fiber on the 9059 end of the run to the hotel. Work will involve adding the fiber to the existing bundle (to Building 9032), and cutting out the old ty-wraps. Plenty of trips up and down the stepladders. If you in a position to assist, please email me directly to keep the noise down on the list! Martin Flynn

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would you like to learn more?
by Jeffrey Jonas 30 Jul '22

30 Jul '22

There's a new book about women in computing history: https://www.amazon.com/Proving-Ground-Untold-Programmed-Computer/dp/1538718… Proving Ground: The Untold Story of the Six Women Who Programmed the World's First Modern Computer by Kathy Kleiman that belongs on the shelf aside the chronicles of Grace Hopper, the Secret Rosies, etc. Hidden Figures: The American Dream and the Untold Story of the Black Women Mathematicians Who Helped Win the Space Race by Margot Lee Shetterly Rise of the Rocket Girls: The Women Who Propelled Us, from Missiles to the Moon to Mars by Nathalia Holt

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Old office equipment up for grabs
by Jeffrey Brace 29 Jul '22

29 Jul '22

The Neptune Library had some very old office equipment and projectors that they need to dispose of. Here is a link to pictures in case anyone else has an interest: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1k6V1UCm5JSDciK_iKsMADV3MpS2EWqGN?us… If you are interested, then let me know and I will put you in contact with the proper person.

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Fwd: Update from the TCF Team!
by Jeffrey Brace 29 Jul '22

29 Jul '22

In case some of you aren't on the TCF mailing list. Here is an update from them. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Trenton Computer Festival <info(a)tcf-nj.org> Date: Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 2:41 PM Subject: Update from the TCF Team! To: <jeffrey(a)vcfed.org> We have now posted all 2022 and most 2021 sessions on YouTube for you to explore and enjoy! When you visit please click SUBSCRIBE and CLICK THE BELL to receive updates! TCF 2023 will be held March 18, 2023 - in either an in person or hybrid format. Planning for an exciting even - with some fun surprises is well underway. In the meantime please support us by spreading the news of our YouTube library - and please subscribe - it really helps our channel grow! Have an awesome rest of the summer and take care! TCF Team Visit the TCF YouTube Channel Now! <https://tcf-nj.us7.list-manage.com/track/click?u=00b777f8a69986c070ecbcb76&…> *Copyright © 2022 TCF-NJ, All rights reserved.* You are receiving this email because you opted in via our website. *Our mailing address is:* TCF-NJ PO Box 7718 Ewing, NJ 08628-0718 Add us to your address book <https://tcf-nj.us7.list-manage.com/vcard?u=00b777f8a69986c070ecbcb76&id=b65…> Want to change how you receive these emails? You can update your preferences <https://tcf-nj.us7.list-manage.com/profile?u=00b777f8a69986c070ecbcb76&id=b…> or unsubscribe from this list <https://tcf-nj.us7.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=00b777f8a69986c070ecbcb76&…>. [image: Email Marketing Powered by Mailchimp] <http://www.mailchimp.com/email-referral/?utm_source=freemium_newsletter&utm…>

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UPS units FTGH
by Mike Loewen 28 Jul '22

28 Jul '22

I have 3 APC UPS units which I can bring to this weekend's workshop: 2 SU2200 rack mount (3U) 1 SC 450 (1U) All need batteries. Let me know off-list if you want one or more. Mike Loewen mloewen(a)cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

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The cool things you might find in the warehouse (1979 internal Apple memo)
by Adam Michlin 28 Jul '22

28 Jul '22

Hi Everyone, We found this working in the warehouse. Thanks go out to Jason Perkins for scanning it and uploading it to the Internet Archive (how would we ever do our jobs without them?) https://archive.org/details/apple-memo-reset-vector We're really wondering if it was truly an internal only memo or if it was an internal memo that was copied and sent out to the dealers, though. We posted the first page to the Apple II Enthusiasts Facebook group and no one did the typical "Meh... ", so who knows? Best wishes, -Adam

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Photos from VCF South East
by Andrew Diller 27 Jul '22

27 Jul '22

I didn't see anyone post photos from SE so here are some. They are not mine- they were posted publicly elsewhere, i'm just passing them along. If you just want to see the FujiNet go right here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/15r_82tzzu5CAzOHZ4qAJHOTHp9vWoWJj/view <https://drive.google.com/file/d/15r_82tzzu5CAzOHZ4qAJHOTHp9vWoWJj/view> Otherwise: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1oduU1noyT44HjF26cmA8OKtksNxuy4Ij <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1oduU1noyT44HjF26cmA8OKtksNxuy4Ij> Thanks to Andrew Taylor for taking these (I don't know him). I'm sorry I missed this, it looks like a nice show. Am planning to make MidWest later this year in person. -andy

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Date for Holiday Party?
by Dave McGuire 26 Jul '22

26 Jul '22

On 7/25/22 13:32, Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > Yes, I think the steering committee did take a wrong turn on this one. "Opinions vary." > The event will not be happening during the winter. It won't? > Did anyone really have an issue with the title “Festivus”, really? I did. I thought it was dumb and maybe a bit immature. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Looking for Data20 cartridge for VIC20
by Richard Cini 26 Jul '22

26 Jul '22

All — I’m looking for a Data 20 “Display Master” 40-column expansion card for the VIC-20 as I’m planning on doing a recreation of it. If anyone has one they’re willing to part with, please let me know. Thanks! Rich http://cini.classiccmp.org/ Long Island S100 User’s Group Get Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Date for Holiday Party? - Name of the party.
by Bryan Pope 25 Jul '22

25 Jul '22

Acronym FTW! Now just make it recursive. On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 3:10 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > YES! > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Jul 25, 2022, at 2:48 PM, Jeff S via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > Let's call it: > > > > Fantastic > > Event > > Shared > > Typically > > In a > > Very > > Unorthodox > > Setting > > > >> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 2:07 PM Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic < > >> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >> > >> We did, I recall, all agree we were ready to let "festivus" go > >> as an operating name of that party. > >> Probably for varying reasons- tired of it, immature, > >> ready for a fresh departure from old days. > >> We simply failed at that point to come up with a good > >> new way to refer to it publicly. We were tired. > >> > >> > >

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Desired: Amiga 1200 kb/flop/shields, Sun Voyager bag. a3000 face/flop
by Ethan O'Toole 25 Jul '22

25 Jul '22

Parts Ethan needs for incomplete systems: Amiga 1200 floppy, keyboard, shields (Or checkmate case for A1200) Amiga 3000 front plastic face, floppy Sun Voyager padded bag I have an Apple III monitor, in original box, working in the NoVA area if anyone would be interested in such an item. Also, Winter starts when cargo shorts stop. - Ethan

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Date for Holiday Party?
by Christian Liendo 25 Jul '22

25 Jul '22

Is there a date for the holiday party? I only see the following Jul 30, 31 – Repair Workshop @ InfoAge Aug 6, 7 – VCF West – @ CHM Sep 10-11 – VCF Midwest Oct 8 – Swap Meet @ InfoAge

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Repair Workshop Reminder for July 30 & 31, 2022
by Jeffrey Brace 24 Jul '22

24 Jul '22

Signup for July 2022 Repair Workshop here: July 2022 Repair Workshop Signup Sheet <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oUoYSVelMEb8IvR3X2xn4sXlKscOfxI9mhU…> Spaces are first come first serve to the CDL space. Limited space available. Overflow space in 9032-A building. Sign up to guarantee a space in your preferred area!!! *DATES*: July 30 & 31, 2022 *LOCATIONS:* InfoAge: 2201 Marconi Road, Wall Township, NJ 1) Building 9059 (CDL Hackerspace - Formerly IXR) AND 2) Building 9032-A (Old workshop area in main building) TIME: Saturday START time == 10 A.M. END time == 11PM. Sunday START time == 10 A.M. and END == 5 P.M. *SIGNUP HERE!*: Signup sheet Click HERE! <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oUoYSVelMEb8IvR3X2xn4sXlKscOfxI9mhU…> Face Masks are required for non-vaccinated people. Vaccinated people have the option to wear masks, but they are highly recommended. *COST:*- $15 per person, PER day. This money goes to InfoAge and CDL. - $25 per night for those wanting to stay overnight (Money goes to InfoAge). Please pay ME upon arrival. Cash or PayPal is acceptable as payment. Ask ahead of time if you need to use a credit card. *OVERNIGHT*: Bring your own pillow, blankets, soap etc. We provide a bed frame and an uncovered mattress. There are showers and a kitchen for your use. - You can pay via PayPal to paypal(a)vcfed.org. or to me via cash or credit card in person. *EQUIPMENT:* - VCF will provide a table and you can use any available electrical outlet. - Bring your own tools, power strips, power cords, and supplies etc. - If you need particular tools that you don't own or particular parts, please post to the list for those going. They may have what you need. Let them know ahead of time. - Let everyone know what project you are working on ahead of time to inspire collaboration. *DRINKS*: You should bring your own. We have a refrigerator in CDL to keep them cold. VCF will buy some water and soft drinks for member use. *FOOD*: *Saturday afternoon*: Pizza from Attilios (Tinton Falls) *Saturday Night Dinner at 7PM?*: Options: * Ottos * Robinson Ale House * MJs * Brick House Tap and Tavern * Main Street Bar and Grill Signup here for Saturday Dinner <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11lx8OipqimgAFBN-kf6kqrbFcSeCpcvUDrH…> *Sunday Morning*: Bagel order from Delicious Bagels Sign-up HERE <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IkYa7liDJlP3LiXXrPYNQzOysSHVf9xwbN4…> *Sunday Afternoon*: Wawa GATE: Please close the gate behind you at all times. We want to make sure that museum visitors pay at the InfoAge front desk during museum hours. PARKING: Park in the main parking lot, unless you are unloading. Don't park on the lawn. QUESTIONS? Contact Jeff Brace PHONE: (7 3 2 ) 7 5 9 - 1 7 8 3 EMAIL: jeffrey AT vcfed.org Have fun everyone! ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner VCF Mid-Atlantic Executive Director Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

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