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Classes at VCF East 2021 on Friday, October 8
by Jeffrey Brace 27 Aug '21

27 Aug '21

We currently have 11 classes scheduled for VCF East on Friday, October 8. There is room for one more. We have a great lineup for classes so far! Atari 2600 Graphics Programming Pax Consola - 8 Bit development system #Fujinet Personal Computer Graphics of the 70's and 80's Fuzix Intro How to Create a simple video controller with a FPGA Pong Restoration CRT Repair PROMAL for the C64 Calculating with Slide Rules, Volvelles, Abaci and Mechanical Computers Practical Lisa. The schedule will be finalized soon, but here is a draft of of it: https://vcfed.org/wp/festivals/vintage-computer-festival-east/vcf-east-sche… ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] 30 Years of Linux
by Dave McGuire 26 Aug '21

26 Aug '21

On 8/26/21 1:48 PM, madodel via vcf-midatlantic wrote: >> Linux is *everywhere*. I'm willing to bet that everyone on this >> list, literally every person, has half a dozen instances of Linux >> in their houses right now that they don't even know about. > > My Tesla runs Linux, but that's in my garage. ;-) Excellent. :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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30 Years of Linux
by Christian Liendo 26 Aug '21

26 Aug '21

https://linuxfoundation.org/linux30th/ I think Linux is historically important and something VCF may want to cover in the future. For now, I just say Happy 30!

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No more exhibitor tables left for VCF East
by Jeffrey Brace 26 Aug '21

26 Aug '21

There are no more exhibitors tables left. If you are still interested, then you can go on the waiting list and we will let you know if any exhibitors drop out. There are tentatively some slots available for The World of IBM mega exhibit. Dean and Adam are in charge of filling up 25 tables for their mega exhibit. This is the Exhibitor registration form: https://forms.gle/SqV17sCzVG3hjSGGA ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Looking for “Small Windows” book
by Herb Johnson 25 Aug '21

25 Aug '21

https://archive.org/details/smallwindowslibr0000hend A search of archive.org for "small windows" title and "hendrix" for producer, found this "borrow" copy there. There's some means for registered persons to do something with a copy for an hour, I don't know what. Otherwise nonregistered persons can only see a few pages. also: copies of the book held at remote physical libraries - a suggested search found some - may be physically borrowed by contacting your local library and (after registering) using "interlibrary loan" to borrow it remotely. It will be mailed to your local library for your pickup and return. This is generally free through public libraries, that is paid by your local taxes to support these fine institutions. I'm explaining all this out for people who are unfamiliar with these methods. Regards, Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT comcast DOT net

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Looking for “Small Windows” book
by Richard Cini 24 Aug '21

24 Aug '21

All — I’m looking for the Small Windows book from Jim Hendrix (M&T Books, 1987). It’s one of his “small” books like Small-C. If anyone had a copy they want to get rid of, please let me know. Oddly, I have the disks but not the book. Thanks! Rich http://cini.classiccmp.org/ Long Island S100 User’s Group Get Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] For the IBM XT Clone exhibit - AT&T PC
by Ethan O'Toole 24 Aug '21

24 Aug '21

[NON-Text Body part not included] I used to love the look of that computer. Color scheme and box shape and all that. But now I know the Tandy 1000SX was a better computer, despite it's flaws. I think the Walt Disney ride "Spaceship Earth" had a set during it where there was one of those AT&T PCs on a desk or something. - Ethan

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Re: For the IBM XT Clone exhibit - AT&T PC
by David Hayden 24 Aug '21

24 Aug '21

That brings back memories. That was my first PC back in ... 1986? I was working at Bell Labs and they sold them cheap to employees. It's made by Olivetti as I recall. AT&T had bought Olivetti and was in the process of running it into the ground.... The motherboard is mounted upside down. To access it, you turn the PC over and remove the bottom case. I saw several posts by people complaining that a memory upgrade (socketed DIPs on the MB) required tearing the entire machine apart. They didn’t realize that all they had to do was turn it over and remove 2 screws. 😊 Dave

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] For the IBM XT Clone exhibit - AT&T PC
by Dean Notarnicola 23 Aug '21

23 Aug '21

Yes, not worth it without the keyboard and monitor On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:52 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Looks nasty ! > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Aug 23, 2021, at 11:00 PM, Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/133833992747 > > > > cheap, close to pick up. Good? > > > > BIll > >

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For the IBM XT Clone exhibit - AT&T PC
by Bill Degnan 23 Aug '21

23 Aug '21

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133833992747 cheap, close to pick up. Good? BIll

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VOLUNTEERS NEEDED FOR VCF EAST!!!
by Jeffrey Brace 23 Aug '21

23 Aug '21

Sorry to put that in all caps, but I had sent out previous requests for volunteers and many people said that they never saw or noticed them. So hopefully this one is noticed. I only got 2 volunteers from my previous requests so I'm making the plea again. I see volunteers as the oil in the engine of VCF East. They make the whole show run smoothly and are vital to making things go well. I'm just one person who runs the show, but can't do it without adequate volunteering. If I don't get enough volunteers, then the show has a lot of bumps in the road and the existing volunteers get overwhelmed and there are more unhappy people than necessary. If you would like to volunteer, then please fill out this form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd0yru702BssSMu8o_B9OemqYGe20HmXvp… Having said that, I need help in many areas: CONSIGNMENT A/V FRONT DESK SETUP BEFORE THE SHOW BREAK DOWN AFTER THE SHOW To have some idea of what is needed day by day: WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 6 (SETUP!) - Moving tables, chairs - Moving the bunkbeds to the back of the women's bunk room - Clearing the hotel dining room and the 9032-A exhibit space - Setting up tables - Other tasks that I'm forgetting and have on my to-do list. THURSDAY, OCTOBER 7 (SETUP!) - Finish setting up tables, chairs, stage - Putting tablecloths on tables, and signs - Putting up outdoor signs - Moving front desk swag and stuff to the front lobby area - Other tasks that I'm forgetting and have on my to-do list. FRIDAY, OCTOBER 8 - A/V operators - Consignment volunteers - Food Sales - Front Desk volunteers SATURDAY, OCTOBER 9 - A/V operators - Consignment volunteers - Food Sales - Front Desk volunteers SUNDAY, OCTOBER 10 - A/V operators - Consignment volunteers - Food Sales - Front Desk volunteers - BREAK DOWN VOLUNTEERS (THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AS IT GOES QUICKLY WHEN WE HAVE ADEQUATE PEOPLE. I UNDERSTAND EVERYONE WILL BE TIRED AND WANT TO GO HOME, BUT I USUALLY GET STUFF WITH 3 VOLUNTEERS TO DO ALL OF THIS) If you would like to volunteer, then please fill out this form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd0yru702BssSMu8o_B9OemqYGe20HmXvp… If you have questions, then send me a private message. ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Soldering station parts
by Martin Flynn 22 Aug '21

22 Aug '21

Was pointed to this vendor recently and ordered a bunch of Hakko stuff for CDL https://www.eaesales.com/ Martin

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(kind of OT) - VCF East Prep Day
by Martin Flynn 22 Aug '21

22 Aug '21

CDL is scheduling a work day at Camp Evans, In part to address the IT support portion of the prep for VCF East We are targeting September 25, 2021, with the following projects in mind: * Run a pair of network cables from 9010C to the network rack in 9010B for Wi-Fi Access points and install the access points * Continue to install the cable anchors on the outside of 9032D, 9032C, and 9032B * Install a pair of network cables from the train workshop in 9010A to the network rack in 9010B * Mount the network rack in the 9032A furnace room. * Install the power cables in the 9059 attic for the new UPS system * Drop the existing network cables into the wall between the 9059 Makerspace and 9059 classroom, and mount the cameras Please reply off-list to keep the noise ratio on the list down! Martin Flynn

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Mice!
by Adam Michlin 22 Aug '21

22 Aug '21

Hi Everyone, As some of you know, I'm moving back to New Jersey (actually this weekend). I'll be living a few minutes north of the museum and am already brainstorming. SomeTimeSoon<tm> I'm hoping to propose a mouse exhibit for the museum. To that end, I thought it would be fun to brainstorm on two mouse related topics: Historically important mice Historically oddball mice Mice I know we have: DEC mouse Xerox Alto mouse (currently on the Xerox Star, anyone want to donate a Xerox Star mouse? Pretty please?) Xerox DayBreak mouse (winner of the What Could Be Possibly Thinking? Connector Award) Original Mac serial mouse Various ADB Mac mice Various Commodore mice Various Amiga mice Various Atari mice iMac Puck Mouse (slightly out of scope, but my vote for WorstMouseEver<tm>). Various PS/2 and serial PC mice Various Apple II related mice Thoughts on important pointing devices (trackpads, trackballs, etc.) beyond the mouse are also most welcome. For those that may not know, we try to mix up the exhibits but are often at the limits of what is in the VCF collection. So if you have a mouse to donate, we greatly appreciate it and we can give you a tax writeoff. Along the same lines, we'd love someone to buy and donate this Lisa 1 mouse: https://www.ebay.com/itm/284394610135 I'm told it is a good price. I'm also told it doesn't work with our Lisa 2. But it would make a nice artifact for a possibly future mouse exhibit and we can keep it for the day that we do have a Lisa 1. I'm thrilled to share that the System Source Museum in Maryland just acquired a Lisa 1, so they are out there. Best wishes, -Adam --- Adam Michlin Director of Marketing Vintage Computer Federation

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Macromedia Director support in ScummVM
by Dylan Servilla 22 Aug '21

22 Aug '21

Hi, I'm Dylan. I've been a docent at the VCF museum since last May, and I'm there most weekends. I'm also a computer science student at Rutgers New Brunswick and a developer for ScummVM, the game engine reimplementation project. I've been working on ScummVM's Macromedia Director engine for the past two years. It was just officially announced, and I thought the list might be interested: https://www.scummvm.org/news/20210817/ Macromedia Director was originally released in 1985 as MacroMind VideoWorks, an animation program for the Macintosh. Soon after, a scripting language was introduced, the program was renamed Director, and it became heavily used in CD-ROM games in the 1990s. ScummVM now supports early Director titles, allowing them to be played natively on modern computers. Eventually this will be able to play a huge number of old CD-ROM games. The engine has gotten some media coverage, including in Ars Technica, but be aware that it isn't entirely accurate. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/08/scummvm-now-supports-macromedia-dire… The engine is currently in the testing stage, and it will be included in the ScummVM 2.5.0 release next month. Dylan Servilla

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] OT: Looking for recommendations on new soldering station for vintage electronics!
by Bob Shuster 20 Aug '21

20 Aug '21

Thanks for all the advice and recommendations. I ended up getting the Weller WE1010 soldering station, the modern version of the Weller WESD51. Heats up quickly, cools down quickly, multitude of tips, very easy tip change, lightweight and feels comfortable in the hand, etc. Seems like a nice solid device - I’m happy with it so far. - Bob

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Docents update
by Jeffrey Brace 20 Aug '21

20 Aug '21

Please congratulate Dennis who is going to University of Maryland - College Park next week. He has been a helpful docent for more than a year. It has been a great help to me so that I don't have to be there every Saturday and Sunday as a docent. I would also like to thank Dylan who has also been a docent for more than a year and is returning to Rutgers in the fall. He will continue being docent and drive down from Rutgers. And last, but not least Steve Anderson who always fills in for emergencies as a docent. It has been wonderful to have these three guys fill in when I have other VCF or personal obligations. I'm hoping to get more docents coming in so that the museum coverage is spread out among many people instead of one. ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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VCF 2021 Swapmeet video
by Jeffrey Brace 20 Aug '21

20 Aug '21

Marcus Mera took some video of our swap meet back in April: https://youtu.be/fZgYPjN3j4o He wanted me to share it with everyone. ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] What does Al Kossow have against VCF?
by Herb Johnson 19 Aug '21

19 Aug '21

On 8/19/2021 11:39 AM, Christian Liendo wrote: > Please allow me to respectfully disagree, since I first posed the > question. I need to explain more. In a way, I thank you for your explanation in response to my post. It reveals the logic you used in deciding to post, what amounts to your personal opinions about individuals and organizations. And, you express your sense of how other people and an organization "should" respond about such things in a public discussion. Now, in a way, this continues a public and *critical* discussion about a private person's merits and actions. That's inappropriate on its face. So I won't respond to points particular to a person or an organization. I'll respond to the process and the reasoning, which were MY point in my post, and in Christian's response. (I'll add one point specific to VCFed-Midatlantic at the end.) By "inappropriate", I mean this. The power of public discussion should not be used as a platform to criticize individuals, subject them or their actions to scrutiny. That doesn't (shouldn't) need much explanation. Those who choose to do that, won't accept an explanation anyway. But some Web searching on "trolls" and "discussion groups" will be informative. Also, about "authority": who has the authority to decide in a public way, if some person did something that merits "public trial"? To present evidence and to ask leading questions - in public? And: does the "accused" have a right or obligation to respond - or is it smarter to simply ignore such discussions? Some study and experience says they should ignore it. These considerations make the case against such public discussions, as patently unfair. Also: if someone with authority is indiscreet? Well, that should not be an excuse to be indiscreet in response. But sometimes it's hard to resist. So, *privately*, if one wonders personally, why someone did or said something? Well, a) is it any of their business? b) are they in any position of power or authority to find out or judge? c) are they obliged to take any actions? Some of Christian's comments, amount to these sort of questions. For the most part, the simple answers for people who aren't involved or responsible, are no, no, and no. One might argue, that if any response appears to be of merit - yet one is NOT responsible for taking actions - then MAYBE one can report the situation to those who ARE responsible. That is, contact the potentially-injured party. Of course, that's also a excuse for passing gossip. One must use some discretion. Otherwise: if someone posts some criticism about some thing or practice or activity, then discuss that subject or not on the merits - if there are any. Not discuss the person. One other thing. OK, two. I asserted, neither Christian nor I have any special authority about what is or is not to be discussed in this email list - that falls to the owners of the list. I don't want to be repetitive or persistent; I'm creating my own counter-productive example (!) but I have a point which challenges that. My point: I think there is one, mitigating circumstance, with this VCFed-Midatlantic email list in particular; which would not be so in other email lists. That is: this list is actively used by the VCFed-Midatlantic, for discussions and actions of the organization itself. And so, one such "action" could be: the operation of this email list. Also: VCFed-Midatlantic by explicit by-laws, defines membership in that organization, as "anyone who joins the mailing list". So participants in this list, are members of the organization. So those active in this list, have some claims for an interest, and for responsibility. Maybe, something like that, suggested to Christian that he was obliged to take certain actions. But - no "member" has any more authority than any other. Only management has more authority, that is more power. And: on the matter of "being formal". Now, I don't expect people, to engage in legalisms and formal logic and complicated arguments. As a practical matter, then, here's why some people try to post (the kind of stuff I'm talking about). They see it in previous posts, from people who decide it's OK to post stuff like this. Nobody objects. And then they see, people who respond (like me!); they want to join in. Again: For those not familiar with these matters, do some Web searching on "trolls", to find out why personalized discussions are *a bad idea*; and why some people engage in it anyway. I don't wanna be a troll, even about NOT being a troll. I posted my objection; I made a case; I responded to the response. That's enough from Herb Johnson, maybe too much. regards, Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT comcast DOT net

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What does Al Kossow have against VCF?
by Herb Johnson 19 Aug '21

19 Aug '21

I think this discussion as titled, is inappropriate on principles. First, it's a public discussion about an individual, their actions and their supposed motivations. What special knowledge or authority, do particular persons have or possess, regarding some one person other than themselves? I call this "gossip". Second, this is a discussion group sponsored by a non-profit educational corporation, for public purpose. I doubt discussions of this class suit those purposes. Any plausible rules of moderation would not permit persons to post negative commentary about an individual. If the owners of this discussion group fail to moderate, it falls to the members to self-moderate. And so I post accordingly. Discussions about the operation of a mail list, are usually counter-productive; I choose this lesser evil. Third, if there's a plausible discussion about something more appropriate, such as say changes in tastes in the vintage computing community (general or particular) - then change the subject line to reflect that discussion, and continue that discussion. Put another way: If no one moderates or complains about gossip and personal arguments, and those posts continue, then that becomes the standard. It becomes normalized. Makes it easier to do the next time, and the next. This is the core argument for moderation. Regards, Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT comcast DOT net

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Unicorn Electronics
by Mike Loewen 19 Aug '21

19 Aug '21

Has anyone ordered from Unicorn Electronics recently? Their shopping cart system comes back with a 404 response. Likewise their contact form. I've sent a message to sales(a)unicornelectronics.com about it. Mike Loewen mloewen(a)cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

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OT: Reel audio tape digitization
by David Gesswein 18 Aug '21

18 Aug '21

Somebody asked me about getting some reel to reel audio tapes digitized. Does anyone have a company they recommend or should I just point them to what I found with a search online?

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Bringing items to VCF
by Dean Notarnicola 17 Aug '21

17 Aug '21

All, Thank you to everyone who attended our workshops. While we always appreciate and are grateful for donations of hardware/software/etc., we are currently experiencing a severe space crunch. On top of that, we are in the process of figuring out the logistics of relocating all the warehouse items to temporary space. In light of this, we ask everyone to please contact someone on the committee or board before bringing anything that will be stored at VCF (contact me, Jeff, Adam, Andy, Tony, Chris or Corey.) This will give us an opportunity to find a place for things. Again, thank you to everyone for your participation and contributions to making us a successful organization. Hope to see you at VCF East in October! Regards, Dean

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Kennett Classic Sept 21st 2021 Flyer / Event Update
by Bill Degnan 17 Aug '21

17 Aug '21

I am writing to extend an invitation to my friends at the VCFederation to attend the 2nd-annual Kennett Classic event on Sept 25th. This date marks the 2nd anniversary of the place. I booked the large community activity space called "The Garage" across the street of the museum, which is really going to be a great venue for this event. It's a large converted garage with a high ceiling, break-out rooms and a stage for the computer music performances (8-bit and maybe a theremin show) Here is a link to the flyer, fresh off the presses: https://www.kennettclassic.com/kennett-classic-flyer-KC-II.pdf Here is the page that will be updated frequently. https://www.kennettclassic.com/2nd-annual-kennett-classic-announced/ There are dozens of persons and families living in or visiting Kennett Square who have expressed interest and signed up to get involved. Some are veterans like you guys and some are eager to learn more about the hobby. If you're interested in getting involved, contact me through the web site. I will be updating the details for registration and so on. The basics: 1) You can register for an all-day pass that gives you access to all rooms, activities and project work space. The all-day pass includes a ticket to the computer music performances that start after 7PM. 2) You can exhibit - Make use of that old exhibit from last year, or this year, and turn on a whole new audience to vintage computing! We have a pretty large, growing group here to meet and share. There will be a lot of public walk-in traffic while exhibits are open. *Exhibitors' all-day passes are free* 3) Public exhibits 12-5PM 4) Computer music show from 7-11PM https://www.kennettclassic.com/2nd-annual-kennett-classic-announced/ About Kennett Square: https://historickennettsquare.com/ Thanks in advance Bill Degnan

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What does Al Kossow have against VCF?
by Christian Liendo 17 Aug '21

17 Aug '21

>From ClassicCMP From: Al Kossow via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 9:24 PM Subject: Re: 30 yrs. ago To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> On 8/13/21 6:14 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > this began > the era of mass-computing and it is now what classiccmp.org > is all about wrong go play with the children on vogons or the VCF forum if you feel that way

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] September workshop
by Bill Degnan 16 Aug '21

16 Aug '21

Speaking of which, it's really coming together nicely if anyone here is interested to go. After the all-day workshop we have three chiptunes bands booked for the evening, but there will still be spaces for people who might want to keep working while the music is playing. Technically we'll also have the space Friday night as well, if you need time to load in. The Garage Center is across the street from the museum but it's much larger and can house 200 people. It will be nice to bounce back and forth between the museum and the event. Here is the latest: https://www.kennettclassic.com/2nd-annual-kennett-classic-announced/ On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 6:20 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Jeff > there must be a lag in email. > > I was looking forward to September’s workshop which I saw, when I looked > back through my emails, that it was listed. > I never saw an alert that it was canceled. > > I was going to make the September workshop because I was asked to loan my > Columbia XT clone to someone to show at the VCF East and we were going to > try and get it working. > > I didn’t make the August workshop because I thought there was one in > September. > But that’s not an issue I just thought I would > Explain. > > So, second thing on my list is about the tapes that you were asking me > about. > > I sent you an email about that but I want To make clear that I want keep > that one tape that was in a plastic bag, un-opened. > > I do actually want to pick that up at some point when you’re available. > > So please let me know when I can pick it up. > > Thank you > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Aug 16, 2021, at 6:08 PM, Jeffrey Brace <jeffrey(a)vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > > >> On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 7:11 PM Sentrytv <sentrytv(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Jeff could you tell me when September’s workshop is please? > > > > Hello Mike, > > > > I'm sorry, but there is no September workshop. Kennett Classic is having > their event and Bill Degnan asked for me not to do a repair workshop that > weekend. There is also VCF MW on September 11 & 12. Also I will be too busy > preparing for VCF East to take up my whole weekend with a repair workshop. > > > > Repair workshops resume in January because VCF East is in October, I > need a rest in November. Festivus is in December and we will have a hybrid > party/repair workshop/swap meet that weekend. > > > >> > >> Sent from: > >> My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. >

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Re: September workshop
by Sentrytv 16 Aug '21

16 Aug '21

Jeff there must be a lag in email. I was looking forward to September’s workshop which I saw, when I looked back through my emails, that it was listed. I never saw an alert that it was canceled. I was going to make the September workshop because I was asked to loan my Columbia XT clone to someone to show at the VCF East and we were going to try and get it working. I didn’t make the August workshop because I thought there was one in September. But that’s not an issue I just thought I would Explain. So, second thing on my list is about the tapes that you were asking me about. I sent you an email about that but I want To make clear that I want keep that one tape that was in a plastic bag, un-opened. I do actually want to pick that up at some point when you’re available. So please let me know when I can pick it up. Thank you Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > On Aug 16, 2021, at 6:08 PM, Jeffrey Brace <jeffrey(a)vcfed.org> wrote: > > >> On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 7:11 PM Sentrytv <sentrytv(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> Jeff could you tell me when September’s workshop is please? > > Hello Mike, > > I'm sorry, but there is no September workshop. Kennett Classic is having their event and Bill Degnan asked for me not to do a repair workshop that weekend. There is also VCF MW on September 11 & 12. Also I will be too busy preparing for VCF East to take up my whole weekend with a repair workshop. > > Repair workshops resume in January because VCF East is in October, I need a rest in November. Festivus is in December and we will have a hybrid party/repair workshop/swap meet that weekend. > >> >> Sent from: >> My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] What does Al Kossow have against VCF?
by Michael Brutman 16 Aug '21

16 Aug '21

I don't think we're debating Al's contributions. It would be better if he wouldn't insult a large group of people gratuitously, especially since it is a bit hypocritical since he is also a user of that particular forum. It also reinforces the stereotype that the hobby is full of cranky people with few social skills.

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3D Printers for VCF Donation?
by John Heritage 15 Aug '21

15 Aug '21

Hey All, I have 2 (maybe 3) home-made Prusa i3 clones in mostly working condition that have been collecting dust for a few years and I was curious if VCF would take these as donations for workshops or others to use / learn from in some capacity? The 2 "for sure" printers are ~ 8" x 8" x ~ 6" high build areas. Electronics are RAMPS based on one, and Rambo based on the other. Heated beds work well. One of the printers has a finicky hot end (E3D v6) - it'll work for a while and then stop, and seems to require reassembly every time you change filament. It was quite reliable for a while then became too much work .. This printer uses 1.7mm filament. The other one is my father's he's no longer using -- his has an older hot end, is the RAMPs based model, but he's printed many things over the years. Uses 3.0mm filament. This one might have a larger than 8" x 8" bed - I need to get some more up to date info from Dad. Both are mechanically sound and have LED screens (1 attached, 1 not yet attached). Will of course throw in some filament with these printers. I still have all of the arduino settings/firmware handy for these printers. I also have spare parts for these -- some extra E3D hot end parts, another set or two of ramps electronics, wires, etc.. Thanks..

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wanted: Amiga 3000 front bezel and floppy
by Ethan O'Toole 14 Aug '21

14 Aug '21

Got an a3000 but front was cut out for a floppy drive replacement. looking for an undamaged front and floppy to make it original.

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Z80 single board computer needs a good home.
by William Dudley 13 Aug '21

13 Aug '21

In the late 70's I designed and produced a single board Z80 computer for my job, and I kept one for myself, and eventually used it in home automation projects. I don't need this anymore, so it wants to be adopted by somebody who wants to play with a Z80 without breaking anything expensive. Specs: approx size: 11.25 x 9 inches. double sided ceramic/gold Z80 with 2.4576 MHz crystal 6 2114 RAM installed, room for 2 more. So 3K bytes installed, upgradable to 4K bytes 2732 EPROM installed but socket designed to take bigger parts. EPROM is running a simple monitor that allows one to control the I/O ports. Footprints on the board for two more EPROMS. 2 Z80 DARTs, so 4 serial ports 1488 and 1489 RS232 line driver/rcvr installed. Three of the serial ports are brought out in DB25 connectors. 1 Z80 CTC installed, room for a 2nd one. Footprint on the board for a Z80 PIO 2 74LS374 8 bit latches for I/O installed. Footprints on the board for an analog mux and an A/D converter, both in 28 pin 600 mil wide packages. No idea what part they are. Input power should be 5v and +/- 12v (for the RS232 output) The board comes with almost no documentation, but it's a double sided board, so it should be easy-ish to reverse engineer it, especially since it's half populated and there are handwritten markings for some of the uninstalled parts. The board and I are in Jackson, NJ. I will be going to the repair workshop at the museum this weekend, though I realize this is short notice. I can ship this at your expense. Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux.

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VCF museum machines in need of TLC
by Jeffrey Brace 13 Aug '21

13 Aug '21

Jeff Salzman will be working making a backup boot disk for the Zorba. One of them stopped working. He will also take a look at the H89. We also need good demos to run on the Amiga 1000. Some of the disks don't seem to work *and* apparently some disks have the SCA virus. Could someone bring a disinfectant? The museum also has an SD card reader for the Vic-20. I just haven’t had time to set it up yet. Maybe someone can help me figure it out and pick some good demos. Also the museum 1541 drive on the C64, has issues. I had swapped it out for another one, but haven't had the chance to try simple troubleshooting like a disk cleaner, etc. It has JiffyDOS and is cosmetically better than the one I swapped. Maybe someone can take a look at it. Jason Perkins will look at the Lisa as it doesn't boot now. I would like a better demo for the Atari 1040ST. If anyone has a better suggestion for a disk, please let me know. Also need someone to install the SD card read for the IBM PCjr. The Apple 2 seems to be having issues again. It might just need a card to be reseated. Does anyone have experience getting the TRS-80 working with a floppy drive? I'd like to get some demos working on that machine. I think that's all. ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Happy Birthday IBM-PC
by Ethan Dicks 13 Aug '21

13 Aug '21

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 4:27 PM madodel via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > I don't think anyone had GB of anything back in the 80's. I remember back > then when our IBM mainframe was upgraded to 1mb of core memory and that was > serving 3 hospitals with 100's of terminals. When I first started working at Software Results in the Fall of 1984, me and one of the other student workers were marveling at the 32-bitness of the VAX-11/750 (with 8MB of physical RAM in a 4GB virtual address space) and trying to envision how expensive and how large *Four Gigabytes* of RAM would be, and it was *immense*. This same machine (8MB RAM) could handle 70 dumb terminal users, but to be fair, it did swap a bit over 40 users. The two fattest apps we had were were VMS MAIL and MASS-11 (word processing). -ethan

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Happy Birthday IBM-PC
by Chris Fala 13 Aug '21

13 Aug '21

I had a VIC back then. (I know I told this story before, but here it is again.) It was a gift from my sister who worked at Commodore at the time (she worked in sales under Kit Spencer, and often worked with Mike Tomczyk and Jack Tramiel). I used to think she got my computer with her employee discount, but it was more like the employee-walk-out-the-door-with-whatever-you-want discount (Bil Herd recently confirmed this was a thing that was done with approval). I only had a tape drive and maybe one cartridge (no floppy drive). I wrote several games in BASIC, plus other programs to do useful things. A few years ago, I found many of my programs on an old cassette tape, and yes, I transferred them to floppy. One game I am currently re-developing for the C64. I spent many hours programming on my VIC. I also built a couple simple circuits to interface with it. The 22 column screen was a challenge, but it forced you to be creative. Plus I didn't have a RAM expansion, so working within 3.5k was another challenge, a barrier that I slammed up against on one particular program. It was fun learning all the memory optimization techniques. I was spoiled in school in 8th, 9th, and 12th grades where I got to use TRS-80 Models 1 and III (taught myself BASIN on them before I got the VIC), but the VIC was all mine, and that made it better! Chris On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 9:34 AM Alexander Pierson via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > February '81, eh? Did anyone else have a VIC-20 when it was relatively > new? What was your experience like? > > Contrasting that, is there anyone here who actually got their hands on an > IBM 5150 within that first year? > > I find the VIC gets a bit of an unfair shake these days, seen as an > underpowered toy/game system. However, I see it as the little machine that > could. The VIC-20 is my favorite vintage computer, hands down. Don't > believe me? http://commodorez.com/img/vicportrait1000.jpg > > -Alexander 'Z' Pierson > _ > On Thursday, August 12, 2021, 4:56:59 PM EDT, Richard Cini < > rich.cini(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I got my VIC in February 1981 (9th grade). Upgraded to a Fat Mac in 1985. > I didn’t get anything PC-ish until I was half-way through college (a > DeskPro 386/16 with 5 MB of RAM and a 42mb hard drive; still have that > machine too). My point was more that 40 years is a long time. > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 4:50 PM Alexander Pierson via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > >I think I was still using my VIC-20 then. > > You make it sound like it was old in '81, however: Happy 40th birthday > Commodore VIC-20 too. Yes, technically it was released in Japan in '80, > but nobody here lived in Japan/had a VIC-1001. I've never heard a > concrete, verifiable answer on what month it was released in the US. Just > vaguely mid-summer. > > -Alexander 'Z' Pierson > _ > On Thursday, August 12, 2021, 7:45:02 AM EDT, Richard Cini via > vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > August 12, 1981 at a news conference in NY, IBM introduced the PC. 40 > years ago. Holy cow. I think I was still using my VIC-20 then. > > Rich > > http://cini.classiccmp.org/ > Long Island S100 User’s Group > > Get Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS > > > > >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Happy Birthday IBM-PC
by Ethan Dicks 13 Aug '21

13 Aug '21

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 9:34 AM Alexander Pierson via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > February '81, eh? Did anyone else have a VIC-20 when it was relatively new? What was your experience like? I got one in late 1982 or early 1983 when the price dropped a little bit (I think I paid under $100). I got it from the department store that my high school girlfriend was working at the time. It was definitely an early 9VAC unit, not the later one with the DIN power connector. I already had a PET (2001N-32) and a C-64 and 1541 so I was able to immediately use the 1541 with it. I typed in a few games from magazines/books and I wrote some programs to play with the sound and color a bit (exploring the differences between the VIC-I and VIC-II chips). I also did a little hardware hacking because the expansion connector was standard 22-pin edge connector and, of course, the User Port connector had a lot of overlap with the pinouts of the PET and C-64. The most elaborate thing I made was a DEC FlipChip module tester by wiring a 6821 to the expansion bus and to a single DEC backplane connector. I did some small software exploration of that device but never worked out the massive wad of vector tables one would need to make it really useful. > Contrasting that, is there anyone here who actually got their hands on an IBM 5150 within that first year? I got my first job in March, 1982, at Bruce and James/Software Labs (two companies, same owners, one public-facing, one a captive development resource for the public-facing company). Their flagship product was "WordVision", a word processor for "PC-DOS 1.0 or higher, 256K required, at least 1 floppy drive required". My job was writing the demo for the never-produced C-64 "home version" of WordVision. We had 2-3 5150s at work that Spring/Summer. I didn't do a lot on them, but I did use them occasionally. I didn't form a very favorable opinion of them from my experience. All of the flaws and limitations stood out to me, and there wasn't much software at the time that really leveraged any of the positives (like way more RAM than a typical home computer of the day). My opinion was if you were going to spend that much, just get a loaded Apple II. One thing stuck with me from that job was when the boss kept saying "wait until the 'Peanut' (PCjr) comes out. It's going to change the world!" At the time, the 5150 was so expensive that it wasn't expected to make many inroads into the home market (which is why we were planning a C-64 version of the product), so IBM's home offering was going to clear the decks at that tier while maintaining dominance in the office. But then the clones happened... -ethan

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I would say don't buy this
by Bill Degnan 13 Aug '21

13 Aug '21

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133839458723 Nah. Missing a CPU board, looks like my definition of "dry storage" is different than this guy's.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Apple I replics for sale
by Bill Degnan 13 Aug '21

13 Aug '21

thanks Mike. On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:54 AM MikeWillegal via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Hi Bill, > > I don’t think there is a significant difference in functionality of > clones. I believe they all exhibit the faults of the original, although, > like the original, there are some board to board variations in scope of the > various problems. > > Replicas are a different matter, and it bothers me that most do not > support cassette tape input/output, which puts those sort of replicas into > a not really workalike category. I would argue that adding a Brain Board > to an Apple II gets you closer to a true work-alike functionality than > those replicas that lack cassette tape interfaces. > > Let me clear up a misconception. The only intentional difference between > a Mimeo and an original Apple 1, is the logo I put into the copper layer on > the back. > > There are some unintentional differences. > > 1) The modern PCB substrate and manufacturing process is different than > the original. The original type substrate isn’t made any more because it > is incompatible with modern PCB manufacturing processes. > 2) A lack of information due to the non-existence of bare board original > Apple 1s caused a few mistakes, most of which were corrected in later > batches, as the mistakes were discovered. > 3) The difficulty of reproducing a board that was laid out by hand taping > methods which despite the great skill of Howard Cantin lead to some > variation in the layout. Note that the Apple II was laid out digitally and > was somewhat easier to clone. > > I have found it somewhat amusing over the years how Apple 1 clone makers > have frequently copied mistakes made in various versions of the Mimeo. > > best regards, > Mike Willegal

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Happy Birthday IBM-PC
by Dean Notarnicola 13 Aug '21

13 Aug '21

Working or not, I’d love to borrow it for the upcoming VCF east PC exhibit! On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 9:52 AM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > I picked up a while ago a > Columbia a MPC 1600 (dual floppy) or at least I believe that’s the model > I had read online that it is a clone of the IBM. > It does not work, but it will be a work in progress as soon as I get to it. > > Mike R. > > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Aug 13, 2021, at 9:34 AM, Alexander Pierson via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > > > <mime-attachment> > >

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Re: Apple I replics for sale
by MikeWillegal 13 Aug '21

13 Aug '21

Hi Bill, I don’t think there is a significant difference in functionality of clones. I believe they all exhibit the faults of the original, although, like the original, there are some board to board variations in scope of the various problems. Replicas are a different matter, and it bothers me that most do not support cassette tape input/output, which puts those sort of replicas into a not really workalike category. I would argue that adding a Brain Board to an Apple II gets you closer to a true work-alike functionality than those replicas that lack cassette tape interfaces. Let me clear up a misconception. The only intentional difference between a Mimeo and an original Apple 1, is the logo I put into the copper layer on the back. There are some unintentional differences. 1) The modern PCB substrate and manufacturing process is different than the original. The original type substrate isn’t made any more because it is incompatible with modern PCB manufacturing processes. 2) A lack of information due to the non-existence of bare board original Apple 1s caused a few mistakes, most of which were corrected in later batches, as the mistakes were discovered. 3) The difficulty of reproducing a board that was laid out by hand taping methods which despite the great skill of Howard Cantin lead to some variation in the layout. Note that the Apple II was laid out digitally and was somewhat easier to clone. I have found it somewhat amusing over the years how Apple 1 clone makers have frequently copied mistakes made in various versions of the Mimeo. best regards, Mike Willegal

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Happy Birthday IBM-PC
by Sentrytv 13 Aug '21

13 Aug '21

I picked up a while ago a Columbia a MPC 1600 (dual floppy) or at least I believe that’s the model I had read online that it is a clone of the IBM. It does not work, but it will be a work in progress as soon as I get to it. Mike R. Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > On Aug 13, 2021, at 9:34 AM, Alexander Pierson via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > <mime-attachment>

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Happy Birthday IBM-PC
by Richard Cini 13 Aug '21

13 Aug '21

I got my VIC in February 1981 (9th grade). Upgraded to a Fat Mac in 1985. I didn’t get anything PC-ish until I was half-way through college (a DeskPro 386/16 with 5 MB of RAM and a 42mb hard drive; still have that machine too). My point was more that 40 years is a long time. On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 4:50 PM Alexander Pierson via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >I think I was still using my VIC-20 then. > > You make it sound like it was old in '81, however: Happy 40th birthday > Commodore VIC-20 too. Yes, technically it was released in Japan in '80, > but nobody here lived in Japan/had a VIC-1001. I've never heard a > concrete, verifiable answer on what month it was released in the US. Just > vaguely mid-summer. > > -Alexander 'Z' Pierson > _ > On Thursday, August 12, 2021, 7:45:02 AM EDT, Richard Cini via > vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > August 12, 1981 at a news conference in NY, IBM introduced the PC. 40 > years ago. Holy cow. I think I was still using my VIC-20 then. > > Rich > > http://cini.classiccmp.org/ > Long Island S100 User’s Group > > Get Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS > > >

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Apple I replics for sale
by Bill Degnan 12 Aug '21

12 Aug '21

Saw this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/294039736399 I am curious what others think of this board. I own a different one already but I was curious, should anyone ask, what are the best replica Apple I motherboards 1) closest to original 2) best functionally I ask because the original board is not as good "functionally" as a modern board made to look like one, i.e. it may not be as reliable because of the manufacturing technique of the original board. I know Mikes has intentional differences put into his replica so it does not come off as an original board, some of these do try to reproduce everything. I am sure Mike and Corey have seen everything and I am curious what they and anyone into replicas of Apple I's think here. Bill

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Happy Birthday IBM-PC
by Alexander Pierson 12 Aug '21

12 Aug '21

>I think I was still using my VIC-20 then. You make it sound like it was old in '81, however: Happy 40th birthday Commodore VIC-20 too. Yes, technically it was released in Japan in '80, but nobody here lived in Japan/had a VIC-1001. I've never heard a concrete, verifiable answer on what month it was released in the US. Just vaguely mid-summer. -Alexander 'Z' Pierson _ On Thursday, August 12, 2021, 7:45:02 AM EDT, Richard Cini via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: August 12, 1981 at a news conference in NY, IBM introduced the PC. 40 years ago. Holy cow. I think I was still using my VIC-20 then. Rich http://cini.classiccmp.org/ Long Island S100 User’s Group Get Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Happy Birthday IBM-PC
by Dave McGuire 12 Aug '21

12 Aug '21

On 8/12/21 4:26 PM, madodel via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > I don't think anyone had GB of anything back in the 80's. I remember > back then when our IBM mainframe was upgraded to 1mb of core > memory and that was serving 3 hospitals with 100's of terminals. > My phone has 4 GB of RAM and 256GB of flash storage. I don't > remember how much DASD storage the mainframe had but the disk > drives were huge. The IBM 3380 initially had a capacity of 2.5GB and was introduced in 1980. That was one of their most popular fixed disk drives for mainframes. They are...large. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Happy Birthday IBM-PC
by Richard Cini 12 Aug '21

12 Aug '21

August 12, 1981 at a news conference in NY, IBM introduced the PC. 40 years ago. Holy cow. I think I was still using my VIC-20 then. Rich http://cini.classiccmp.org/ Long Island S100 User’s Group Get Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

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Repair Workshop Info 2021-08-14 & 2021-08-15
by Jeffrey Brace 11 Aug '21

11 Aug '21

Signup for June 2021 Repair Workshop here: August 2021 Repair Workshop Signup Sheet <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J028DlSdvSUlh3BsrGfmalHQ9qbFfPSUQa9…> Spaces are first come first serve to the CDL space. Limited space available. Overflow space in 9032-A building. Sign up to guarantee a table!!! *DATES*: August 14 & 15, 2021 *LOCATIONS:* InfoAge: 2201 Marconi Road, Wall Township, NJ 1) Building 9059 (CDL Hackerspace - Formerly IXR) AND 2) Building 9032-A (Old workshop area in main building) TIME: Saturday START time == 10 A.M. END time == 11PM. Sunday START time == 10 A.M. and END == 5 P.M. *SIGNUP HERE!*: Signup sheet Click HERE! <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J028DlSdvSUlh3BsrGfmalHQ9qbFfPSUQa9…> Fask Masks are required for non vaccinated people. Vaccinated people have the option to wear masks or not. *COST:*- $15 per person, PER day. This money goes to InfoAge and CDL. - $25 per night for those wanting to stay overnight (Money goes to InfoAge). Please pay ME upon arrival. Cash or PayPal is acceptable as payment. Ask ahead of time if you need to use a credit card. *OVERNIGHT*: Bring your own pillow, blankets, soap etc. We provide a bed frame and an uncovered mattress. There are showers and a kitchen for your use. - You can pay via PayPal to paypal(a)vcfed.org. or to me via cash or credit card in person. *EQUIPMENT:* - VCF will provide a table and you can use any available electrical outlet. - Bring your own tools, power strips, power cords, and supplies etc. - If you need particular tools that you don't know or particular parts, please post to the list for those going. They may have what you need. Let them know ahead of time. - Let everyone know what project you are working on ahead of time to inspire collaboration. *DRINKS*: You should bring your own. We have a refrigerator in CDL to keep them cold. VCF will buy some water and soft drinks for member use. *FOOD*: *Saturday afternoon*: Pizza from Attilios (Tinton Falls) *Saturday Night Dinner at 7PM?*: Options: 1) MJs 2) Robinson Ale House 3) Brick House Tap and Tavern 4) Main Street Bar and Grill 5) Any recommendations? Signup here for Saturday Dinner <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vo2dSs8HOVaFYuGCPqh_QmYfqPUjCqbXnRz…> *Sunday Morning*: Bagel order from Delicious Bagels Sign-up HERE <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Cd3sY7biD1NwmB3anTbCTI80D2QULKMYPvJ…> *Sunday Afternoon*: Wawa GATE: Please close the gate behind you at all times. We want to discourage random strangers from wandering the campus during museum hours. PARKING: Park in the main parking lot, unless you are unloading. Don't park on the lawn. QUESTIONS? Contact Jeff Brace PHONE: (7 3 2 ) 7 5 9 - 1 7 8 3 EMAIL: jeffrey AT vcfed.org Have fun everyone! ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Food thoughts for Repair Workshop 8/14 & 8/15
by Jeffrey Brace 11 Aug '21

11 Aug '21

DINNER: I've decided not to do a BBQ this time. It will be too hot and humid this weekend as well as scattered thunderstorms. I plan on trying to get a reservation at either of these two places : 1) MJs (Neptune City) 2) Robinsons Ale House ( Asbury Park - next to The Silverball Arcade https://www.therobinsonalehouseasburypark.com/) If I can't reserve then I can do either then: 3) Brickhouse Tap and Tavern (Neptune City) 4) Main Street Grill For those that are interested I will ask for preferences during the repair workshop. I should also mention that there is an Italian Festival in Ocean Township this weekend for those that want an alternative place to eat: https://iaato.com/festival/ BREAKFAST: How does everyone feel about keep doing the bagel order? Or we can try a diner this time? Think about it and let me know during the repair workshop. ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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VCF East 2021 Exhibitors: Time is running out!
by Jeffrey Brace 10 Aug '21

10 Aug '21

If you haven't signed up to be an exhibitor for VCF East, then please do so as soon as possible. The deadline is coming up: September 1. We still have room for more exhibitors, and want to make sure that everyone has a chance to reserve a table. To register for an exhibit, please fill out this form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdtF7NsjLdJ9D7YAbNZiLywzYHhbZ8Cup9… Exhibits will run October 9 & 10. Please let me know if you have any questions. ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Free magazines: Lotus 1-2-3 Computer for Managers and Professionals
by Jeffrey Brace 10 Aug '21

10 Aug '21

Someone is looking to get rid of Lotus 1-2-3 magazines from 1987-1990. If anyone has any interest, then send me an e-mail. ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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VCF Museum and Warehouse Update
by Herb Johnson 10 Aug '21

10 Aug '21

Two general questions or comments. Neither are anything I can do anything about. But they seem worth pointing out. Pardon the long explanations, if these were obvious no explanation would be needed. 1) Tony Bogan et al, most recently Martin Flynn, refer a lot to InfoAge building number designations. I'm sure, because of their weekly and daily activities at Infoage in Wall, NJ, they know which building is which and how they are laid out and connected and all that. Others, who visit sporadically, do not know what they are talking about. I barely know myself, despite 15 years of my visits to "the campus" of Infoage, because I have a dyslexia about "names". So building 9010 versus 9010B versus 9999 versus 9009 all. look. the same. names. to. me. It's not about me of course. What someone who reads this email list, knows about buildings, matters or it doesn't. But with repairs and moves announced weekly, daily - and now volunteers requested - it seems to matter *now*. It gets worse, if one wants to *find out* these numbers. infoage.org, has hidden maps on their Web site, of the facilities. Recent maps have no Army numbering. I looked days ago (when Martin was reporting on wiring), and I had to use Google to find a survey map of the site, from when Camp Evans was under review by the Army as some kind of preserved facility. https://infoage.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/NHL-Figure-2.jpg That's where I found it. and it calls out "9010 complex". (shrug) I recall on-site paper brochures, I haven't checked lately. I don't know if they are online, on the Web. How much searching should I do? Please don't tell me "we aren't responsible for InfoAge's Web site". You are responsible for vcf.org. The only map there, shows a few buildings by function; no Army numbers. 2) Tony announced, a move of the museum - again, buildings a little cryptic - from one section of a building to four sections of (maybe the same) a building. And a move of the warehouse, apparently to another building. (That kind-of was my last-straw about identifying InfoAge buildings.) Apparently the new-to-VCFed sites will need preparation. Apparently some funds will have to be raised. This is good, this is great. But: it will take time, and volunteers. No timelines were stated. Meanwhile: VCF-East is Oct 8-10 - 60 days from today. Those who have participated, know how labor-intensive that can be. That presents a conflict. Bottom line seems clear to me. What museum or warehouse work will be scheduled *before* Oct? Site work equals people-power equals more volunteers and more people-hours. Right? People will have to choose what to do and when. Right? They may want details. One hopes, VCFed won't be OBLIGED to move their Museum before Oct 2021. That would have consequences for the VCF-East visitors. Right? The Warehouse move "should not" impact VCF-East, but who knows? I'm just guessing. The simplest timeline is: "no changes to current VCFed sites before the end of VCF-East". And, work on sites to be moved to, that "has" to be done before October - one hopes it can be done as best-efforts, lower-priority. (shrug) But VCFed is part of InfoAge, and InfoAge has many tenants/partners. Those may require actions before October. ------------------------------------- All of this is not about me, or maybe only about me. My problem with names is my problem. As for what building is where, what number, what size? Solve that with a good map, point to it, and it's DONE. On moving: I did computer site preparation professionally, when younger. I'm too old now to hustle boxes, sweat and crawl under buildings. But I'm not in charge. But I have an interest in the outcomes. and who knows? maybe there's work for an old person. If Covid permits; that too is uncertain, hard to plan for. Meanwhile: the next 60 days will likely force certain priorities. Let people know so they can make choices ahead of time. Seams reasonable. Regards, Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT comcast DOT net

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