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Museum 3b1
by David Gesswein 16 Jan '21

16 Jan '21

I finally remember to create a page describing the image on the 3b1. For people demoing it gives information on what I think was useful for doing demos. If anybody know of more interesting stuff to put on I can. The man page stuff described in the manual isn't yet in the museum image. http://www.pdp8online.com/3b1/demos.shtml

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Culpability and Provenance
by Herb Johnson 15 Jan '21

15 Jan '21

Well, while I have a lot I could post on these matters, I won't. I'm not a lawyer and these are legal matters. The rest is discussion not advice. Certain content one might obtain from others accidentally on an abandoned computer, is outright illegal to own and distribute. Delete it - period. Other content is proprietary and still in distribution, thus an actionable issue by the active producers of that content. And of course, most of us with a clue know what is "private information". Nobody here is "researching" people's private information. This is a vintage computing discussion. Private information must be deleted, copies only to owners who want it and are given opportunities to ask. Most people seem to be indifferent; some are not. The rest, is about technical content of old programs out of use, and possibly original programming done (as in sources, binaries). These things are, in my opinion, the business of those of us in vintage computing. What to do about finding that stuff, has been in discussion for decades. There's common practices about that content. While owners could take actions, many owners are disinterested in doing so, or "unavailable", or in some cases have released their published works. Owners have rights, and the right to say "delete". At least they used to, when content resided in their own hands. Another subject. Informing former owners about discovered content beyond impersonal programs and documents, has some merits both to us and to the prior owners. Tony shares his experience, that he's informed some owners about protecting their data. All that said, I'm informed by the posts on this subject, from persons who identify their sources of authority on their decisions (Tony mentioned HIPAA compliance for instance). And by various experiences discussed. Authority and or experience matters to me, when I see advice, certainly when I give it. I don't say I have much authority, other than years of practices; I have no authority on legal matters, little on business. I'm a technologist by training and historian by circumstance. Myself: I preserve the history of development of certain programs and hardware on my Web site. Much of that is published information, descriptions and repairs of hardware, documentation, sources or disassemblies. Some of it is biographical information from public sources and personal correspondence (republished by me with permission). Generally I have permissions, as owners of content have the rights to say "no", and privacy rights. Over the decades: I've been contacted by content-owners or their heirs or their associates and customers. Most thank me for recognizing those known to them, a few for recognizing themselves! Some provide more information. Some people want their privacy, or at least used to when privacy existed. And some, are no longer interested in certain past works. So it seems to me: If the VCF Inc. chooses to, they might gather some informed and authoritative opinions and recommendations and practices, and make that information available, as a service. They may also choose to do so, to inform their officers and volunteers as to "best practices" within the VCF collection. One service might be, to identify kinds of content - such as I and others have identified - and suggest the kinds of practices one might take. That service alone, may help persons in deciding what to do, where to seek advice. But I'm not credentialed in most of these matters. I have certain practices I follow. Mostly I tell people "this is at your own risk. Seek professional, legal or more experienced advice. I'm not responsible for your consequences. Make your own choices." Otherwise I lead by example and effort and results, I hope. regards, Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT comcast DOT net

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the human element [was Culpability and Provenance]
by Jeffrey Jonas 15 Jan '21

15 Jan '21

replying to Dean Notarnicola > I love tech for techs sake. It can be both art and science. I highly agree. - taking apart old electronics and appliances was my first electronics 'classroom'. Reverse engineering ordinary things shows amazing design and cleverness. Before circuit boards, EVERYTHING was hand-wired and hand-made. There was a human element in everything. High end items got more care, such as lacing-cord on the wires to neatly bundle them. Then zip-ties came along and ruined it all. - most machines interact with people in some way: what we now call the User Interface. Old machines were pieces of art and craftsmanship in everything you saw and touched: every knob and wheel and button. Even the labels were calligraphy. There was artistry in every piece, seen or unseen: curved wheel & gear spokes, artfully carved handles and cabinetry. Even office typewriters tried to appeal to "woman's aesthetics" with gold gilding and artsy appliques. There are several books of "the art of the engineer". Even Adam Savage drools over the amazing functionality of the Studley tool cabinet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_O._Studley Bill Inderrieden and I have enjoyed many conversations about the power stations, factories and industrial facilities he's visited. The buildings and windows all have a wonderful sense of style and function. Even the stair cases and banisters are worthy of the finest hotel. I assert that early CISC machine architecture was very human oriented. The instruction set and options catered to the assembler programmer who required the most direct way to express the problem to the CPU. Instruction set orthogonality is a measure of goodness. And gimme general purpose file registers. LOTSA registers. 16 or more! Every CPU/microprocessor/microcontroller I study shows a unique approach that I admire and respect, thus the incredible variety of microprocessors in the 70s and 80s. Then RISC came along and ruined it all :-( Don't get me wrong, I had the most wonderful RISC course at Concurrent Computer Corp. We were a tough audience. We were all experienced assembler programmers. After programming the IBM 360 in high school, I found the Z80 really weak and tedious to program. But there are many compelling reasons that RISC is the way to go. That course respectfully explained it. That's why I <3 vintage computing: we recreate the FUN and personal satisfaction of the "vintage" computer environment (although they were not vintage when we used 'em!) -- jeff jonas

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Atari ad for sale Commodore 64 PC Booklet Circa 1982 - $425 (Wayne NJ)
by Bruce 15 Jan '21

15 Jan '21

We could all post them all on ebay and buy them back and forth to drive the prices up!!! /s Bruce NJ On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 8:37 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Yes yes yes!!! > > I’ve got magazines from the 1940s I wonder how much that stuffs going to > be worth! > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Jan 14, 2021, at 8:25 PM, Douglas Crawford via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > > > Wow the ads from my '77 - 84 byte magazines are going to make me rich! > RICH! > > >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Atari ad for sale Commodore 64 PC Booklet Circa 1982 - $425 (Wayne NJ)
by Douglas Crawford 15 Jan '21

15 Jan '21

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Commodore 64 PC Booklet Circa 1982 - $425 (Wayne NJ)
by Christian Liendo 14 Jan '21

14 Jan '21

I'm curious if anyone knows who this is? https://newjersey.craigslist.org/sys/d/wayne-commodore-64-pc-booklet-circa-…

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Ken Thompson ACM Fellow Announcment
by Andrew Diller 14 Jan '21

14 Jan '21

Ken Thompson, a recent VCF Keynote speaker (2019), and creator of UNIX became a ACM fellow today: https://awards.acm.org/award_winners/thompson_4588371 and https://awards.acm.org/binaries/content/assets/press-releases/2021/january/… Kenneth Lane Thompson Google For contributions to the development of operating systems theory and for the implementation of the UNIX operating system 2020 ACM FELLOWS RECOGNIZED FOR WORK THAT UNDERPINS CONTEMPORARY COMPUTING International Group Composed of Leaders Across All of Computing’s Disciplines New York, NY, January 13, 2021 – ACM, the Association for Computing Machinery, has named 95 members ACM Fellows for wide-ranging and fundamental contributions in areas including artificial intelligence, cloud computing, computer graphics, computational biology, data science, human-computer interaction, software engineering, theoretical computer science, and virtual reality, among other areas. The accomplishments of the 2020 ACM Fellows have driven innovations that ushered in significant improvements across many areas oftechnology, industry, and personal life. -andy

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Last Video in My PS/2 70 OS/2 Series is Posted
by Alexander Jacocks 14 Jan '21

14 Jan '21

All, I just posted the last video in my PS/2 70 OS/2 2.1 series: https://youtu.be/J8_5q82XPGE I finished installing OS/2, in the last video, so I go through some basics of using OS/2 2.1. Thanks! - Alex

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OT: AMD Phenom II Quad-Core Socket AM3 stuff
by Herb Johnson 13 Jan '21

13 Jan '21

Brief: I'm looking for a central-New Jersey purchase of a desktop, or just a replacement processor, all recent tech (several years old I call recent) not cutting edge. This is too new for general discussion, too old to just buy online. I know some here do this stuff, have these things around. Covid limits my ability to shop around, shipping is a recent nightmare. Also: no workshop visiting. So it's plausible to ask here, for private reply. Those not interested can stop here. So my wife wants to build a particular sort of video server, modest performance quad-core but not cutting edge, Win 8 64 bit operation. We have on hand a decent GigaByte motherboard that supports an AM3 or AM3+ CPU - but we have no CPU, this was a backup board. The prices on 3GHz quad cores are cheap (ten-year old processors), heat sinks are cheap. To put this to use, is plausible. But even old mobos are not expensive, if someone has something they upgraded from not too long ago. Same with an upgraded system. And some mobo that's newer will have USB 3.0, good for external drives. So that's a thing. And a more recent power supply, maybe a decent case, you see where this goes. What I don't want is something that got cooked and overclocked 24/7 to run bitcoin. I want this thing to run for some more years. On a mobo: PCI slot or two, PCI Expr X 1, PCIExp X 16; and USB 3.0 would add value. I might take the whole complete system, decent case and not-abused power supply. No drives, no software - I won't bug you about support (if the stuff isn't crap, it's all on the Web). No junk. The local thing, is someone to DROP OFF in the Princeton/Trenton NJ area. No workshops, I pass. 1) Covid 2) recent shipping nightmares. Just a deal on a processor and heatsink can reasonably ship by mail. Ship a mobo, maybe. Ship a whole system, kinda pointless. So see my email address below and make an inquiry. Not overly rushed but this ought to resolve in a few weeks, a month. Again - if you read this far - I'm not looking to discuss 2010 computing in a vintage computing email list, so keep this private. Thanks for some "old" hardware help. Regards, Herb -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT comcast DOT net

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Interesting take on modern terminals
by Andrew Diller 13 Jan '21

13 Jan '21

Saw this posted on a discord I'm on, and thought it was appropriate for this group: https://uri.cat/projects/modern-retro-terminal/ Some interesting designs and very DIY... -andy

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] vcf-midatlantic Digest, Vol 32, Issue 10
by Eric Rangell 11 Jan '21

11 Jan '21

Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Museum Report 2021-01-10 Hi all, VCF owns an Applesauce floppy disk imager that was donated by John Keoni Morris. Over the past 2 years Tony and I tested it and got two 5.25" Disk II drives to work well with it (replacing the MC3470 amplifiers). It is a deluxe unit, so we also have an Apple 3.5" drive attached. We installed the sync sensors in the Disk II drives so it can create full flux images of GCR floppy disks in A2R and WOZ formats. Unprotected disks can be imaged to DSK or PO using the Fast Disk Imager. The latest version of the software can also create Commodore D64 and Atari image files for emulators. We were also able to image Lisa and Mac 3.5 disks. Yesterday I set up the unit on the Mac Mini in the museum, so it is available for use by anyone who has floppy disks that need to be imaged for preservation. To learn more about Applesauce, visit: https://applesaucefdc.com Thanks, Eric Rangell

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Did you know? Events calendar on VCFed website
by Jeffrey Brace 11 Jan '21

11 Jan '21

This is the website: http://vcfed.org/wp/groups/vcf-mid-atlantic/vcf-mid-atlantic-calendar/ It is found through menu path: Groups ... VCF Mid-Atlantic ... Calendar I also reorganized some of the menu items for clarity. For example, the Steering Committee sub-menu. I will work on other parts of the website in the future. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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Museum Report 2021-01-10
by Jeffrey Brace 10 Jan '21

10 Jan '21

I got the FujiNet working on the Atari 1200. It looks like since the power button on the FujiNet is broken, I have to unplug the micro USB from the FujiNet to reset. And there is an order of power. Power on FujiNet, Power on Atari. And then reverse when shutting off. Bill Dromgoole got the Kleinschmidt printer working from the Univac. It took some work for him to prepare it and some onsite work to get it working. Jeff Salzman got the Zorba working and operating in the museum and able to boot from disk. The Xerox Star is working and operating for visitors to see now. The Osbourne 1 drive B needs looking after as it doesn't seem to work. Some programs need a drive B. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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Repair Workshop Day 2 == 2021-01-10
by Jeffrey Brace 10 Jan '21

10 Jan '21

To quote Jeff Jonas: "This is the best repair workshop in a long time. We got a lot done and a lot of things got fixed." Dmitry got his C128 working. Ryan Morrison got his teletype working after reviewing the schematic. He can give everyone details. Bill Inderrieden and Jeff Jonas got the paper tape reader to read properly. Ian and Connor got the museum IBM System 36 working for the museum. Chris Fala installed a light switch in the warehouse by the door. So no more walking across the room in the dark to turn on the lights anymore! Does anyone else want to chime in on what they worked on? Next month Jeff Salzman is going to do a Commodore repair/demo theme. Pictures and videos from this weekend: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/10KbtBsNn-kEyXKvIPkgTCPLRlofrAk4Y?us… -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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New YouTube Series on VCF's PS/2 Model 70
by Alexander Jacocks 10 Jan '21

10 Jan '21

All, I just started a new video series on the IBM PS/2 Model 70: https://youtu.be/tKha3QLwXgA In the first video, I attempt to install OS/2 2.1 on the machine, and natter on about computing history. Let me know what you think! - Alex

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Feb Repair Workshop - Feb 6 & 7, 2021
by Jeffrey Brace 10 Jan '21

10 Jan '21

*SIGNUP HERE!*: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FytFtk9_rE0Nw_Pk_M9bFVMh324hNwJMwcK… : -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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Workshop Day 1 Jan 9, 2021
by Jeffrey Brace 10 Jan '21

10 Jan '21

A good showing with 18 people socially distanced, wearing masks and spread out over 4 buildings and 5 rooms total. 3 new people came. I will share pictures later. Bill Dromgoole fired up the Univac 1219B the first time in a year. Andy took some video of it and interviewed him. Hopefully it turned out OK. There was some warehouse work including getting a light switch by the door. It will make it greatly convenient! Bill Inderrieden got a Zenith PC to boot up. Jeff Salzman got the Zorba working. Anyone else want to chime in with what they worked on? We will meet again tomorrow at 10AM. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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Museum Report 2021-01-09
by Jeffrey Brace 10 Jan '21

10 Jan '21

Dylan was docent that day. There was some high interest visitors and they loved watching Bill Dromgoole show of, explain and operate the Univac. It is a rare opportunity to see this machine in action and the visitors loved it! They also loved the C64 The Printshop exhibit. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] portable terminal preferences
by Herb Johnson 09 Jan '21

09 Jan '21

> I'm curious what everyone else uses to connect to their various machines. > Straw poll? Thoughts? 1) use a device with a REAL RS-232 UART. Not a USB/serial dongle. http://www.retrotechnology.com/memship/mship_usb.html Here's a somewhat busy note about using a FTDI-brand TTL-to-USB dongle, on a 8-bit microcomputer to a USB based modern computer. It references some other information too. But the problem I want to call out in general, is the "layers of character flow control" section of the document. The problem in brief, is that a USB serial dongle has its own buffers and hardware and software handshaking. It is a microcontroller after all. It's only vaguely controlled by the modern computer with the USB driver, which may or may not have user-means to operate. Most people use these dongles with old "terminal emulators" that think THEY have a buffer and some handshaking control of a UART. The USB driver arbitrates some of that, but not always well. It's all too busy, and generally means a slower sustained baud rate to avoid loss of characters. And for long runs of characters (like XMODEM) you get losses anyway. I think trying to run an 8-bit micro at 19.2K baud at length, is asking for trouble. But people get obsessed about high baud-rates. And certainly it's no fun, to transfer a file and find errors, even with XMODEM and other protocols. So - find a computer with a real, live, UART buried in it. They still exist. And in fact, that GPD MicroPC suggested, *has* (apparently) a RS-232 port. Too fancy for me, any 1990's laptop will do. Some of them still work well. Even some post 2000 laptops and desktops have serial ports. Use those, available from any industrial dumpster. Regards, Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT comcast DOT net

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We made the NY Times (sort of)
by Adam Michlin 08 Jan '21

08 Jan '21

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/style/retrocomputing.html

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Commodore 64 PC Booklet Circa 1982 - $425 (Wayne NJ)
by Chris Fala 08 Jan '21

08 Jan '21

Amusing to a point, but more irritating and infuriating. Glad I acquired a few things when I did, hopeless now. On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 11:52 AM Bob Aviles via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Nuts! > On Friday, January 8, 2021, 11:34:31 AM EST, Christian Liendo via > vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Yes the price is crazy, I just find stuff like this amusing. > > Is like when someone tries to sell a Dodge K car with 100k miles and wants > like $6000 because it's a classic. > > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 10:25 AM Sentrytv <sentrytv(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Well whoever it may be, > > is absolutely freaking nuts when it comes to pricing! > > Kind of like another item I saw on EBay. > > That has been up there for quite a while😆 > > And still hasn’t sold! > > > > Sent from: > > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > > > On Jan 8, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic < > > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > > > I'm curious if anyone knows who this is? > > > > > > > > > https://newjersey.craigslist.org/sys/d/wayne-commodore-64-pc-booklet-circa-… > > > > > >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Commodore 64 PC Booklet Circa 1982 - $425 (Wayne NJ)
by Bill Degnan 08 Jan '21

08 Jan '21

Commodore put these three-fold brochures out a lot over the years. I have never seen that one. Worth $5-10. Bill On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 11:52 AM Bob Aviles via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Nuts! > On Friday, January 8, 2021, 11:34:31 AM EST, Christian Liendo via > vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Yes the price is crazy, I just find stuff like this amusing. > > Is like when someone tries to sell a Dodge K car with 100k miles and wants > like $6000 because it's a classic. > > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 10:25 AM Sentrytv <sentrytv(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Well whoever it may be, > > is absolutely freaking nuts when it comes to pricing! > > Kind of like another item I saw on EBay. > > That has been up there for quite a while😆 > > And still hasn’t sold! > > > > Sent from: > > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > > > On Jan 8, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Christian Liendo via vcf-midatlantic < > > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > > > I'm curious if anyone knows who this is? > > > > > > > > > https://newjersey.craigslist.org/sys/d/wayne-commodore-64-pc-booklet-circa-… > > > > > >

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New Member Dan Fitzgerald
by Jeffrey Brace 07 Jan '21

07 Jan '21

Welcome Dan! Please introduce yourself. How did you find our group? What are your interests? -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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Saturday workshop and stuff
by Sentrytv 06 Jan '21

06 Jan '21

I will be at the Saturday workshop early morning and bringing some stuff with me that I need to get rid of or I would like to get rid of. Not all of it is for sale, some of it is free. I’ll make a short list here contact me off list if interested. TI PEB in shipping box. For sale Ti 99 /4a computer in box. For sale Various cables new. For sale Some used video cables D-link eight port KVM KVM cables AGP video cards some higher end models Some ICs for sale Some security cameras if I can find them Various free stuff also I will only bring the TI stuff if someone is interested , Saturday. Contact me off list please. Mike Rosen Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.

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VGA Monitors (CRT) free
by Kelly Leavitt 06 Jan '21

06 Jan '21

Various. I have too many. Send email off list. Come get them. Wantage NJ. Beer money appreciated but not necessary. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] New Member Dan Fitzgerald
by Bob Aviles 06 Jan '21

06 Jan '21

Hi, and welcome! Bobby On Wednesday, January 6, 2021, 04:27:44 PM EST, Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: Welcome! Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > On Jan 6, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Welcome Dan! > > Please introduce yourself. How did you find our group? What are your > interests? > > -- > ========================================= > Jeff Brace > Vice President & Board Member > Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner > Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity > http://www.vcfed.org/ > jeffrey(a)vcfed.org > cell: 732-759-1783

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New List Member Bob
by Jeffrey Brace 06 Jan '21

06 Jan '21

Welcome Bob! Please introduce yourself to the list. How did you find out about our group? What are your interests? -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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Repair workshop this weekend Jan 9 & 10, 2021
by Jeffrey Brace 06 Jan '21

06 Jan '21

Starting January 2021 we will be charging $15 per person per day. $10 goes to InfoAge and $5 will go to CDL. Signup for January Repair Workshop here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NY5VMcNKIYeP3O9xuKBRtq7FHxpCaAp5-Uo… Remember the spaces are first come first serve to the CDL space. Limited space available. Overflow space in 9032-A building. The workshop is $15 *per* person, *per* day. $10 goes to InfoAge and $5 goes to CDL. Sign up to guarantee a table!!! DATE: January 9 & 10, 2021 LOCATIONS: InfoAge: 2201 Marconi Road, Wall Township, NJ 1) Building 9059 (CDL Hackerspace - Formerly IXR) AND 2) Building 9032-A (Old workshop area in main building) TIME: Saturday START time == 10 A.M. END time == 11PM. Sunday START time == 10 A.M. and END == 5 P.M. SIGNUP: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NY5VMcNKIYeP3O9xuKBRtq7FHxpCaAp5-Uo… Workshop area is limited to 10 people per room and facemasks are required. Hand sanitizer is available. COST: - $15 per person, PER day. This money goes to InfoAge and CDL. - $25 per night for those wanting to stay overnight (Money goes to InfoAge). Please pay ME (Jeff Brace) upon arrival. Cash or PayPal is acceptable as payment. Ask ahead of time if you need to use a credit card. OVERNIGHT: Bring your own pillow, blankets, soap etc. We provide a bed frame and an uncovered mattress. There are showers and a kitchen for your use. - You can pay via PayPal to paypal(a)vcfed.org. or to me via cash or credit card in person. EQUIPMENT: - VCF will provide a table and you can use any available electrical outlet. - Bring your own tools, power strips, power cords, and supplies etc. - If you need particular tools that you don't know or particular parts, please post to the list for those going. They may have what you need. Let them know ahead of time. - Let everyone know what project you are working on ahead of time to inspire collaboration. DRINKS: You should bring your own. We have a refrigerator in CDL to keep them cold. VCF will buy some water and soft drinks for member use. FOOD: *Saturday afternoon*: Pizza from Attilios (Tinton Falls) *Saturday Night*: Main Street Bar and Grill Address: 735 Route 35, Ocean Township, NJ Signup: < https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12QJcSNc0UzsjWO4ECCZTtOI0CL7mwdLJM27… > *Sunday Morning*: Bagel order from Delicious Bagels < https://www.deliciousbagelspointpleasant.com/) Fill out Order here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tsuj7dnUtH-PkE0ITXD70dtJAc1XQki2K1Z… > *Sunday Afternoon*: Wawa order GATE: Please close the gate behind you at all times. We want to discourage random strangers from wandering the campus as well as during museum hours. PARKING: Park in the main parking lot, unless you are unloading. Don't park on the lawn. QUESTIONS? Contact Jeff: 732-759-1783 jeffrey(a)vcfed.org Have fun everyone! -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Paper tape reader
by Derrik Walker v2.0 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

I was watching that. I was wondering what a reasonable value of something like that is. Interesting piece of kit, anyway. - Derrik > On Jan 4, 2021, at 3:25 PM, Bill Dromgoole via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Sold for $167.50 plus shipping. > Not mine. > > Bill > > From: Duane Craps via vcf-midatlantic > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 11:56 AM > To: VCF > Cc: Duane Craps > Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] Paper tape reader > > manual Paper tape reader on ebay, > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-RAECO-TPR-1-Paper-Tape-Reader-w-Schematic-… > > > Duane > > -- > DuaneCraps > sdɐɹɔ ǝuɐnp > >

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Paper tape reader
by Duane Craps 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

manual Paper tape reader on ebay, https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-RAECO-TPR-1-Paper-Tape-Reader-w-Schematic-… Duane -- DuaneCraps sdɐɹɔ ǝuɐnp

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Amiga 2000 Getting files onto floppy disk
by Ethan O'Toole 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

https://www.amigalove.com/viewtopic.php?t=15 Command line transdisk can copy over file On Fri, 1 Jan 2021, Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic wrote: [NON-Text Body part not included]

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portable terminal preferences
by ☼ wil lindsay ☼ 03 Jan '21

03 Jan '21

I've found myself continually searching for a portable (preferably backlit) dedicated terminal/telnet device for various projects. It looks like historically, the portable terminals like the TI Silent 700 series were basically superseded by portable computers (please correct me if I'm wrong). I only see a few examples of the in-between devices such as a Travelmate LT220 or a screen add-on for the Silent 700. My current go-to is to repurpose netbooks with linux and an FTDI cable or over wifi to some hardware connection. This still seems like overkill, but seems like the most usable solution. Clearly, I can just strike up a console on my main laptop, but I like to use something other than the laptop I use for work, paying bills and other dull affairs. This should be fun, right? I'm curious what everyone else uses to connect to their various machines. Straw poll? Thoughts?

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What projects are you working on?
by Jeffrey Brace 03 Jan '21

03 Jan '21

During this time of year many of us are off work or inside for one reason or another. I'm curious what projects everyone is working on. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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free at workshop: monitor, TV
by Jeffrey Jonas 03 Jan '21

03 Jan '21

I have several pleasant monitors for free at the top of the heap: HP 1740 - 17" diagonal, classic 3:4 aspect ratio - 1280 x 1024 - VGA and DVI-D inputs (use a passive adapter/cable for HDMI) - very versatile tilt and height stand - seems to work fine from the bottom of the heap: LG model 26LC7D-UB 26" wide screen TV with lotsa inputs the problem: spazzes out after 3 hours. I see a bad capacitor, that might be the fix. I will bring them ONLY if requested. -- jeff jonas

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Insuring vintage electronics
by Clint 02 Jan '21

02 Jan '21

Random question, but as I'm going through updating my homeowners insurance I'm not sure my vintage electronics are robustly protected. I also haven't found any good providers/opinions on coverage in a few minutes of googling. Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with insurance coverage for relatively small personal collections? -Clint

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dp8340n IBM 3270 protocol transmitter encoder
by William Sudbrink 02 Jan '21

02 Jan '21

Hi, In cleaning up my lab and stores, I have discovered that I have a tube of 10 of these chips. I'm not quite sure what they are for or were used in (or even where I got them). Anyway, if they are, in fact, for managing 3270 mainframe terminal traffic, they're probably not of much use to me. I've also noticed that I'm getting very low in vintage 4000 series CMOS chips. Anybody want to trade? Bill S. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Museum Report 2021-01-01
by Jeffrey Brace 02 Jan '21

02 Jan '21

Recorded some videos for the docents on how to run demos on the CoCo 3, Atari 1040ST, Amiga 1000. There seems to be a booting problem for the Osbourne, so maybe someone can take a look at it during the repair workshop. Also the Atari 1040ST demos seem to be in Black and White, I have no idea. (Thinking out loud, is there an SD card solution for the 1040ST?) I'm still having problems with the FujiNet even with the latest firmware update from a few days ago. I go to run a program and it resets. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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Happy New Year!
by Jeffrey Brace 02 Jan '21

02 Jan '21

This has been a challenging year for everyone, but we have been resilient and made it through this horrible and disappointing year. We were able to still have repair workshops to help keep each other sane and have some vintage computer fellowship and goodness. We made VCF East virtual and it was kick ass! As we slowly get out of the darkness entering into 2021 let's continue to show our strength, reliance and unity in all things vintage computing. The light at the end of the tunnel is in sight. Let's help each other to keep moving forward. We are a great bunch of people and I look forward to the time when we can have large in-person events to celebrate all that we enjoy in this hobby! To you and your family I wish you a Happy and safe New Year! :-D -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783 <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

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Amiga 2000 Getting files onto floppy disk
by Sentrytv 01 Jan '21

01 Jan '21

Good evening Happy new year! I have an AMIGA 2000 that I need to get drivers for the SCSI card Onto a floppy disk. SCSI drivers need to be on my kickstart disk so I can access the hard drives. I only have a Windows computer and I’m not sure how I would be able to get these files onto a floppy disk that the Amiga can read so I can set the configuration properly to see what is on the hard drives. ( 1 SCSI -1 RLL) 2090 card. Right now it has the original configuration. Kickstart 1.2 in ROM. And I am using workbench 1.3 floppy disk to start the system. If I don’t use a workbench floppy disk to start the system, it will prompt me for workbench 1.2. So my goal is to get the drivers onto the kickstart disk so I can access the hard drives At least with a minimal amount of expense. Can anybody help with this, please? Mike Rosen Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device.

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OT: Locked out of group chat on iPhone 6
by Jeffrey Brace 01 Jan '21

01 Jan '21

OK. So I'm in a family group text chat (SMS) since Covid-19 started and there are 14 people in the chat. My uncle has an iPhone 6 and 3 GB of free storage. So after a certain time he is "locked out" of the group conversation and doesn't receive any conversations from the group chat. His belief is that everyone needs to delete the conversation from their phones to get back into the group chat. So he believes that after everyone deletes the conversation, then he will get a flood of conversations again. This seems to happened, but I believe that it is a coincidence. He claims that his phone fills up with 3 GB of messages when everyone doesn't delete the conversation. 1) How can I explain to him that this is not how smart phones work? 2) How can I troubleshoot the *real* problem so that it doesn't keep happening? Also he doesn't want to get a new phone because he can't afford it. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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OT: LTO-5 tape library
by Mike Loewen 01 Jan '21

01 Jan '21

Does anyone have a used LTO-5 tape library they want to sell? Looking to upgrade from SDLT 320. :-) Mike Loewen mloewen(a)cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

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OT - Vintage Voice Technology
by Martin Flynn 01 Jan '21

01 Jan '21

I need to convert a SIP trunk to 8 physical ISDN BRI, U interface. Why: The BRI equipment is too expensive to replace. Here's what I have: Cisco 2610XM 10/100 with four VIC-2BRI-NT/TE (two in the main chassis and two in an NM-HD-2V module) Anyone's Cisco-Fu strong enough to tackle configuring this? Martin

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Jan 9 & 10, 2021 Repair Workshop Info
by Jeffrey Brace 01 Jan '21

01 Jan '21

Starting in January we will be charging $15 per person per day. $10 goes to InfoAge and $5 will go to CDL. Signup for January Repair Workshop here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NY5VMcNKIYeP3O9xuKBRtq7FHxpCaAp5-Uo… Remember the spaces are first come first serve to the CDL space. Limited space available. Overflow space in 9032-A building. The workshop is $15 *per* person, *per* day. $10 goes to InfoAge and $5 goes to CDL. Sign up to guarantee a table!!! DATE: January 9 & 10, 2021 LOCATION (two locations): InfoAge: 2201 Marconi Road, Wall Township, NJ 1) Building 9059 (CDL Hackerspace - Formerly IXR) AND 2) Building 9032-A (Old workshop area in main building) TIME: Saturday START time == 10 A.M. END time == 11PM. Sunday START time == 10 A.M. and END == 5 P.M. SIGNUP: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NY5VMcNKIYeP3O9xuKBRtq7FHxpCaAp5-Uo… Workshop area is limited to 10 people per room and facemasks are required. Hand sanitizer is available. COST: - $15 per person, PER day. This money goes to InfoAge and CDL. - $25 per night for those wanting to stay overnight (Money goes to InfoAge). Please pay ME (Jeff Brace) upon arrival. Cash or PayPal is acceptable as payment. Ask ahead of time if you need to use a credit card. OVERNIGHT: Bring your own pillow, blankets, soap etc. We provide a bed frame and an uncovered mattress. There are showers and a kitchen for your use. - You can pay via PayPal to paypal(a)vcfed.org. or to me via cash or credit card in person. EQUIPMENT: - VCF will provide a table and you can use any available electrical outlet. - Bring your own tools, power strips, power cords, and supplies etc. - If you need particular tools that you don't know or particular parts, please post to the list for those going. They may have what you need. Let them know ahead of time. - Let everyone know what project you are working on ahead of time to inspire collaboration. DRINKS: You should bring your own. We have a refrigerator in CDL to keep them cold. VCF will buy some water and soft drinks for member use. FOOD: *Saturday afternoon*: Pizza from Attilios (Tinton Falls) *Saturday Night*: To be determined. *Sunday Morning*: Bagel order from Delicious Bagels ( https://www.deliciousbagelspointpleasant.com/) Fill out Order here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tsuj7dnUtH-PkE0ITXD70dtJAc1XQki2K1Z… *Sunday Afternoon*: Wawa order GATE: Please close the gate behind you at all times. We want to discourage random strangers from wandering the campus as well as during museum hours. PARKING: Park in the main parking lot, unless you are unloading. Don't park on the lawn. QUESTIONS? Contact Jeff: 732-759-1783 jeffrey(a)vcfed.org Have fun everyone! -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783 -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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February Repair Workshop Date change
by Jeffrey Brace 01 Jan '21

01 Jan '21

I'm thinking that I need to reschedule the February Repair workshop. I didn't realize that February 7 is Superbowl Sunday. Anyone have any problems with February 13 & 14? -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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Museum Report 2020-12-31
by Jeffrey Brace 31 Dec '20

31 Dec '20

Yes, I was doing museum stuff on New Year's Eve. Why not work on a fun hobby when I can't go out? Bill Inderrieden, Jeff Jonas and I worked on various projects. These are the ones that I worked on: * Connected and tested the IBM PCjr keyboard adapter. The infrared keyboard was malfunctioning probably because the batteries were going bad, so replaced with a telephone wire adapter and works great! * Recorded video of GEOS 128, GeoPaint 128, GeoWrite 128. Both in 40 and 80 column mode and sent to Adam * Copied CoCo3 programs to CoCo SD card adapter and tested. * Documented which VCF East videos we have digitized and which we don't. I will be back tomorrow to work on other projects. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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Second YouTube Video on the Ultra 5
by Alexander Jacocks 31 Dec '20

31 Dec '20

I just published my second video, in my series on the Sun Ultra 5 workstation. In that video, I show how to image a drive, upgrade the system’s RAM, and install Solaris 2.6: https://youtu.be/BLka4xtMkYw - Alex

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VCF t-shirt design
by Jeffrey Brace 30 Dec '20

30 Dec '20

Hello everyone, I'm looking for an artist to design next year's VCF t-shirt. Obviously this would be a volunteer effort. I'm looking for someone who can work on a design quickly with fast turnaround time. If you or someone that you know has the interest and ability, then please send me a private email. Thanks! -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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Museum Report 2020-12-29
by Jeffrey Brace 29 Dec '20

29 Dec '20

Corey, Bill Inderrieden and I worked on various projects. Including finishing up the paper tape reader/puncher. Corey found another Sol-20 board in the warehouse as he has been going crazy trying to figure out what is wrong with it. He had done a lot of repair work on the one in the museum, but after much troubleshooting and repair, there is still as mystery as to what is going on. Here is EAK!, The Tech Support Chicken trying to help him: EAK_SOL_20 <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kW0mHh53c0vr3ODiTT6bLtwSSo425Zqp/view?usp=…> We also switched around the Bendix G15 desk with the Computer/Tape Drive. It looks cleaner and better. File_000.jpeg <https://drive.google.com/file/d/19Mu7uF49c1NRKyLaJ7qeooMMQbWSJvv_/view?usp=…> File_001.jpeg <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-uOYHsrB6nycFNg8QlSSyGdKs4yN2jS2/view?usp=…> We started brainstorming some other ideas as we were there. Bill and I plan on going there again tomorrow to get some other projects done. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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Museum Report 2020-12-28
by Jeffrey Brace 29 Dec '20

29 Dec '20

We met from 1 to 4PM and worked on various projects in the museum. Corey worked on getting his paper tape copier. It works great reading in and punching out. Some mylar ones were too shiny and didn't read correctly. Bill Inderrieden word on putting up some IBM signs to put over the IBM 1130. I worked on tracking down provenance on particular artifacts. I found 3 out of 4 of them and am working on the last one. I also found some more and will continue recording the information. Although we could have done a lot of this by ourselves, it was more fun and productive to do it together. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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What projects are you working on?
by Blatboy 29 Dec '20

29 Dec '20

Re: my last email to the group Apologies for the bad subject heading and yeah, those are 4016s not 8016s. I need to proofread more. It's not like I don't have the time! haha :) Walter ++++++++++++++++++++++ https://jwalterhawkes.com like to know where/when I'm playing? Click here to sign up for my list, and let the babble begin.

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