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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Recovering Macintosh floppies
by Douglas Crawford 14 May '24

14 May '24

How about this group of experts just come to a workshop and set up the quintessential set of media tools for us instead of tossing out theoretical solutions as to what is best. And prove it out, and document it for how to handle all the popular media we might need to deal with. Oh and commit to maintaining it. Thanks. DC On 5/13/2024 4:59 PM, Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic wrote: -- Douglas Crawford VCF Mid-Atlantic Museum Mgr InfoAge Science & History Museums 2201 Marconi Road Wall, NJ 07719

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Recovering Macintosh floppies
by Douglas Crawford 14 May '24

14 May '24

Our greaseweasle is working on the PC. I can't remember if the 3.5" drive I installed is low or high density. I have made Amiga disks with it successfully. -- Douglas Crawford VCF Mid-Atlantic Museum Mgr InfoAge Science & History Museums 2201 Marconi Road Wall, NJ 07719

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Recovering Macintosh floppies
by David Ryskalczyk 14 May '24

14 May '24

There is an Applesauce at the museum that may be usable for this. I can’t remember if it has a 3.5” drive that can be connected to it. If these are 1.44 MB “HD” disks, they would be easier to read — those can typically be read with even a USB floppy drive and software such as ddrescue. If not, and these are 400K/800K disks, the Applesauce with appropriate drive would be the best option. 3.5” drives compatible with the unit at the museum are the Apple 3.5” Drive (A9M0106) and the FDHD (G7287) — other drives are not compatible. An A9M0106 with an FDHD internal mechanism installed would also work. Be sure to unplug the Applesauce from USB before changing drives, and only ever connect one drive at a time. To tell the disks apart, the person can look for the HD hole as well as the HD markings on the disk itself. Considering these disks are from a Quadra, they could be either. Once the disks are imaged, I have typically used emulators such as SheepShaver to extract the data. Additionally, LibreOffice can open many legacy formats directly. David > On May 10, 2024, at 8:02 AM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > OK. No one answered this. Does anyone have working Quadra and is local to > InfoAge? > > Someone is looking to recover files from a 3.5 floppy disk. It is unknown > which software it was made with. > > He needs to: > > > - Print out the files (each is a character study of no more than 10 > print pages) > - Open the files and allow him to use his cell phone to capture each > page to re-type on his PC > - Or provide some other way of capturing the file contents so he can > re-create these data on a modern computer. > > > > Let me know if you are local and can help. > > > Thanks! > > > Jeff > >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 11:00 PM Jeffrey Brace <jeffrey(a)vcfed.org> wrote: >> Is there someone coming to the repair workshop that can help someone >> recover Macintosh files from 3.5" disks? Likely they are word processing >> files from a Quadra. >> Please let me know. >> Thanks! >> Jeff Brace

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] 47-Ton Cheyenne Supercomputer Sold To Mystery Buyer For $480, 000 (Herbert Johnson)
by David Waybright 13 May '24

13 May '24

It's already been proven on LTT that if anyone trys to use this system the repairs, PM, up keep, power, and all other expenses to run it makes it useless compared to todays tech! It's only worth parting out unless the damage has turned it into scrap! Sadly I fear when the hardware goes on ebay because no one will know whether it might have been damaged and that shear volume of hardware on ebay at one time will make the prices drop HARD! Thanks, David Eugene Waybright CompTIA A+, NET+, & Security+ Technician Crestron Certified CIV-E Intelligent Video Engineer, CIV-D Intelligent Video Designer & CIV-S Intelligent Video Specialist Crestron Certified Masters Technology Architect; Core, Flex, DMC-D-4K & E-4K, SCT-R & C, DCT-R & C, TCT-R & C AVMM Engineer; Audio & Shades Technician Extron Certified A/V Associate IT Operations & Secure Infrastructure Specialist Tesla Referral Code: https://ts.la/david55244 Please use my referral for a free demo drive, also $500 Off + 3 mo. FSD on Model 3 & Y, $1,000 Off + 3 mo. FSD on Model S & X, & $500 Off Solar TeslaFi Referral Code: https://www.teslafi.com/signup.php?referred=Dwaybright receive a one-month trial instead of two weeks. Tessie Referral Code: https://share.tessie.com/QpzcnbTb5yb receive one month free when you sign up. ChargePoint Home Pro, CPF25, CPF50, CPH50, CT4000, CP6000, OnRamp, Express 100, 200,& 250 Certified Technician [cid:1866a347-ddb4-4687-876d-24fcefd728dc]<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/0f52d73c69ad43ffb4490b6e75ed0de2…> Book time to meet with me<https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/0f52d73c69ad43ffb4490b6e75ed0de2…> ________________________________ From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces(a)lists.vcfed.org> on behalf of vcf-midatlantic-request(a)lists.vcfed.org <vcf-midatlantic-request(a)lists.vcfed.org> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2024 8:00 AM To: vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> Subject: vcf-midatlantic Digest, Vol 72, Issue 12 Send vcf-midatlantic mailing list submissions to vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.vcfed.org/mailman/listinfo/vcf-midatlantic or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to vcf-midatlantic-request(a)lists.vcfed.org You can reach the person managing the list at vcf-midatlantic-owner(a)lists.vcfed.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of vcf-midatlantic digest..." Today's Topics: 1. 47-Ton Cheyenne Supercomputer Sold To Mystery Buyer For $480, 000 (Herbert Johnson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 11 May 2024 11:22:43 -0400 From: Herbert Johnson <hjohnson(a)retrotechnology.info> To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] 47-Ton Cheyenne Supercomputer Sold To Mystery Buyer For $480, 000 Message-ID: <081ed6c2-fc30-4cee-8187-b304dab4d347(a)retrotechnology.info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed There's speculation about what might be done with this computer, what it costs to run, value of parts. Consider how *massive* this system is, running costs, maintenance. Plumbing - pipes with fluids to every board - is a serious problem, it's literally leaking. Seven year old processors and RAM have some value, but thousands of them? storage? transaction costs? Either junking or reuse, is a business proposition that needs like a million dollars capitalization (half to buy, the rest to fund removal & storage and reinstallation, pay for the first month of operation, or months of storage for resale, costs like those). I found two resources online which are informative (doesn't mean every post is fact-based). https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/05/07/cheyenne-supercomputer-sold-to-myst… The local newspaper has some thoughtful considerations. Actual reportage! How about that. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40197277 This is pretty informative, posts from people who actually deinstalled and or run computers or parted-out computers of this class. Since the universe of bidders was small, what some winner might do is hard to predict. Doesn't seem like the sale price was for parting-out, more like for reuse where electricity and labor is cheaper. But anyone with a million dollar budget could have bought this for any oddball reason. Oddball at scale is entirely possible. Word will likely emerge. Regards Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey USA https://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT comcast DOT net End of vcf-midatlantic Digest, Vol 72, Issue 12 ***********************************************

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Indiegogo Keyboard for your Commodore computer!
by Christian Liendo 13 May '24

13 May '24

Someone is making new Commodore Keyboards https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/keyboard-for-your-commodore-computer#/

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF East 2024 Podcast Episode 1
by Jeffrey Brace 12 May '24

12 May '24

On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 11:11 PM Ryan Stapleton via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Hello All, > > I wanted to share my buddy Rich and my podcast where we talk about VCF > East 2024! > > This is episode 1 of 2 where episode 2 will drop in a few weeks. > > I hope you enjoy! I know we enjoyed the show! > > http://www.rnrdoesstuff.com/podcast/ep-012-vcf-east-2024-part1/ Ryan, I put this on the VCF East main page <https://vcfed.org/events/vintage-computer-festival-east/> which has a link that goes to Podcasts <https://vcfed.org/vcf-east-2024-podcasts/> I will archive these webpages before I update the VCF East pages, but this page won't change because it is already specific. Let me know when Part 2 comes out and I will add it to the Podcasts page. Thanks! Jeff Brace > > > Thank you > -Ryan

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Disk management software for other operating systems
by Gregg Levine 12 May '24

12 May '24

Hello! Let's set a few pointers, for earlier Linux systems, the distribution writers expected the installer to use the Rawrite program to create disks from files from the CD (or DVD) of the distribution if the system couldn't boot from that media. That program ran on MS-DOS, inside the Linux host the tool typically was the dd program. That is to make the images. But on the Apple, it gets more peculiar, a group of enthusiasts wrote a collection of programs to package disks on the PC for sending to an Internet archive called Asimov, and they also wrote a program called Ciderpress to manage the building of disk images from extracted files. (Also to other places.) Has anyone come across a utility that runs on ProDOS to recreate a disk image onto a proper disk size, that runs on the system itself? There are a whole collection of utilities on the Asimov site that will do almost anything, but I figured I'd ask in here first. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8(a)gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

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47-Ton Cheyenne Supercomputer Sold To Mystery Buyer For $480, 000
by Herbert Johnson 11 May '24

11 May '24

There's speculation about what might be done with this computer, what it costs to run, value of parts. Consider how *massive* this system is, running costs, maintenance. Plumbing - pipes with fluids to every board - is a serious problem, it's literally leaking. Seven year old processors and RAM have some value, but thousands of them? storage? transaction costs? Either junking or reuse, is a business proposition that needs like a million dollars capitalization (half to buy, the rest to fund removal & storage and reinstallation, pay for the first month of operation, or months of storage for resale, costs like those). I found two resources online which are informative (doesn't mean every post is fact-based). https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/05/07/cheyenne-supercomputer-sold-to-myst… The local newspaper has some thoughtful considerations. Actual reportage! How about that. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40197277 This is pretty informative, posts from people who actually deinstalled and or run computers or parted-out computers of this class. Since the universe of bidders was small, what some winner might do is hard to predict. Doesn't seem like the sale price was for parting-out, more like for reuse where electricity and labor is cheaper. But anyone with a million dollar budget could have bought this for any oddball reason. Oddball at scale is entirely possible. Word will likely emerge. Regards Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey USA https://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT comcast DOT net

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47-Ton Cheyenne Supercomputer Sold To Mystery Buyer For $480, 000
by Christian Liendo 10 May '24

10 May '24

OK, who bought this? Dave, did you get this? https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/05/07/cheyenne-supercomputer-sold-to-myst…

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Recommended PBS Documentary
by Chris Fala 09 May '24

09 May '24

The title is "Silicon Valley", and is an episode of the PBS series, "American Experience". Below is the link to Prime. This is an excellent history of Silicon Valley, focusing on one of the co-founders of Intel, Robert Noyce. I was reminded of this show when a friend and I were chatting a few weeks ago. I was surprised that he never heard of the "Traitorous Eight" who left Shockley Semiconductor to form Fairchild Semiconductor. I initially saw the documentary when it was free on broadcast TV, then again years later on YouTube, but it has apparently been taken down from free video streaming outlets. It seems that it is only available on Amazon Prime with the PBS Documentary subscription. I don't intend to pay for the subscription but got the free trial and re-watched the documentary a few times. I feel that it is definitely worthwhile. Let me know if you see/saw it and your thoughts, I think it would make for a good discussion. https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B08F3GYY4N/

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