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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Semi-OT: many oscilloscopes for sale in NJ
by William Dudley 20 Sep '23

20 Sep '23

Instead of assuming these are all broken, it might be better to contact the seller? I don't think you can get a scope like the 2465 for a couple of hundred dollars. That's a FOUR channel 300MHz scope. It looks like the seller has more than one. Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 12:35 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Bill has a good point. > > I’ve been working on equipment for many years and often, the time spent is > just not worth it. > But if you really have your heart set on an old Tek scope, then it is > worth it in the long run. > > Otherwise, for those who don’t want to spend the time, a digital scope for > a few hundred dollars or less is probably better. > > Mike R. > > > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Sep 20, 2023, at 10:40 AM, Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > If you ask me (and no one did, but...) I don't mess with vintage repair > > equipment unless there is no substitute (like a tube tester). For *me* > > given I am of limited skill to begin with, a scope should be fairly new, > > clean and calibrated. Unless you're into restoring voltmeters and scopes > > and such I would spend only $900 for a modern scope. Essentially I need > > working low-milage test equipment for my vintage repairs, if only so to > > control fault variables. > > > > Bill > > > >> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 10:20 AM Devin Heitmueller via vcf-midatlantic < > >> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >> > >>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 7:38 PM William Dudley via vcf-midatlantic > >>> <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> On facebook marketplace: > >>> > >>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3526479520940602/ > >>> > >>> Now, I already have all the scopes I can use, but some of you may need > >>> one (or an upgrade to what you already have). There are some good > scopes > >>> in here, as well as other things like signal generators. > >>> > >>> The seller shows no interest in selling the pieces one at a time. He > >> wants > >>> to unload the lot. His price has been all over the place. It started > at > >>> $500, > >>> then 400, then 300, then $1700 (!), and now it's down to $900. > >>> > >>> If several of y'all wanted to go in together on this lot it'd probably > be > >>> worth > >>> your while, if this stuff works. > >>> > >>> I have no connection to the seller. I just don't want the scopes to > end > >> up > >>> in > >>> the dumpster. > >> > >> Wow, my first real scope was a Tek 465 just like the one pictured. > >> > >> The price being all over the place makes combined with no idea whether > >> any of them work makes this feel like a gamble. Given the fact that > >> you can buy scopes new for so cheap I'm not sure it's worth it (I > >> bought a Tektronix dual channel 50Mhz scope for less than $500 a few > >> years back, and scopes by companies like Rigol are much cheaper than > >> that). > >> > >> I'm all for not seeing good test gear end up in a landfill, but > >> oscilloscopes are essentially a commodity at this point and there > >> isn't a significant cost advantage in not buying new (unless you can > >> get one for free). > >> > >> Devin > >> > >

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Semi-OT: many oscilloscopes for sale in NJ
by William Dudley 20 Sep '23

20 Sep '23

On facebook marketplace: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3526479520940602/ Now, I already have all the scopes I can use, but some of you may need one (or an upgrade to what you already have). There are some good scopes in here, as well as other things like signal generators. The seller shows no interest in selling the pieces one at a time. He wants to unload the lot. His price has been all over the place. It started at $500, then 400, then 300, then $1700 (!), and now it's down to $900. If several of y'all wanted to go in together on this lot it'd probably be worth your while, if this stuff works. I have no connection to the seller. I just don't want the scopes to end up in the dumpster. Bill Dudley NJ This email is free of malware because I run Linux.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Semi-OT: many oscilloscopes for sale in NJ
by Jeff Galinat 20 Sep '23

20 Sep '23

When I went looking for a scope, admittedly I was looking for that I was familiar with, like the scopes I used at IBM. As a customer engineer I used Tek 453, 454, 475 and a 2465. Shopping at hamfests I initially found a 454 for around $50 but a few years later I found an ex-IBM 475 with DM44 (digital meter module) for $60 and finally I found a 2445 (little 150mhz brother to the 2465) on Craigslist for $150. FWIW, I tested all of these scopes for basic operation using a probe and the calibration output before handing over the money. While I personally wouldn’t but a similar lot of condition unknown scopes, I just wanted to point out that decent used scopes are available at a decent price if you keep your eyes open. All of these scopes are great for the hobby and I have to admit that the user interface is much less confusing to me than the Rigol DS1054z digital scope I bought. I guess you can’t teach an old dog new tricks. 😀 Jeff On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 10:35 AM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Bill has a good point. > > I’ve been working on equipment for many years and often, the time spent is > just not worth it. > But if you really have your heart set on an old Tek scope, then it is > worth it in the long run. > > Otherwise, for those who don’t want to spend the time, a digital scope for > a few hundred dollars or less is probably better. > > Mike R. > > > > >

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PDP-8 Ebay Auction ends soon
by Bill Degnan 20 Sep '23

20 Sep '23

Get it now! https://www.ebay.com/itm/145293119327 ($25,000) Bill

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] OT: Supermarkets with hot food in the area of infoage
by Chris Fala 20 Sep '23

20 Sep '23

Costco has hot, inexpensive, whole rotisserie chickens, and is very close to InfoAge. On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 3:29 PM rstaab via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Shoprite in Wall/Belmar is no more than 5 miles and has hot food for sale > including chicken. > -------- Original message --------From: Christian Liendo via > vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> Date: 9/20/23 2:50 PM > (GMT-05:00) To: vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> Cc: Christian Liendo > <cliendo(a)gmail.com> Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] OT: Supermarkets with hot > food in the area of > infoage For the holiday party I normally go get chicken wings from Cluck > U.Now I like Cluck U, but I also like the chicken wings from thesupermarket > near me and they are cheaper.Are there supermarkets that also cater in the > area and I can check pricing?If I can get more wings for the same money and > the wings are good thenI will get them instead. I don't want to buy them > here and they getcold on the drive there.

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OT: Supermarkets with hot food in the area of infoage
by Christian Liendo 20 Sep '23

20 Sep '23

For the holiday party I normally go get chicken wings from Cluck U. Now I like Cluck U, but I also like the chicken wings from the supermarket near me and they are cheaper. Are there supermarkets that also cater in the area and I can check pricing? If I can get more wings for the same money and the wings are good then I will get them instead. I don't want to buy them here and they get cold on the drive there.

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Looking for TI99 and OSI?
by Ethan O'Toole 18 Sep '23

18 Sep '23

Hello all! I am doing a little bit of international swap and buying with someone in England. He is looking for a TI-99/4A. Before I pull the trigger on something from eBay or Facebook marketplace, anyone have a boxed TI-99/$A you aren't in love with? Also some carts would be cool. I have some carts if I can find them, I just can't remember what I had. He also has an interest in Ohio Scientific. I am a bit surprised as I think he is younger but is into 70s era micros. Said he has a IMSAI and also he has one of the first micros ever produced in England. Looks like a BBC Micro model B is in my future, and he already picked up the Acorn Archemedies A4000 for me (which does need a little work.) That was the system I was mainly after. Hope everyone is doing well on your collecting and repairs! - Ethan

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Livestreamed talk tonight at 6:30PM EDT on VCFederation YouTube channel
by Jeffrey Brace 17 Sep '23

17 Sep '23

Hello everyone, Just a reminder to watch the livestreamed talk tonight on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@vcfederation I will be moderating this informal talk with Liza Loop, Cynthia Solmon, Brian Silverman, Margaret Morabito. You can send questions in the chat too! Thanks! Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner VCF Mid-Atlantic Event Manager Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity https://vcfed.org/ <http://www.vcfed.org/> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Good inexpensive storage in NJ
by Jeff Salzman 13 Sep '23

13 Sep '23

Northern VA, I-81, or Northern VA, I-95? Sounds like a road trip from Southern PA here, Z! On Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 7:40 PM Alexander Pierson via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > I've had a storage unit in the boonies far enough away from the Northern > VA suburbs for the past decade to keep costs down. It was mainly to house > the stuff my dad gave me when he downsized and moved up north, so it was a > mix of all sorts of things, plus my then-meager vintage computing > collection. I'm paying about 2 grand a year for a climate controlled 10x20 > unit, which is close enough to visit in a ~75 minute drive each way. It's > some local company, rather than a big name franchise. > > Since moving from a tiny condo to a larger townhouse in 2020, a > significant portion of stuff came out of storage. However, I'm overdue to > find a crew of able-bodied folks to help me pull everything out, sort > through it, repack the stuff that stays, and pitch some of the crap. Maybe > I can reduce to a smaller unit, who knows. There's a handful of stuff I've > been slowly offloading at VCFs as my interests have focused on specific > things. > > > -Alexander 'Z' Pierson > On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 06:37:48 PM EDT, David Gesswein via > vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Enterprise truck was the best I found for liftgate trucks. Not sure if > the one I > rented was rated for 3000 pounds or is that in multiple separate units? > > 16' lift gate $89/day $.29 per mile with 300 free miles. > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 04:17:15PM -0400, Ethan O'Toole via > vcf-midatlantic wrote: > > > > I still have a storage unit in Norfolk VA. It's maybe 10x10 or 10x15 max. > > > > It's just some left over stuff, but the one computer in it weighs around > > 3000 pounds so I need to use a truck with a liftgate to move it. In > addition > > to that, Star Wars vector sit down arcade game, some relay racks, some > white > > boards, etc. Truck would cost around $800 I think to move from Norfolk to > > Northern VA, rental and fuel? So I haven't done it yet. Storage will be > same > > price or more where I live. > > > > I mean if VCF wanted to put the computer on display... would be cool to > have > > it running on display (208-240v @ 90 amp service, but really draws maybe > 12 > > amps or so as I recall.) Software kernel panics on boot. Not sure it's > > exciting to watch. > > > > > > > > > > > > OK. Now I have to ask, what percentage of fellow list members have > at > > > > least one storage place, defined by "not in my house or apartment" > that you > > > > pay for each month to store stuff including at least some vintage > computer > > > > gear? > > > > b > >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Good inexpensive storage in NJ
by Christian Liendo 12 Sep '23

12 Sep '23

Many storage companies require you take their insurance policy for a fee. I'm paying $20 just for insurance. I dont know if infoage wants to get into that. It would bring in revenue, but it would also require a large initial capital cost and management costs. The revenue would have to be worth it and it may not be worth it. I would rather have my computers and stuff there because it would be convenient to do repair weekends and shows. But what is convenient for me may not be for infoage. On Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 9:48 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > You know I was thinking the same thing or something very similar. > There is so much storage space available in InfoAge that they could rent > out space, but that would be a liability and insurance issue. > > But if it ever did happen and that they wanted to rent out space I would > definitely do it. > > Mike R. > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > >

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