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Coast Star Article on InfoAge and VCF re-opening Aug. 1
by Jeffrey Brace 31 Jul '20

31 Jul '20

The Coast Star newspaper had an article about InfoAge reopening. See attached. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member, VCF East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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Sunday Repair workshop 8/2 Cancelled
by Jeffrey Brace 31 Jul '20

31 Jul '20

A lot of people had plans already this weekend and were already planning on coming to the workshop on Aug 15 & 16. Nobody is signed up as of now, so I'm cancelling the repair workshop for this Sunday Aug 2. Saturday is still available. Anyone can still repair stuff on Saturday, but no one is signed up as of now so we will be doing the watch party Saturday and working on some museum repairs ourselves. Corey and I have to support Erik and his VCF West 2020 Virtual Festival. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member, VCF East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] 8080 programmer trainer
by Jeff Galinat 31 Jul '20

31 Jul '20

I had purchased an MST-80 off eBay a few years ago and the primary reason was I wanted the clean white/gold ceramic 8080 for use in my IMSAI. I replaced that CPU with a brown ceramic 8080 and resold it to another list member for my original purchase price. One cool feature of the keypad & monitor program is that data can be entered/displayed in either Hex or Octal just by toggling the H/O key on the pad. I think this is very handy as many people learned the 8080 opcodes in octal (like the Altair panel is laid out) while other folks like me learned them in hex. I worked for IBM and was trained to use hex notation while some of my friends who used mini's like the PDP-8s used octal. I thought this was a very handy feature to implement. Regards, Jeff On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 5:14 AM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Thanks for the info > I have not had time to research yet. > I’m going to check it out today. > 👌🏽 > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Doug Crawford <memphis(a)ptd.net> wrote: > > > > The MST-80 with ceramic ics- the ICs are worth more than the trainer. > > One with plastic ICs is going for $200 right now. > > Probably the going rate these days. Not a lot have transacted in recent > memory. > > Its a really nice little unit. I have one. > > Rarer than the Heathkit. > > DC > > > >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] 8080 programmer trainer
by Bill Degnan 31 Jul '20

31 Jul '20

http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/heath/index.htm Assuming it's an ec3400 More valuable if you have the RAM expansion box, and if they work or almost function properly that helps. They're not expensive in ebay, in fact this model is popular and cheap, a lot of people like these and I am sure you'll find people at the workshop with experience. Here is mine: https://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=553 Currently it's in display at kennettclassic.com Bill On Thu, Jul 30, 2020, 7:49 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Absolutely. > I was Knee-deep in raccoon S—t so I took a couple of pictures. > But now that I cleaned it up I can take some better pictures and look it > up on the Internet if necessary. > I found a few trainers including 2 HeathKits. > And I’ll bring them all to the workshop probably on the 16th. > I also have the Kaypro II, that once I clean it up and check it out a > little bit, I’ll bring it to also. > Mike R. > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Jul 30, 2020, at 3:16 PM, Doug Crawford <memphis(a)ptd.net> wrote: > > > > Yessir, if you can identify it we can look it up. It must have some > identifying text on it. > > > >> On 7/30/2020 2:47 PM, Sentrytv wrote: > >> Guys and gals > >> We are off subject !! > >> I sent an email asking about an 8080 trainer > >> The subject was not about attachments. > >> So please let’s keep to MY subject, or start a new one. > >> Mike R. > >> Please don’t take this personally. > >> > >> Sent from: > >> My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > >> > >>>> On Jul 30, 2020, at 1:16 PM, ☼ wil lindsay ☼ via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I'm sure this has been discussed many times before I joined, but is > there > >>>> anything wrong with linking from an anonymous image hostlike imgr? > This is > >>>> done on several platforms to keep bandwidth down and make > image-viewing an > >>>> option. > >>>> As an example: https://imgur.com/gallery/EEzixyX > >>>> allows 1 or multiple images, and was painless to setup and share. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 1:08 PM Mike Loewen via vcf-midatlantic < > >>>> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 7/30/20 11:52 AM, Jonathan Gevaryahu via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > >>>>>> This honestly reminds me: who runs the list at the moment, and > would it > >>>>>> make sense, with the modern day and age, to disable the automatic > >>>>>> stripping of attachments? Even if only .jpg and .png files are > allowed, > >>>>>> and only under a certain size, that would be a massive improvement. > >>>>> That's an opinion that is not universally held. > >>>>> > >>>>> -Dave > >>>> I agree with Dave. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Mike Loewen mloewen(a)cpumagic.scol.pa.us > >>>> Old Technology > http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/ > >>>> > > >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] 8080 programmer trainer
by Sentrytv 31 Jul '20

31 Jul '20

Thanks for the info I have not had time to research yet. I’m going to check it out today. 👌🏽 Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Doug Crawford <memphis(a)ptd.net> wrote: > > The MST-80 with ceramic ics- the ICs are worth more than the trainer. > One with plastic ICs is going for $200 right now. > Probably the going rate these days. Not a lot have transacted in recent memory. > Its a really nice little unit. I have one. > Rarer than the Heathkit. > DC > >> On 7/30/2020 7:49 PM, Sentrytv wrote: >> Absolutely. >> I was Knee-deep in raccoon S—t so I took a couple of pictures. >> But now that I cleaned it up I can take some better pictures and look it up on the Internet if necessary. >> I found a few trainers including 2 HeathKits. >> And I’ll bring them all to the workshop probably on the 16th. >> I also have the Kaypro II, that once I clean it up and check it out a little bit, I’ll bring it to also. >> Mike R. >> >> Sent from: >> My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. >> >>> On Jul 30, 2020, at 3:16 PM, Doug Crawford <memphis(a)ptd.net> wrote: >>> >>> Yessir, if you can identify it we can look it up. It must have some identifying text on it. >>> >>> On 7/30/2020 2:47 PM, Sentrytv wrote: >>>> Guys and gals >>>> We are off subject !! >>>> I sent an email asking about an 8080 trainer >>>> The subject was not about attachments. >>>> So please let’s keep to MY subject, or start a new one. >>>> Mike R. >>>> Please don’t take this personally. >>>> >>>> Sent from: >>>> My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. >>>> >>>>>> On Jul 30, 2020, at 1:16 PM, ☼ wil lindsay ☼ via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm sure this has been discussed many times before I joined, but is there >>>>>> anything wrong with linking from an anonymous image hostlike imgr? This is >>>>>> done on several platforms to keep bandwidth down and make image-viewing an >>>>>> option. >>>>>> As an example: https://imgur.com/gallery/EEzixyX >>>>>> allows 1 or multiple images, and was painless to setup and share. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 1:08 PM Mike Loewen via vcf-midatlantic < >>>>>> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 7/30/20 11:52 AM, Jonathan Gevaryahu via vcf-midatlantic wrote: >>>>>>>> This honestly reminds me: who runs the list at the moment, and would it >>>>>>>> make sense, with the modern day and age, to disable the automatic >>>>>>>> stripping of attachments? Even if only .jpg and .png files are allowed, >>>>>>>> and only under a certain size, that would be a massive improvement. >>>>>>> That's an opinion that is not universally held. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Dave >>>>>> I agree with Dave. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike Loewen mloewen(a)cpumagic.scol.pa.us >>>>>> Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/ >>>>>> >>> >

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Repair Workshop * Watch Party Info 8/1 & 8/2, 2020
by Jeffrey Brace 31 Jul '20

31 Jul '20

Tables are first come, first served at this point. So there is no guarantee of availability Please e-mail if you are not sure if there are any spaces available. We are also doing a watch party of VCF West's virtual show starting at 12PM August 1 until 9PM. The workshop is $10 *per* person, *per* day. This is InfoAge's rule and not our decision. So that means for two days it is $20. Sign up to guarantee a table. DATE: August 1 & 2, 2020 LOCATION (two locations): InfoAge: 2201 Marconi Road, Wall Township, NJ 1) Building 9059 (CDL Hackerspace - Formerly IXR) AND 2) Building 9032-A (Old workshop area in main building) TIME: Saturday START time == 10 A.M. END time == 11PM. Sunday START time == 10 A.M. and END == 5 P.M. SIGNUP: < https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xC4oVkxKnR8v_XyUWpB2H_OuZEW9FVUj4Cb… > Workshop area is limited to 10 people per building and facemasks are required. Hand sanitizer is available. COST: - $10 per person, PER day. This is required by InfoAge for us to pay for renting the space. - $25 for those wanting to stay overnight (Money goes to InfoAge). Please pay ME (Jeff Brace) upon arrival. Cash or PayPal is acceptable as payment. Ask ahead of time if you need to use a credit card. OVERNIGHT: Bring your own pillow, blankets, soap etc. We provide a bed frame and an uncovered mattress. There are showers and a kitchen for your use. - You can pay via PayPal to paypal(a)vcfed.org. or to me via cash or credit card in person. EQUIPMENT: - VCF will provide a table and you can use any available electrical outlet. - Bring your own tools, power strips, power cords, and supplies etc. - If you need particular tools that you don't know or particular parts, please post to the list for those going. They may have what you need. Let them know ahead of time. - Please bring an extra power strip to lend to someone that forgot. DRINKS: You should bring your own. I would recommend bringing a cooler of some type. FOOD: We plan on ordering pizza for lunch Saturday, going out to Brick House Tavern & Tap for dinner. Sunday we will either order bagels (from Delicious Bagels) or go to an outdoor diner. GATE: Please close the gate behind you at all times. We want to discourage random strangers from wandering the campus. We have had this happen numerous times. PARKING: Park in the main parking lot, unless you are unloading. Don't park on the lawn. QUESTIONS? Contact Jeff: 732-759-1783 jeffrey(a)vcfed.org Have fun everyone! -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member, VCF East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] 8080 programmer trainer
by Jonathan Gevaryahu 30 Jul '20

30 Jul '20

This honestly reminds me: who runs the list at the moment, and would it make sense, with the modern day and age, to disable the automatic stripping of attachments? Even if only .jpg and .png files are allowed, and only under a certain size, that would be a massive improvement. -- Jonathan Gevaryahu jgevaryahu(a)gmail.com jgevaryahu(a)hotmail.com

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] 8080 programmer trainer
by Sentrytv 30 Jul '20

30 Jul '20

Absolutely. I was Knee-deep in raccoon S—t so I took a couple of pictures. But now that I cleaned it up I can take some better pictures and look it up on the Internet if necessary. I found a few trainers including 2 HeathKits. And I’ll bring them all to the workshop probably on the 16th. I also have the Kaypro II, that once I clean it up and check it out a little bit, I’ll bring it to also. Mike R. Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > On Jul 30, 2020, at 3:16 PM, Doug Crawford <memphis(a)ptd.net> wrote: > > Yessir, if you can identify it we can look it up. It must have some identifying text on it. > >> On 7/30/2020 2:47 PM, Sentrytv wrote: >> Guys and gals >> We are off subject !! >> I sent an email asking about an 8080 trainer >> The subject was not about attachments. >> So please let’s keep to MY subject, or start a new one. >> Mike R. >> Please don’t take this personally. >> >> Sent from: >> My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. >> >>>> On Jul 30, 2020, at 1:16 PM, ☼ wil lindsay ☼ via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm sure this has been discussed many times before I joined, but is there >>>> anything wrong with linking from an anonymous image hostlike imgr? This is >>>> done on several platforms to keep bandwidth down and make image-viewing an >>>> option. >>>> As an example: https://imgur.com/gallery/EEzixyX >>>> allows 1 or multiple images, and was painless to setup and share. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 1:08 PM Mike Loewen via vcf-midatlantic < >>>> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7/30/20 11:52 AM, Jonathan Gevaryahu via vcf-midatlantic wrote: >>>>>> This honestly reminds me: who runs the list at the moment, and would it >>>>>> make sense, with the modern day and age, to disable the automatic >>>>>> stripping of attachments? Even if only .jpg and .png files are allowed, >>>>>> and only under a certain size, that would be a massive improvement. >>>>> That's an opinion that is not universally held. >>>>> >>>>> -Dave >>>> I agree with Dave. >>>> >>>> >>>> Mike Loewen mloewen(a)cpumagic.scol.pa.us >>>> Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/ >>>> >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] 8080 programmer trainer
by Bill Degnan 30 Jul '20

30 Jul '20

what is the brand/make/model? b On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 11:31 AM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Hey Jeff I’m sending this to you because I don’t have a account where I > can post pictures but maybe you can pass along I have a trainer that’s an > 8080 trainer and programmer maybe you and maybe somebody else me know what > it is and if it’s worth anything. > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Jul 30, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Jeff Salzman via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > It's also not pronounced like the name of a fictional computer > > programmer/technician at Reynholm Industries. > > > >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020, 10:32 AM Chris Fala via vcf-midatlantic < > >> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >> > >> I could barely get through the video. I seriously doubt the guy ever > worked > >> there because he doesn't know how to pronounce the name of the company. > It > >> isn't "moss" like the stuff that grows around trees, it is M - O - S > with > >> each letter spoken. Everyone I ever heard say it who actually worked > there > >> in the 1980s says it correctly (Bil Herd, Jack Tramiel, my sister, > etc.). > >> Let's please get it right for the sake of correctly documenting history. > >> Thank you. > >> > >> Rant over. > >> >

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8080 trainer programmer
by Sentrytv 30 Jul '20

30 Jul '20

Hey Jeff I’m sending this to you because I don’t have a account where I can post pictures but maybe you can pass along I have a trainer that’s an 8080 trainer and programmer maybe you and maybe somebody else me know what it is and if it’s worth anything. Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > On Jul 30, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Jeff Salzman via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > It's also not pronounced like the name of a fictional computer > programmer/technician at Reynholm Industries. > >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020, 10:32 AM Chris Fala via vcf-midatlantic < >> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: >> I could barely get through the video. I seriously doubt the guy ever worked >> there because he doesn't know how to pronounce the name of the company. It >> isn't "moss" like the stuff that grows around trees, it is M - O - S with >> each letter spoken. Everyone I ever heard say it who actually worked there >> in the 1980s says it correctly (Bil Herd, Jack Tramiel, my sister, etc.). >> Let's please get it right for the sake of correctly documenting history. >> Thank you. >> Rant over.

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