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Blantant Attack on Kennett Classic!
by Bill Degnan 13 Mar '20

13 Mar '20

To schedule vcf east less than a week before our event is a blantant and ignorant obnoxious affront to us! We consulted with vcfed so as not to infringe with the events and plans of the federation and this is what we get in return. How unprofessional. I ask everyone to stand behind us to protest this decision. Please be human and decent, we did everything to space our event. We offered to volunteer at vcfed! If you continue to pursue this, the working relationship between our two groups will be permanently damaged. Bill and Karen.

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VCF East - New Dates Announced!
by Tony Bogan 13 Mar '20

13 Mar '20

VCF East 2020 Update What a difference 24 hours makes! Since last night's announcement, we have now seen various state governments recommend cancelling all large gatherings in light of the "continued outbreak and to aggressively mitigate the spread of the virus." in the words of the Governor of NJ. As such, VCF East 2020 will be POSTPONED (not cancelled) until October 10th through 12th, 2020. This is Saturday through Monday, Columbus Day. Over the past week we have been actively working on backup plans for VCF East in the event it had to be postponed, with several different contingencies planned based on different circumstances that might arise. While it is unfortunate that such a circumstance has occurred, the VCF Steering Committee is pleased to inform everyone that we have secured the dates mentioned above, along with the needed space at the Infoage Science and History Museums. Additionally, we have been reaching out to our Keynote Speakers and class proctors to lock in their availability. We have confirmed that Bill Mensch, Michael Tomczyk, Bil Herd and David Murray have all confirmed their availability as of today. We will update the website, class schedules, etc. over the coming week to reflect the changes in date as well as filling in who can and cannot attend based on the new days of the event. While prep for VCF East has continued in earnest over the past few weeks, a potential change of dates has always been on the list of items to deal with. It is unfortunate that the event needed to be rescheduled, but with the cooperation of our members, keynote speakers, exhibitors and attendees, along with the great coordination we've had with Infoage, we are confident we can help keep people safe and healthy and have a fantastic event, just a few months later than originally anticipated. Please stay tuned for more updates as the days and weeks go by, and please, stay safe and healthy! VCF Steering Committee

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF East 2020 Update
by Bob Flanders 12 Mar '20

12 Mar '20

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d… On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:48 PM Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > VCF East 2020 Update > > In light of everything that is happening in the US and elsewhere with the > current Flu season and Coronavirus, the VCF Mid-Atlantic Steering Committee > wanted to update everyone on the current status of VCF East 2020. > > As it stands, VCF East 2020 is still scheduled to take place as planned on > April 24th, 25th and 26th. > > The Steering Committee is monitoring the situation daily and meets every > week for VCF East prep, which includes reassessing our situation for the > event as a whole on a weekly basis at minimum, more frequently if needed. > > At the Infoage Operations meeting on Wednesday, March 11th, Infoage > informed us that they have no plans to close or alter their operating > schedule at this time. Like us, they plan on watching the situation closely > and will update their plans if and when it is called for. Meanwhile, they > look forward to hosting VCF East once again. > > We understand that attendance will suffer as a result of the current > health situation as some people will choose not to travel or attend a > public event at this point in time. Prudence dictates that everyone, > especially people in the higher risk groups and those with certain health > issues, must do what's best for themselves, and we encourage people to do > just that! Meanwhile, we continue to plan on the event taking place on > schedule. > > In the event circumstances require us to reschedule the event, we will > notify all exhibitors, vendors, class proctors and advance ticket holders > directly, as well as announcing on our website and all social media. > > The VCF Steering Committee plans on hosting a fantastic show in April, but > plans sometimes change, and we will change ours if circumstances dictate a > change is needed, and make sure you are the first to know. > > VCF Steering Committee

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF East 2020 Update
by Neil Cherry 12 Mar '20

12 Mar '20

On 3/12/20 1:31 PM, Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > Has anyone seen the movie "Contagion" ? > > May seem a little far-fetched but not too far from the truth. ... so they're gonna drop a bomb on us? Great, now we're moving into (out?) to a Billy Joel song ... never could understand why they blew the Bronx away ... ;-) -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry(a)linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF East 2020 Update
by Alexander Pierson 12 Mar '20

12 Mar '20

I'm going to have to concur. My love for this event is on record, and I've joked with some of you that it would take something significant to stop me from attending VCF East. With that in mind, I think it is wise to cancel and avoid undue risk to people's health. I don't see much of a point for an event that champions hands-on exhibits in the middle of a pandemic. There is always next year. -Alexander 'Z' Pierson On Thursday, March 12, 2020, 03:54:36 PM EDT, Peter Fletcher via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: I’d say that is it then for me. If the State of NJ doesn’t want events of size being held we ought listen to that. I know this is going to be inconvenient, and frankly I have no idea if I’ll get the money I’ve paid for my hotel stay refunded or not, but I really don’t want to feel responsible for spreading a disease because people are touching my old keyboards and joysticks. The VCF demographic is solidly middle age and older, exactly the people this is affecting most. Not that I get a vote, but if I do have one, I vote to cancel and find a date later in the year. -Pete > On Mar 12, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Jason Perkins via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Looks like NJ is recommending all gatherings of >250 be cancelled. > > https://nj.gov/governor/news/news/562020/approved/20200312a.shtml > > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:12 PM Martin Flynn via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >> Google “project cautery” >> >>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic < >> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On 3/12/20 1:31 PM, Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic wrote: >>>> Has anyone seen the movie "Contagion" ? >>>> >>>> May seem a little far-fetched but not too far from the truth. >>> >>> ... so they're gonna drop a bomb on us? >>> >>> Great, now we're moving into (out?) to a Billy Joel song ... never could >> understand >>> why they blew the Bronx away ... ;-) >>> >>> -- >>> Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry(a)linuxha.com >>> http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site >>> http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog >>> Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies >>> >> >> > > -- > Jason Perkins > 313 355 0085

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF East 2020 Update
by Jonathan Gevaryahu 12 Mar '20

12 Mar '20

I'm in complete agreement. What I'm hearing in the news by epidemiologists implies this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. Based on some estimates I've seen *I think* it may peak sometime in May, June or even later. I'm personally fine having VCFE in the fall sometime, or even possibly deferring it to next year (not the first time this has happened). On 3/12/2020 3:54 PM, Peter Fletcher via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > > I’d say that is it then for me. If the State of NJ doesn’t want events of size being held we ought listen to that. > > I know this is going to be inconvenient, and frankly I have no idea if I’ll get the money I’ve paid for my hotel stay refunded or not, but I really don’t want to feel responsible for spreading a disease because people are touching my old keyboards and joysticks. > > The VCF demographic is solidly middle age and older, exactly the people this is affecting most. > > Not that I get a vote, but if I do have one, I vote to cancel and find a date later in the year. > > -Pete > > > >> On Mar 12, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Jason Perkins via vcf-midatlantic<vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: >> >> Looks like NJ is recommending all gatherings of >250 be cancelled. >> >> https://nj.gov/governor/news/news/562020/approved/20200312a.shtml >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:12 PM Martin Flynn via vcf-midatlantic < >> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: >> >>> Google “project cautery” >>> >>>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Neil Cherry via vcf-midatlantic < >>> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: >>>>> On 3/12/20 1:31 PM, Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic wrote: >>>>> Has anyone seen the movie "Contagion" ? >>>>> >>>>> May seem a little far-fetched but not too far from the truth. >>>> ... so they're gonna drop a bomb on us? >>>> >>>> Great, now we're moving into (out?) to a Billy Joel song ... never could >>> understand >>>> why they blew the Bronx away ...;-) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Linux Home Automation Neil Cherryncherry(a)linuxha.com >>>> http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site >>>> http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog >>>> Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies >>>> >> -- >> Jason Perkins >> 313 355 0085 -- Jonathan Gevaryahu jgevaryahu(a)gmail.com jgevaryahu(a)hotmail.com

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF East 2020 Update
by Mike Loewen 12 Mar '20

12 Mar '20

On Thu Mar 12 00:22:27 EDT 2020, Kyle Own wrote: > Since the WHO has upgraded this to a pandemic, I am very surprised to see > VCF E as a possibility for late April. Current trends show that we may have > close to 1 million cases in the US by then. By continuing planning VCF E for > April, I believe the steering committee is doing a disservice to the > community, both among vintage computer enthusiasts and members of Wall > Township and surrounding areas. Why not postpone for a future date? > > I'd be very curious to see a show of hands who would currently plan to be in > attendance in April. > > Kyle I'm not one to panic, but given the current state of affairs I am considering withdrawing my exhibit from VCF East this. I realize that scheduling is tight for Infoage, but if at all possible I would also urge that the SC consider reschduling the event. Remember some years back when one member infected several of the exhibitors? Mike Loewen mloewen(a)cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF East 2020 Update
by Kyle Owen 12 Mar '20

12 Mar '20

Since the WHO has upgraded this to a pandemic, I am very surprised to see VCF E as a possibility for late April. Current trends show that we may have close to 1 million cases in the US by then. By continuing planning VCF E for April, I believe the steering committee is doing a disservice to the community, both among vintage computer enthusiasts and members of Wall Township and surrounding areas. Why not postpone for a future date? I'd be very curious to see a show of hands who would currently plan to be in attendance in April. Kyle

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Burroughs B205 tape drive on Ebay
by Mike Loewen 12 Mar '20

12 Mar '20

Stan Brewer's B205 tape drive is up for auction (again) on Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-BURROUGHS-B205-CORPORATION-ELECTRODATA-COM… Stan (RIP) told me that this was originally one of the drives from Claude Kagan's B205 system. It's in rough shape, and may not be complete. Mike Loewen mloewen(a)cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] VCF East 2020 Update
by David Riley 12 Mar '20

12 Mar '20

On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:48 PM, Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > From: Tony Bogan <thebogans(a)mac.com> > Subject: VCF East 2020 Update > Date: March 11, 2020 at 10:48:02 PM EDT > To: vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org > > > VCF East 2020 Update > > In light of everything that is happening in the US and elsewhere with the current Flu season and Coronavirus, the VCF Mid-Atlantic Steering Committee wanted to update everyone on the current status of VCF East 2020. > > As it stands, VCF East 2020 is still scheduled to take place as planned on April 24th, 25th and 26th. As things stand currently, I don't plan on traveling for any cons until at least June. Most epidemiological models have cases peaking around early May, give or take a few weeks, which means late April is likely to be pretty bad in terms of the effect on our national health system and follow-on effects in everyday life, not to mention the risk of infection if you're not already sick. This is not me trying to lecture y'all, because you can do what you want. But I would definitely suggest carefully considering the additional financial and logistical burden each additional week adds if you cancel later, because people make commitments, lock down schedules, and pay for travel arrangements as things get closer. In the infosec world, a LOT of conferences are getting canceled and moved right now, and people are feeling the pain (both people who had already committed to presenting and arranged time off work, gotten visas, booked non-refundable tickets, etc). It sucks. But most conferences have made that decision last week and this week. If the show does go on, I wish everyone the best of luck and I'll look forward to the videos. But I'll still be hoping for a raincheck. - Dave

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