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Need to Borrow IBM VGA CRTs for VCF East (8512, 8513, or 8514)
by J. Alexander Jacocks 21 Feb '19

21 Feb '19

All, Does anyone have 2 IBM PS/2 VGA CRTs (8512, 8513, or 8514) that I could borrow to use with my exhibit for VCF East? I could also use 1 Model M, as I only have two, and 3 IBM two-button early PS/2 mice (like this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IBM_PS2_hiiri.jpg) Not looking to buy, as I’m only keeping one machine, afterwards, so that my collection doesn’t grow beyond bounds. Thanks! - Alex

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Fwd: PC Collection
by Evan Koblentz 20 Feb '19

20 Feb '19

Mid-Atlantic folks: have at this! (We're declining for the VCFed collection.) CC:ing Alan H. so he can bring this to AHCS attention too. Maybe it's the kind of collection that people can do as a group haul. THE OWNER IS NOT ON THIS LIST, so don't be the person who replies on-list and makes me roll my eyes. :) On 2/19/19 6:26 PM, Erik Klein wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *Gene D. Robinson* <robinsgd(a)wctel.net <mailto:robinsgd@wctel.net>> > Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 10:45 AM > Subject: PC Collection > To: <webmaster(a)vintage-computer.com > <mailto:webmaster@vintage-computer.com>> > > > Erik, > > The purpose of this letter is to see if you might have any interest in > acquiring my collection of approximately 100 old PC computer systems. > There are also approximately 20 early laptops going back to the early > 1980s > > I am nearly 76 years old and can no longer adequately curate my > collection gathered over the past 25 years. Although some are quite > valuable, such as a very low serial number original IBM PC and the > Columbia PC (the first PC clone) and an early Eagle PC, I would like > to keep the collection together rather than sell them individually on > eBay. I hope you might be interest in acquiring the collection, or if > not, you might offer advice as to how I should proceed. > > The heart of my collection is perhaps unique and is based on a > realization that hit me when in the late 90s while pricing out that > the original IBM PC would have cost about $3,500, adequately equipped > to be useful and productive in 1981-’82. I realized that was still > what a high end, well equipped PC would cost. As I investigated, I > soon saw that $3,000-$3,600 had remained constant down through the > years as the cost of a high-end PC. Thus, the idea for my collection > was born: > > A high-end PC each year, priced in mid-year, with software installed > appropriate to the year. > > Below is a list: > > *YEAR* > > > > *SYSTEM NAME* > > > > *PRICE $* > > > > *CPU & SPEED* > > ** > > > > ** > > > > ** > > > > ** > > *1981* > > > > *IBM PC Model 5150* > > > > 3,480** > > > > *80088-4.77 Mhz* > > *1982* > > > > *Columbia MPC* > > > > 3,195** > > > > *80088-4.77 Mhz* > > *1983* > > > > *Eagle PC-2* > > > > 3,613** > > > > *8088-4.77 Mhz* > > *1984* > > > > *XPC-XT* > > > > 3,515 > > > > *8088-4.77 Mhz* > > *1985* > > > > *Conquest PC Turbo* > > > > 2,900 > > > > *8088-8 mhz* > > *1986* > > > > *PC's Limited AT* > > > > 3,122 > > > > *80286-8 Mhz* > > *1987* > > > > *PC Limited 286-12* > > > > 3,499 > > > > *80286-12 Mhz* > > *1988* > > > > *DMP 386* > > > > 2,907 > > > > *80386-20 Mhz* > > *1989* > > > > *Home Smart 386* > > > > 3,117 > > > > *80386-25 Mhz* > > *1990* > > > > *Comtrade* > > > > 3,370 > > > > *80386-33 Mhz* > > *1991* > > > > *Computer World 486-33* > > > > 3,520 > > > > *80486-33 Mhz* > > *1992* > > > > *Strobe MPC* > > > > 3,416 > > > > *80486-50 Mhz* > > *1993* > > > > *Gateway 2000 4DX2-66V* > > > > 3,345 > > > > *80486-66 Mhz* > > *1994* > > > > *Gateway 2000* > > > > 3,446 > > > > *Pentium-90 Mhz* > > *1995* > > > > *MidWest Micro P5-133 PCI* > > > > 3,494 > > > > *Pent-133 Mhz* > > *1996* > > > > *Dell Dimension XPS P200S * > > > > 3,287 > > > > *Pent-200 Mhz* > > *1997* > > > > *Unicent Titana II266XLA* > > > > 3,263 > > > > *Pent II-266 Mhz* > > *1998* > > > > *Quantex QP6/400 SM-4x* > > > > 2,899 > > > > *Pent II-400 Mhz* > > *1999* > > > > *Compaq Presario 5700t * > > > > 2,828 > > > > *Pent III-550 Mhz* > > *2000* > > > > *Tiger TM71A* > > > > 3,149 > > > > *Athlon 1 Ghz* > > *2001* > > > > *Gateway 1800* > > > > 3,160 > > > > *Pent IV 1.8 Ghz* > > *2002* > > > > *ABS Digital 8* > > > > 3,100 > > > > *Pent IV 2.53 Ghz* > > *2003* > > > > *Gateway 710XL* > > > > 3,090 > > > > *Pent IV 3.2 Ghz* > > *2004* > > > > *Cyberpower * > > > > 3,411 > > > > *Pent IV 3.6 Ghz* > > *2005* > > > > *Cyberpower* > > > > 3,389 > > > > *Athlon 64 FX 57* > > *2006* > > > > ** > > > > > > ** > > *2007* > > > > ** > > > > > > ** > > *2008* > > > > ** > > > > > > ** > > The only non-PCs in the collection are the three original home > computers that came on the market in 1977 within a few months of each > other: Apple II, Commodore PET 8k, and Tandy TRS-80. There is also an > original Mac from the fifth week of production in February 1984 that > comes with all the original disks, manuals and accessories. At last > check these all worked properly including the cassette tape drives on > the Tandy and PET. There is also a large selection of original > software cassettes for the PET, extremely rare. > > I also have a hundred feet of shelf space filled with old software > going back to VisCalc, Lotus 123, and DOS 1.1 and numerous games going > back to the early 80s. The first of these computers to have a hard > disk drive (Zenith Z-100 in 1984) plus each subsequent computer has > the correct software installed on it for its year including Windows > 1.0. Some of the computers are the actual brands shown in the table, > and some are generic versions patterned after brand name machines. > > In addition, I got interested in how a high-end machine would compare > to a low-priced PC ($400-$500 including monitor) and started > accumulating those machines (or building generic versions). I found > that generally these low-cost machines had the performance of the > hig-end PCs from about three years earlier. > > I have some other machines of particular interest such as the a new, > never removed from the box, IBM PCAT, an IBM PCXT with the original 10 > MB hard drive that boots and runs programs just fine. There’a a Tandy > 2000 (80186 cpu and its own unique operating system), and the first > 386 PC (Compaq Deskpro). There’s also a complete collection of /PC > Magazines/ from Vol 1-No.1 up to fairly recent plus many old /Byte/ > magazines and /PC World/. > > I’m hoping you might have some interest in this collection or, if not, > that you can advise me what to do. Perhaps you might know of an > auction company that could sell the collection. I can send images if > you want to have a better idea of the scope. > > Gene D. Robinson > > Abbeville, SC > -- Evan Koblentz, executive director Vintage Computer Federation www.vcfed.org evan(a)vcfed.org (646) 546-9999 VCF is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.

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Warehouse work tomorrow or Friday?
by Evan Koblentz 20 Feb '19

20 Feb '19

Can I get one person to help me all day in the warehouse, either tomorrow or Friday? There are 206 people on this list ... let's hear from somebody new for a change. :)

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InfoAge is closed today
by Evan Koblentz 20 Feb '19

20 Feb '19

InfoAge is closed today due to the weather. Evan Koblentz Executive Director, Vintage Computer Federation evan(a)vcfed.org / (646) 546-9999 www.vcfed.org @vcfederation

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Atari exhibit(s) at VCF East
by Peter Cetinski 20 Feb '19

20 Feb '19

> On Feb 20, 2019, at 10:37 AM, Peter Fletcher via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Just wanted to let people know that the Atari Exhibit is a group effort. Dean Notarnicola, Bill Lange, Anthony Becker, Bill Winters and I will all be participating. We will be covering the 400/800 through to the Falcon030. We will also have a tribute to Jay Miner as he was instrumental in the creation of the 2600,400/800, as well as the Amiga 1000. > Nice! A Jay Miner tribute is classy.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Atari exhibit(s) at VCF East
by Evan Koblentz 20 Feb '19

20 Feb '19

>> Just wanted to let people know that the Atari Exhibit is a group effort. Dean Notarnicola, Bill Lange, Anthony Becker, Bill Winters and I will all be participating. My fault for not fully reading your exhibit registration. Dean told me last night. I need to update the webpage. Was going to reply to my own comment here but you beat me to it. On Wed, Feb 20, 2019, 10:38 AM Peter Fletcher via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Just wanted to let people know that the Atari Exhibit is a group effort. > Dean Notarnicola, Bill Lange, Anthony Becker, Bill Winters and I will all > be participating. We will be covering the 400/800 through to the > Falcon030. We will also have a tribute to Jay Miner as he was instrumental > in the creation of the 2600,400/800, as well as the Amiga 1000. > >

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Atari exhibit(s) at VCF East
by Peter Fletcher 20 Feb '19

20 Feb '19

Just wanted to let people know that the Atari Exhibit is a group effort. Dean Notarnicola, Bill Lange, Anthony Becker, Bill Winters and I will all be participating. We will be covering the 400/800 through to the Falcon030. We will also have a tribute to Jay Miner as he was instrumental in the creation of the 2600,400/800, as well as the Amiga 1000.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] [OT] Early Kodak Photographic Copying Device?
by Jeffrey Jonas 20 Feb '19

20 Feb '19

Before photocopiers & laser printers were ubiquitious, there were many curious methods of duplication. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_duplicating_processes 1) if you have a paper copy that's a B&W negative, it is probably a Photostat. I found several photostats in my dad's papers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photostat_machine Description Both Rectigraph and Photostat machines consisted of a large camera ... After a 10-second exposure, the paper was directed to developing and fixing baths, then either air- or machine-dried. Since the print was directly exposed, without the use of an intermediate film, the result was a negative print. 2) I once salvaged a Thermofax machine. It was a box of BRIGHT lamps and a heated roller. No chemicals required. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermofax 3) I once had a little darkroom kit with a contact printer which was a tin box with a light bulb inside, a glass top with hinged top. The paper was developed by inserting it into a plastic gadget where a crank turned rollers (via gears) dunking the paper into 3 consecutive chemical trays. 4) The way these relate to computers & electronics: several of these processes were used for chart recorders and "oscillographs" (oscilloscope where a light beam was bounced by moving mirrors onto a screen, or film). High resolution charter recorders avoided pen lag & overshoot by using a galvanometer and light beam onto light sensitive paper. I think HP used IR onto heat-sensitive paper similar to today's receipt paper. -- jeff jonas

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Someone needs an empty PDP-11 rack
by Evan Koblentz 20 Feb '19

20 Feb '19

Someone here in central NJ (who gave us an interesting homemade portable VAXstation) is looking for an empty PDP-11 rack. If anybody has one for sale then please contact him directly at joe.dempster(a)gmail.com.

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Atari exhibit(s) at VCF East
by Evan Koblentz 19 Feb '19

19 Feb '19

Since there will be a huge UNIX exhibit anniversary exhibit, there should also be a huge Atari computer anniversary exhibit. Pete opened the door by registering his Atari exhibit just now: http://vcfed.org/wp/festivals/vintage-computer-festival-east/vcf-east-exhib… I encourage all Atari exhibitors to work with Pete and to perhaps make your own off-list discussion method for coordination. It would be fun if, in one of the exhibit rooms, we have a whole long row of Atari facing a whole long row of UNIX systems.

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