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Testing new address
by Tony Bogan 07 Nov '15

07 Nov '15

Seeing if this works any better than the yahoo address. Tony Sent from my iPhone

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MINI WORKSHOP - Pottstown PA - Saturday November 14th
by tom.hornberger＠verizon.net 07 Nov '15

07 Nov '15

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] our new museum -- micro exhibit -- pick 28!
by Evan Koblentz 07 Nov '15

07 Nov '15

Aaarrrgghhh -- Chris' message arrived here as an .eml attachment. WTF is causing that and how do we fix it!!?? Anyway, Chris said this: --------------------- Whats missing: Atari 400/800.. Why? I can argue that this computer is the one that pushed home users from game machines to computers. Atari designed these machines for non-hobbyist home users by putting in cartridge ports and having composite output. They sold these through SEARS. I think these are engineering marvels for the time and are very under appreciated. I know that the PET/Apple II came out earlier, but they were not targeted to home users. Yes some people purchased them for the home. They were not designed that way. The Apple II was a $1200 just for the machine and over $2000 complete. I would argue that is not targeting the Home Computer Market. The Ti99/4 came out before the Atari but at $1,150 it was not targeted at the home market.. The TI99/4a in 1981 was at $525. VIC-20 First million sold, ushered in a lot of adoption Next Workstation Ahead of it's time, HTTPd developed, Web Developed @ CERN So I think these can be removed KIM-1, Should be part of a CPU collection, which I think the museum should have. IBM PC Jr., I don't see the significance HP-85B, I don't see the significance Our homebrewed "Dudley" PDP-8 clone. N Apple Mac Portable, there were earlier laptops SWTPC 6800 --------------------- My comments: >> Atari 400/800 ... They sold these through SEARS. Good point. >> I know that the PET/Apple II came out earlier, but they were not targeted to home users. Yes some people purchased them for the home. They were not designed that way. So? Exhibit isn't just about home computers. Nothing will convince us to remove the PET and Apple II. :) >> The Apple II was a $1200 just for the machine and over $2000 complete. I would argue that is not targeting the Home Computer Market. Schools, my friend!!! Apple II dominated. >> Next Workstation Ahead of it's time We don't have one. >> So I think these can be removed KIM-1, Should be part of a CPU collection, which I think the museum should have. Eventually. There won't be room for that exhibit in stage one. >> IBM PC Jr., I don't see the significance Big Blue's entry into home computing. >> HP-85B, I don't see the significance HP was a big player in engineering micros, while the home users were building Altairs and playing with BASIC .... I think we should teach this. Too many history books teach people that homebrew and hobby systems were the ONLY small computers back then. Our homebrewed "Dudley" PDP-8 clone. N As previously explained -- this is our best example, albeit technically a mini, of a desktop-sized homemade system. Got to show at least one such thing. Apple Mac Portable, there were earlier laptops Of course, I wrote a book about that. :) Maybe show something that was more of a commodity, such as (any) run-of-the-mill mid/late-1980s laptop.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] eml attachments
by Evan Koblentz 07 Nov '15

07 Nov '15

> Simple fix for me. Add me to the list with the address: thebogans(a)mac.com Done. You'll get a confirmation email.

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Halloween, still!
by Evan Koblentz 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

InfoAge is keeping the Halloween scarefest open tonight and tomorrow night. Go visit!

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OT - Dell Monitor on Newegg Shell Shocker Deal
by Chris Fala 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

Seems like a great price for a 24" monitor. http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260338

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Place your hoodie orders
by VAXman＠tmesis.org 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic writes: >Sending this message to the old list in addition to new list, so nobody >claims "I didn't get it" later.... > >We are ready to take orders for the Federation hoodies. They'll be black >with front pockets and (obviously) hoods. Design will be our new logo on >the front. Only change is the keys won't have the gray shadow, because >that would be a third color and too expensive. Logo?

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] our new museum -- micro exhibit -- pick 28! (Evan Koblentz)
by Bob Shuster 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

> 1. Our homebrewed "Dudley" PDP-8 clone > 2. Apple 1 (Mimeo) > 3. Apple 2 > 4. Apple Lisa (2/10) > 5. Apple Mac 128K > 6. Apple Mac Portable > 7. AT&T (but which one? 6300, 7300, or 3B2?) > 8. Commodore PET 2001 > 9. Commodore 64 > 10. Commodore Amiga (500?) > 11. Compaq Portable > 12. HP-85B > 13. IBM 5100 > 14. IBM 5150 > 15. IBM PC Jr. > 16. IBM (or generic) Windows 3.1 > 17. IMSAI 8080 > 18. Mark-8 > 19. MITS Altair 8800 > 20. MOS Tech KIM-1 > 21. Osborne 1 > 22. Processor Tech SOL-20 > 23. Scelbi-8H (repro) > 24. Sinclair ZX-80 > 25. SWTPC 6800 > 26. TRS-80 Model 1 > 27. TRS-80 Model 100 > 28. Xerox 860 > > And ..... go! I believe an 8-bit Atari system needs to be part of any exhibit concerning early microcomputers, either an Atari 400 or Atari 800. The first one came out in 1979 and was a logical extension to the successful Atari 2600 gaming console and was a big part of the “home computer as gaming console” movement. Star Raiders was the best game and a big selling point! If nothing else, Atari remained an important computer manufacturer, pushing the leading edge (for example first computer to include a MIDI interface with the ST line) and should be represented. Also noticeably missing is the TI 99/4 or 4a. Among the first (if not *the* first) 16-bit home computers, and the TI 99/4a held about 35% of the home computer market at its peak before Jack Tramiel and Commodore buried them. I definitely believe Atari and Texas Instruments should be represented as important companies in early home computing. I would also make a half-hearted appeal for a Mattel Aquarius computer, the least-successful home computer ever. This came out in 1983 to compete with the VIC-20 and TI 99/4a, and was cancelled four months later. About 8,000 were sold. - Bob Shuster

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Place your hoodie orders
by Evan Koblentz 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

Sending this message to the old list in addition to new list, so nobody claims "I didn't get it" later.... We are ready to take orders for the Federation hoodies. They'll be black with front pockets and (obviously) hoods. Design will be our new logo on the front. Only change is the keys won't have the gray shadow, because that would be a third color and too expensive. Speaking of prices: Small through XL = $20, 2XL = $25, 3XL = $30. All are men's sizes. Kids/womens/or anything bigger than 3XL not available at this time. ***** VERY IMPORTANT: ***** - All orders MUST be placed by next Friday (Nov. 13) at 5PM ET. At that point I'll email our order to the shirt company. Procrastinators will have to wait for another batch some other time. - You must prepay. Hoodies are too expensive for us to lay out the money and chase you down for it later. Acceptable methods of payment are through PayPal (hoodies(a)vintagecomputerfederation.org) or send a check to Vintage Computer Federation. Our address is P.O. Box 417, Eatontown, NJ, 07724. - Put the sizes and quantities you want into the PayPal comments box or the check memo field. - DO NOT say "I'll take size XYZ" in email (to me, the list, or wherever) and expect us to fill that order. Follow instructions above.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] DOS Floppy Disks
by tom.hornberger＠verizon.net 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

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