November 2015 - vcf-midatlantic

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by Herb Johnson 03 Nov '15

03 Nov '15

test CI, ignore -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net

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List test
by Herb Johnson 03 Nov '15

03 Nov '15

Just to describe (again) how I post and read, if it's informative. For some with send or receive issues, this may be a "plan B". My reasons for these methods don't matter. I write an email with my email client on my computer, with the email address of the list vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org as "to:", and the subject line in this case cut-and-pasted from the maillist Web page archive of messages (as this one was). That seems to work, to insert my message in the correct "thread" (I'll find out again after sending) but possibly out of "reply tree" order. I send it of course, from the email account and name I registered on the list. Sending from another email account, of course, would be rejected as "you aren't registered here". My emails are text-only, but there are some embedded ASCII formatting (my trailer below appears as grey not black text when I read it). I read the list from the list's Web address for the archive, http://lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org/pipermail/vcf-midatlantic/ ..which may be a little hard to find. And it may require a "cookie" to validate access to that Web page (or may not). I have access to messages by date, topic, author and to individual message. I don't guarantee what I've described is correct or accurate. If not, others can offer corrections, if the methods are worth documenting. I was going to describe how some of the emails I recieved before disabling email distribution, and describe how some of them look on the Web interface. The simplest thing I can say, is that some messages seem to have HTML which does not readily display content; the content is visible when looking in "source mode", ignoring all HTML tags and displaying them as embedded in the text. ASCII inspection of "ill formed" messages may be informative to the knowledgeable. My point is: this means of writing to the list, and to read the list, ought to be available to anyone with means to construct emails as I've described, and to browse the Web (presuming the archive is visible to non-subscribers). And so it's a "plan B" when one's primary access has issues. HErb -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] WTD: 720k floppy drive
by Richard Cini 03 Nov '15

03 Nov '15

This message came through as a MIME attachment. Others I've received as plain text. Rich Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 3, 2015, at 11:25 AM, Bob Aviles via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: > > <mime-attachment>

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Commodore PET on eBay in King of Prussia
by Chris Fala 03 Nov '15

03 Nov '15

My initial reaction is that this is worth at least $200. What do other people think? On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Tony Bogan <apb11368(a)yahoo.com> > To: "vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org" < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> > Cc: > Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 11:29:17 -0800 > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Commodore PET on eBay in King of Prussia > Was just going to ask, what are they going for? Ever since I saw the one > at VCF two years ago (the video thru the iPhone's was just friggin cool!) > I've been tempted to start branching out to Commodores. > Tony > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0> > > On Nov 2, 2015, 2:27:21 PM, william degnan via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > they're getting expensive > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Chris Fala via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: > >> I am really tempted on this one but will have to pass. >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/151819476036 >> >> > > > -- > Bill > > >

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OT: Test Post and IBM Z890
by Connor Krukosky 03 Nov '15

03 Nov '15

Well I did the ill-advised and got the Z890 :P Won the machine for $237, a fair price I'd say :) I may only be 115LBS and the rack alone may have weighted roughly 800LBS, but with the right tools and some friends and family to help out it wasn't too hard to get moved. The most difficult part was the excavation we had to do to get it to fit under the deck! It was a REALLY tight fit as you will see in the photos. It took two trips up to Rutgers to get it all, one with the truck alone to remove most of the innards and another with the trailer as-well to grab the rack. Its already in the basement and most of the way back together, just running the wiring internally for it then I need to wire up a 240v 30a outlet once we get the new breaker box in since there is no more room in the current box. Photos of the whole adventure: http://imgur.com/a/5uWit Very special thanks to Jeff Jonas who was there both days to help out. Along with thanks to my two friends from college that helped and of-course my father who didn't kill me but helped me get into the basement :) -Connor K

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WTD: 720k floppy drive
by Richard Cini 03 Nov '15

03 Nov '15

> All — > > For archiving HP system disks (LIF format) I’m looking for a real 720k 3.5” floppy drive. I’m not having much success doing it with a 1.44MB floppy drive so I’d like to get a real one if I could. > > Does anyone have a spare they could part with? If so, please drop me a note off-list. Thanks! Rich Cini Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Update - blank msgs, etc.
by william degnan 03 Nov '15

03 Nov '15

Tony, Can you please bottom post, thanks b On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Tony Bogan <apb11368(a)yahoo.com> > To: "vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org" < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> > Cc: > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 07:36:52 -0800 > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Update - blank msgs, etc. > I've received every email sent to date. Some were blank, some showed the > content. None ever went to my spam folder. This message from Evan showed > perfectly as did Connor's reply. I intentionally left the quoted text below > just to show what showed! :-) > Tony > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0> > > On Nov 3, 2015, 10:32:27 AM, Connor Krukosky via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > On 11/3/2015 10:21 AM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > > > If so, then anyone whose mail clients can't handle HTML format will > > have to make changes on their ends (sorry).... > > Or we can find a better mailing list manager that actually works for > everyone instead of settling for something that only works for 'most' of > the users we have. > I've heard a suggestion or two from other members, maybe ask everyone > for what everyone suggests. > I personally have had no problems with the new mailing list but I > dislike it when I've heard that someone received my post in their spam > folder... > Defeats the point of a mailing list if only some of the people actually > receive the posts... > > -Connor K > > > > -- Bill

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Ps - Yahoo group still works :)
by Evan Koblentz 03 Nov '15

03 Nov '15

Let's remember that the Yahoo group still works while we continue fixing the new list.

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Update - blank msgs, etc.
by Evan Koblentz 03 Nov '15

03 Nov '15

Everyone, My sense is the blank message problem started when I enabled the option to strip HTML, etc. (even though my early test disproved it partially). As another test, I un-did the "strip HTML" option just now. Let's see if that makes the blank messages problem go away. If so, then anyone whose mail clients can't handle HTML format will have to make changes on their ends (sorry)....

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Update - blank msgs, etc.
by Bob Flanders 03 Nov '15

03 Nov '15

This message was intentionally left blank. On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Tony Bogan via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Tony Bogan <apb11368(a)yahoo.com> > To: "vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org" < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vintagecomputerfederation.org> > Cc: > Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 07:36:52 -0800 > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Update - blank msgs, etc. > I've received every email sent to date. Some were blank, some showed the > content. None ever went to my spam folder. This message from Evan showed > perfectly as did Connor's reply. I intentionally left the quoted text below > just to show what showed! :-) > Tony > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0> > > On Nov 3, 2015, 10:32:27 AM, Connor Krukosky via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > On 11/3/2015 10:21 AM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > > > If so, then anyone whose mail clients can't handle HTML format will > > have to make changes on their ends (sorry).... > > Or we can find a better mailing list manager that actually works for > everyone instead of settling for something that only works for 'most' of > the users we have. > I've heard a suggestion or two from other members, maybe ask everyone > for what everyone suggests. > I personally have had no problems with the new mailing list but I > dislike it when I've heard that someone received my post in their spam > folder... > Defeats the point of a mailing list if only some of the people actually > receive the posts... > > -Connor K > > > >

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