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VCF Museum/Warehouse projects for last week of December
by Jeffrey Brace 29 Dec '20

29 Dec '20

Bill Inderrieden and I will be working on various projects during the last week of December. I have some time off work, so I intend to get some projects that have been on my to-do list. If anyone has time from December 28 to January 3, and is interested in helping out with some museum and/or warehouse projects, let me know. Bill and I will be making a schedule for that time period on Monday when we meet at 1PM.. Projects on our list include: New backdrops for museum artifact carts Folding, counting t-shirts, polos, etc Coco 3 demo setup Video recording some artifacts Finish setting up the Xerox demo. Setting up Laser Jet 4P for museum use Organizing, documenting and archiving VCF East videos from magnetic tape General cleanup of the museum floor and space. Anything else that we find that needs attention. Etc. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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Selling Teletype Model 33
by Kelly Leavitt 29 Dec '20

29 Dec '20

I have a fairly complete Model 33 for sale. Looks exactly like the one in the wiki article. Asking $1,500 but willing to negotiate. Haven't powered it up in at least 5 years. Pics available on request. Pickup in Wantage, NJ or we can arrange delivery. Includes chad bucket and a bunch of paper. I don't think I have the reading stand. Here's the wiki link. Teletype Model 33 - Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletype_Model_33> [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/Teletype-IMG_7287…]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletype_Model_33> Teletype Model 33 - Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletype_Model_33> The Teletype Model 33 is an electromechanical teleprinter designed for light-duty office use. It is less rugged and cost less than earlier Teletype machines. Teletype Corporation introduced the Model 33 as a commercial product in 1963 after being originally designed for the United States Navy. There are three versions of the Model 33: Model 33 ASR, (Automatic Send and Receive), which has a ... en.wikipedia.org Replies off list unless it's a general question. Thanks, Kelly PS I'm going to be selling off a lot of things. I just have too much to work on. Mostly XT and 286 clone stuff. A few Mac all-in-ones.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] February Repair Workshop Date change
by Dean Notarnicola 28 Dec '20

28 Dec '20

Unless Green Bay makes the super bowl, I’ll be there. On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 3:09 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Keep > > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Dec 28, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > OK. Looks like everyone is OK with me keeping the date and not changing > it. > > > > Let me turn the question around. > > Who's OK with me *keeping* the date and not moving it? > > > > > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > > Virus-free. > > www.avast.com > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > >> On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 7:02 PM Jeff Salzman via vcf-midatlantic < > >> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >> > >> I'm good for either weekend. > >> > >> On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 6:58 PM Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic < > >> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >> > >>> I'm thinking that I need to reschedule the February Repair workshop. I > >>> didn't realize that February 7 is Superbowl Sunday. > >>> > >>> Anyone have any problems with February 13 & 14? > >>> > >>> -- > >>> ========================================= > >>> Jeff Brace > >>> Vice President & Board Member > >>> Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner > >>> Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity > >>> http://www.vcfed.org/ > >>> jeffrey(a)vcfed.org > >>> cell: 732-759-1783 > >>> > >> > > > > > > -- > > ========================================= > > Jeff Brace > > Vice President & Board Member > > Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner > > Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity > > http://www.vcfed.org/ > > jeffrey(a)vcfed.org > > cell: 732-759-1783 > >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] What projects are you working on?
by Richard Cini 28 Dec '20

28 Dec '20

For my workbench I bought from Grainger a metal instrument shelf that would go with an assembly bench, with outlets and I sat it on top of my workbench. Works well, but a little pricy as I recall (maybe $150). Rich http://www.classiccmp.org/cini Long Island S100 User’s Group Get Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS ________________________________ From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces(a)lists.vcfed.org> on behalf of Alexander Pierson via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 4:15:16 PM To: Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Alexander Pierson <ajpierson1(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] What projects are you working on?

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OT: Looking for 35MM movies, projection equipment, etc
by Ethan O'Toole 28 Dec '20

28 Dec '20

Odd one, but I got a wild hair to try to bring home a 35mm movie projector if I can find one (Century, Simplex, Christie, Norelco, etc.) The 35MM movies can be hard to find. Anyone know any leads? I see a bunch of ebay with high asking prices and 0 sales ever. Then at commercial auctions the projectors go for $60ish and the platter systems for $40ish. I am aware of the explosion risk, high power usage, and insaity of my endevor. Any leads on projectors, sound hardware or 35MM movies?

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Wonder Woman 1984 and vintage computers
by Jeffrey Brace 28 Dec '20

28 Dec '20

I saw the new Wonder Woman 1984 movie on HBO Max and there were some retro computers in the movie. I saw IBM PC, Commodore PET (chiclet) and possible a Commodore B500. Did anyone else see others in the movie? -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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New goodies?
by Jeffrey Brace 28 Dec '20

28 Dec '20

What new goodies has everyone gotten for themselves or as gifts from someone during this holiday season? I got: C64 Maxi Turbo Camelon V2 Backbit -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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IMSAI 8080 front panel board
by Bill Degnan 27 Dec '20

27 Dec '20

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-IMSAI-s-100-Front-Panel-Display-board/1938022… b

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Revised, My take on "what is vintage computing"
by Herb Johnson 26 Dec '20

26 Dec '20

> Most computers built before 1980 have either been destroyed or lost, and of those that exist very few are still operational. ... It thus makes perfect sense that new hobbyists are gobbling up post-vintage (my term) machines such as Intel 386/486 computers, Macintosh II’s, SGI’s, NeXT and DEC VAX boxes, etc. They’re obtainable and more familiar. Well, Bill is right about the last point. 1990's computers are obtainable and more familiar to people who grew up in the 1980's and 90's. Some might be cheap because they are plentiful, or just underpriced. But here's the problem. Macs in particular, built with small surface mount components, are *failing left and right*. The capacitors weren't designed to last that long. Some of those components used inferior materials or methods. And - the components are more difficult to remove and replace on multilayer PC boards. Some of that applies to many PC-compatible boards too, depending on their era. And the Mac plastics? Crumbling. That's what plastics DO, otherwise the world would be covered with old plastics. They were not designed for 30 years use. Some pieces like reset buttons, lids, fasteners, bezels - like peanut brittle. Especially pieces around high voltage CRT's, it's the ozone. Fact. Bill - I *sell* vintage Macs. They are mostly falling apart. Some even are blasted from corroding batteries, or just moisture and rust. Sorry. Whereas (he he), those "destroyed" 1970's computers, were made in an era of owner-repair. They use large sized components on through-hole PC boards made for hand-soldering - because they were often built from kits by the owners. Translation - even "makers" that can solder Arduino kits, can figure out how to replace caps, pull IC's from boards. And the parts are STILL common, either old-stock or some new-stock. Also: no plastics. S-100 chassis are mostly metal and even wood. The toggle switches, they are plastic. $20 for an IMSAI paddle? Wow. S-100 boxes have been called "ugly boxes full of boards". Who's laughing now? "most destroyed or lost?" Better check eBay! I recently saw *well over one hundred* S-100 boards at auction. Several systems too. Thanks to the many grandpas who "hoarded" them, they have been preserved, and are now available for sale and restoration to use. Some good number of them, simply WORK. I sell those too, and that's my experience as well. They. are. repairable. and: There are STILL S-100 board kits - parts, boards, all new-stock obtained TODAY. Bill and I know people who offer them! It's its own thing! I'd never build a Pentium S-100 board, but some people have! Scares even me, Dr S-100 myself. Bill, he mentioned modern replicas too. You know, people have a right to do what's familiar, be wary of the unfamiliar. They don't know about the world before their childhood, unless they ask and look around. But ignorance can be a lost opportunity. And sticking with what you know, may get you stuck. It's all a matter of choices and opportunities, and the facts. There's enough for everyone's interests. But don't count out the 70's yet! I'm still hereeeeeee! Regards, Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT comcast DOT net

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2020, Just one more week
by Sentrytv 26 Dec '20

26 Dec '20

2020 is like Windows Millennium Edition (Me). We would like to forget it and hopefully most people do. But because of the pandemic, you know it’s going to be in the history books forever. Mike Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > On Dec 26, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Chris Fala via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Windows 9? > > iPhone 9? > > > > >> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 6:13 PM Jeffrey Jonas via vcf-midatlantic < >> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: >> >> Niel Cherry: >>> Merry Christmas and let's never speak of this year again! ;-) >> >> 2020 is kinda like Unix 4 or DOS 4: >> the bastard child that nobody talks about :-) >> >> Or more like September 3-13, 1752 >> >> https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Give-us-our-eleven-d… >> >> $ cal 9 1752 >> September 1752 >> S M Tu W Th F S >> 1 2 14 15 16 >> 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 >> 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 >>

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