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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Ken Thompson video
by Dave McGuire 10 Nov '20

10 Nov '20

On 11/10/20 3:59 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > Okay, so let the hardcore nerds, who lack any clue about > business/marketing, run your next show. I'll make popcorn > and watch how that goes. I dunno, you didn't do too bad, and you know a lot less than that. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Ken Thompson video
by Evan Koblentz 10 Nov '20

10 Nov '20

I almost forgot Chuck Peddle. On Nov 10, 2020, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: >From: Evan Koblentz <evan(a)snarc.net> >To: Tony Bogan <thebogans(a)mac.com>, vcf-midatlantic ><vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> >Sent: Tue Nov 10 15:59:39 EST 2020 >Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Ken Thompson video > >>> Adam and I had DOZENS of people who were flabbergasted at the >decision to stop the discussion come and complain to us at the >computer/software store. It was the single biggest complaint we >received at the event. > >Okay, so let the hardcore nerds, who lack any clue about >business/marketing, run your next show. I'll make popcorn and watch how >that goes. > >I brought in friggin KEN THOMPSON. Also, from past years: Brian >Kernighan, the ARPAnet director, the co-inventor of BASIC, Dan Kottke, >Ted Nelson, Stewart Cheifet, Bob Frankston, Dave Ahl, Bill Mauchly, >Bill Cheswick, Maris Graube, Jason Scott, Bil Herd, John Blakenbaker, >Bjarne Stroustrup, Dave Walden, and Don Eyles. > >Your current showrunner brought the VIC-20 marketing guy. > >Why listen to me? I can't imagine.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Ken Thompson video
by Dave McGuire 10 Nov '20

10 Nov '20

On 11/10/20 2:39 PM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Evan, I'm making this suggestion as a friend who is trying to save you further embarrassment: Just stop. Don't say anything more. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Ken Thompson video
by Evan Koblentz 10 Nov '20

10 Nov '20

>> With all of planning for Festivus going on without him, he is reliving past misperceptions of being tossed out of VCF You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Ken Thompson video
by laurakid 10 Nov '20

10 Nov '20

was in response to David’s post.... i see the thread has grown Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, November 10, 2020, 2:32 PM, laurakid via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: Ok I’ll do it.... My reaction to Evan’s post is that it is petty and (not so) passive aggressive. With all of planning for Festivus going on without him, he is reliving past misperceptions of being tossed out of VCF. In reality, the group he started had grown with the help of many who he refused to let grow up with it. Once VCF became a non-profit and a board was in place, he was annoyed that he could no longer be “president”. No one ever challenged Evan’s importance and his role as the founder and leader of VCF. However, after years of having suggestions, ideas, and objections fall on deaf ears, the board members came to an agreement to form a committee so that VCF could be operated and developed with a democratic process rather than what often seemed like a dictatorship. Evan, I apologize that this sounds rash, but in person we had conversations while working together in the warehouse where you admitted that you were annoyed at people for not doing things your way and that other members were on your nerves with opposing views. You also admitted that you were extremely stubborn and reluctant to listen to or acknowledge the contributions of others, myself included. I think you are a generally decent guy who like all humans has flaws. Currently, those are coming out in your recent posts. You created something great and when it grew, you continued to work with great people to make it even bigger and better. But when it got big enough that you needed to cooperate more with others, you opted out. In closing: A parent must let their teenager have more freedom to make their own decisions despite their objections to let them grow and thrive. You were a great parent, and still can be, you just need to let your child grow up. You can remain a part of it’s life if you can understand that it is growing up and has its own ideas. Throwing “I told you so” at it will only grow frustration and resentment. Hope all is well with you and that this message is read as the constructive criticism it was meant to be. Best, Laura Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, November 10, 2020, 12:19 PM, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: On 11/10/20 11:52 AM, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > Last year I got Ken Thompson to come to VCF East and arranged for > Brian to be there too. > > The video reached 100,000 views today: https://youtu.be/EY6q5dv_B-o > ... no other VCF video is even close. I'm quite certain that I'm not the only person who wants to say something negative about this post. But, I'm honestly rather tired of being the guy who speaks up and says what everyone else is thinking, and gets a dozen or more private replies in agreement, but not a single public voice of agreement. So, I will keep my mouth shut and let someone else perform the service. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Ken Thompson video
by Dean Notarnicola 10 Nov '20

10 Nov '20

I think exhibitors can make the decision to be responsible and go back to their exhibit at the appropriate time. Best of both worlds. Why should attendees have a talk limited by the availability of the exhibitors? On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 1:42 PM Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >> At least now we know in the future to allow exhibits to open WHILE the > keynote is still going on > > Bad idea. The exhibitors would have to worry about the public pawing at > their systems unsupervised. That's why I kept a schedule of the keynote and > THEN the exhibits, so the exhibitors were free to attend the keynote > without fear. >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Ken Thompson video
by Bill Degnan 10 Nov '20

10 Nov '20

On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 2:02 PM Alexander Pierson via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >Bad idea. The exhibitors would have to worry about the public pawing at > their systems unsupervised. > Forgive me, but don't VCF West and Midwest both do this exact thing, and > have for many years? People developed a buddy system of maintaining watch > over their friend's exhibits during panels, and you can watch the ebb and > flow of the crowd based on whichever presentation is currently happening. > -Alexander 'Z' Pierson > On Tuesday, November 10, 2020, 01:42:37 PM EST, Evan Koblentz via > vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > >> At least now we know in the future to allow exhibits to open WHILE the > keynote is still going on > > Bad idea. The exhibitors would have to worry about the public pawing at > their systems unsupervised. That's why I kept a schedule of the keynote and > THEN the exhibits, so the exhibitors were free to attend the keynote > without fear. > > > VCF MW and VCF E are two different kinds of show.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Ken Thompson video
by Alexander Pierson 10 Nov '20

10 Nov '20

>Bad idea. The exhibitors would have to worry about the public pawing at their systems unsupervised. Forgive me, but don't VCF West and Midwest both do this exact thing, and have for many years? People developed a buddy system of maintaining watch over their friend's exhibits during panels, and you can watch the ebb and flow of the crowd based on whichever presentation is currently happening. -Alexander 'Z' Pierson On Tuesday, November 10, 2020, 01:42:37 PM EST, Evan Koblentz via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: >> At least now we know in the future to allow exhibits to open WHILE the keynote is still going on Bad idea. The exhibitors would have to worry about the public pawing at their systems unsupervised. That's why I kept a schedule of the keynote and THEN the exhibits, so the exhibitors were free to attend the keynote without fear.

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Fwd: AppleIIGS
by Herb Johnson 10 Nov '20

10 Nov '20

> My problem is my printer. My > printer will print up to a page and then hang up. > .... could take a look at the ImageWriter > I live in Phoenix Arizona Jeff, my answer is so specific to this person, I'll send those details to you and you can send it to that person. The problem seems to be one common to IW II printers: the head stalls and jams to the left. I'm not aware of a fix. In the end, my advice is: buy another, working IW II that is available local to Arizona so you can save shipping. Or of course, pick up. It costs more to ship these puppies than their sale price on that auction Web site. I also advise: save the old printer. They may need the print head or other parts, for repairs owners are likely able to do. Regards, Herb Johnson -- Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com or try later herbjohnson AT comcast DOT net

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Fwd: AppleIIGS
by Jeffrey Brace 10 Nov '20

10 Nov '20

Someone is looking for help with AppleWorks on an Apple IIGS. Does anyone have any contacts in that area? Here is her problem: I have a vintage Apple IIGS computer that I still like to use. I find the Apple Works program very user-friendly. My problem is my printer. My printer will print up to a page and then hang up. I like using the Apple works programs because I can design very simple pages that I need to keep track of my books, authors, etc., and when I have read them. I find no programs or current Apple apps that would do that. I also customize it for use for my travel history, genealogical information, and various collections. Before I retired, it was great for keeping my students’ grades. No one can hack into it, and I could keep my passwords list and finance information safe. I have a lot of lists of things, and would like to be able to print them. I live in Phoenix Arizona. I was wondering if you have any kind of a list of professionals or hobbyists who could take a look at the ImageWriter and hopefully correct what is wrong. I understand there is someone in Denver, but that is a little far go for me. Anywhere in Arizona or Southern California would be OK for me. -- ========================================= Jeff Brace Vice President & Board Member Vintage Computer Festival East Show-runner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org cell: 732-759-1783

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