April 2023 - vcf-midatlantic

Re: [vcf-midatlantic] What was your single heaviest vintage computer haul?
by Daniel FitzGerald 22 Apr '23

22 Apr '23

A hoarder who had started multiple successful dot-com era startups was moving to Florida and asked my friend and I to take his hoard of computers. This included systems from his days doing Macintosh repair in the 80s, where customers gave him old systems they no longer had any use for. We filled my SUV, my friend's Subaru Impreza wagon, and I think my friend had to do two or three trips. Some of the highlights: 9 compact Macs, a Tandy CoCo Model 1 with documents and X-10 control unit, a terminal for an HP minicomputer, a VT-420, two PowerBook G3s, boxes of Mac floppy disks, most of Inset Systems corporate diskette library, an obscene number of tape drives, a Corvus Omninet with "Property of Penn-Central" tags on it, flatbed scanners, three Gateway 2000 servers, an enterprise-grade Compaq server with storage, a Commodore 64, a Commodore 128, an Amiga 500, an Amiga 1000, and a "Commodore Development Program" Amiga 2000 with cross compilation hardware for Mac and Windows. - Dan FitzGerald

1 0

Re: [vcf-midatlantic] OT Almost hate crimed at Kelly's after VCF East
by Joseph Giliberti 22 Apr '23

22 Apr '23

IMO, go ahead and punish the restaurant. It's a dive bar. When I used to hang out around that area, it was generally a place avoided by myself and any other LGBT people I knew, and this was prior to 2016. If we wanted a bar, we went to Asbury Park somewhere near Cookman Ave. Dan, you said your server was attentive. Does that mean that they were cool and wanted to help out their patrons, or that they wanted your group out of the place as soon as possible? Overall, the Monmouth shore towns tend to be very friendly and accommodating towards LGBT people (especially Asbury and Ocean Grove.) I have no doubt that a report to Neptune PD would be taken seriously. It would likely be added to a list of other incidents reports of things occuring at that bar. Just my $0.02 Joe Giliberti On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 10:20 PM rstaab via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Before punishing the restaurant, maybe reach out and see what they can do > to assist. (Do they have video that helps ID the person for example.)Your > email seemed to say the restaurant was attentive to your party.On the other > hand if they routinely allow in people like who assaulted your > acquaintance, that's a black mark. > -------- Original message --------From: Dan FitzGerald via vcf-midatlantic > <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> Date: 4/19/23 10:05 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> Cc: Dan FitzGerald < > danjfitzgerald(a)comcast.net> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] OT Almost hate > crimed at Kelly's after VCF > East Jeff,I'm talking to my party to have them report it to the Neptune > PD in themorning. I'll also call the Neptune PD and ask for their LGBTQ > liaisonofficer, and forward them the email I sent to the mailing > list(hopefully with the HTML preserved).Also: I fail to see how this is > off-topic. The only reason I even tookmy party to that restaurant was > because I was previously brought therefor a group dinner during a VCF > Mid-Atlantic repair workshop. I wantto put a stake in the ground to make > sure that we don't do a groupdinner there again.On Wed, 2023-04-19 at 18:33 > -0400, Jeff S via vcf-midatlantic wrote:> We've been to Kelly's several > times before during Workshop events. I> neverexpected that kind of behavior > from people who patronize that> pace. If I'mthinking of the correct > restaurant, it's the one that's> kind of on arounded corner, with an odd > parking layout, and has a mix> of indoor andoutdoor seating.> If you don't > want to report it to the police, report it to the> restaurant.Their > response to such a report should let you know if> this was an > isolatedincident. We're all behind you on this.> Jeff Salzman> On Wed, Apr > 19, 2023 at 3:37 PM danjfitzgerald via vcf-midatlantic <> > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote:> > Forward: I am sending this out > not as an accusation, but as a> > cautionarytale. VCF East was amazing and > the wonderful folks at> > VCF East and VCFMid-Atlantic had nothing to do > with this. That> > being said, this almosthappened to my co-exhibitors and > myself> > after we left the event and I dontknow what I can do about it > other> > than warn everybody else.On Sunday, my2.5 co-exhibitors and > myself> > were some of the last to leave InfoAge, andwent out for a> > > celebratory dinner. We've all been a little "homeless"since the> > > traditional VCF Mid-Atlantic haunt closed this winter, and I> > findThe > Brickhouse too TV intensive for dinner, and try to stick to> > locallyowned > places if I can. I suggested Kelly's in Neptune as> > that was one ofthe > places that VCF Mid-Atlantic tried out when> > looking for a new > go-todinner place last year.I didnt notice much> > of anything at the time, > and thefull details didnt come to light> > until two of my co-exhibitors > exchangedstories after we had safely> > returned home to Connecticut. But > when theydid, a disturbing> > picture emerged. On the way in, we passed a > larger whitegentleman> > wearing a black hoodie with white American flag > and other symbolson> > it. I didnt register this, but he seemed to clock > that at least> > onemember of my group was Transgender. We were entering > in single-> > file; whenhe encountered the last person in our line he made > an> > attempt to body slamher against the wall. She dodged him and said> > > "Hi, how are you doing?" asshe walked past him. Since we were> > walking > in single file, she was theonly one that saw this, and she> > didn't say > anything to the rest of ourgroup.During the meal, at> > least one couple at > the bar glared at us while weate, while the> > manager made a harried > attempt to check in on us.Everything was> > uneventful otherwise, excepting > the chef having no idea thatcorned> > beef and cabbage is supposed to be > serverd brisket style. At> > leastthey knew how to clean their taps.Our > unofficial third co-> > presenter is aninfosec specialist and has trained > themself to take> > operational securityvery seriously; whenever they enter > a room or a> > parking lot or whatever,they scan for possible threats. > They were> > also our driver that night. Theyleft the restaraunt first and> > > noticed two large men with black hoodiesstanding behind a pickup> > > truck, talking and smoking cigarettes. When themore obviously> > > transgender members of our party came out, they noticed thetwo men> > nod > at each other, throw away their cigarettes and get into> > theirtruck. We > made it into our car and they pretended to mess> > with the GPSwhile noting > that the truck just sat idling. When we> > started to back out,they noticed > the truck turn its brake lights> > on. We pulled out and thetruck followed > us. We drove to 35 and> > Belmar Avenue and then blew throughthe yield, > allowing for a car> > coming out of the QuickCheck to get betweenus and the > truck. Then> > we were able to lose the tail.Because the person inmy party > who> > almost got body checked and the person driving our car chosenot to> > > talk about it, we didnt realize until dinner back in> > Connecticutthat > this had happened. Also, the description that one> > person gave of > "bodycheck man" matched the description the other> > person gave of one of > thepickup truck men.The purpose of this story> > is to document what > happened tous on Sunday night following VCF> > East, and to also let the > VCF Mid-Atlanticcommunity know of the> > kind of people who patron Kelly's > in Neptune.Yoursalways,Dan> > FitzGeraldSent via the Samsung Galaxy S8 > Active, an AT&T> > 5GEvolution capable smartphoneRegards,Dan FitzGerald

2 1

What was your single heaviest vintage computer haul?
by Ethan O'Toole 22 Apr '23

22 Apr '23

Okay VCFers, what was your one largest single vintage computer haul? Mine is easily ~2001 time frame. Four Cray J932SE systems in one 18' dock height truck. It almost flipped on it's side. Probably 12000+ pounds of 'puter. That was the mountaintop of vintage system collecting for me then. https://users.757.org/~ethan/pics/office/cray/Image53.jpg https://users.757.org/~ethan/pics/office/cray/Image58.jpg ipad is probably faster and battery powered. Your turn!

16 24

Almost hate crimed at Kelly's after VCF East
by danjfitzgerald 22 Apr '23

22 Apr '23

Forward: I am sending this out not as an accusation, but as a cautionary tale. VCF East was amazing and the wonderful folks at VCF East and VCF Mid-Atlantic had nothing to do with this. That being said, this almost happened to my co-exhibitors and myself after we left the event and I dont know what I can do about it other than warn everybody else.On Sunday, my 2.5 co-exhibitors and myself were some of the last to leave InfoAge, and went out for a celebratory dinner. We've all been a little "homeless" since the traditional VCF Mid-Atlantic haunt closed this winter, and I find The Brickhouse too TV intensive for dinner, and try to stick to locally owned places if I can. I suggested Kelly's in Neptune as that was one of the places that VCF Mid-Atlantic tried out when looking for a new go-to dinner place last year.I didnt notice much of anything at the time, and the full details didnt come to light until two of my co-exhibitors exchanged stories after we had safely returned home to Connecticut. But when they did, a disturbing picture emerged. On the way in, we passed a larger white gentleman wearing a black hoodie with white American flag and other symbols on it. I didnt register this, but he seemed to clock that at least one member of my group was Transgender. We were entering in single-file; when he encountered the last person in our line he made an attempt to body slam her against the wall. She dodged him and said "Hi, how are you doing?" as she walked past him. Since we were walking in single file, she was the only one that saw this, and she didn't say anything to the rest of our group.During the meal, at least one couple at the bar glared at us while we ate, while the manager made a harried attempt to check in on us. Everything was uneventful otherwise, excepting the chef having no idea that corned beef and cabbage is supposed to be serverd brisket style. At least they knew how to clean their taps.Our unofficial third co-presenter is an infosec specialist and has trained themself to take operational security very seriously; whenever they enter a room or a parking lot or whatever, they scan for possible threats. They were also our driver that night. They left the restaraunt first and noticed two large men with black hoodies standing behind a pickup truck, talking and smoking cigarettes. When the more obviously transgender members of our party came out, they noticed the two men nod at each other, throw away their cigarettes and get into their truck. We made it into our car and they pretended to mess with the GPS while noting that the truck just sat idling. When we started to back out, they noticed the truck turn its brake lights on. We pulled out and the truck followed us. We drove to 35 and Belmar Avenue and then blew through the yield, allowing for a car coming out of the QuickCheck to get between us and the truck. Then we were able to lose the tail.Because the person in my party who almost got body checked and the person driving our car chose not to talk about it, we didnt realize until dinner back in Connecticut that this had happened. Also, the description that one person gave of "body check man" matched the description the other person gave of one of the pickup truck men.The purpose of this story is to document what happened to us on Sunday night following VCF East, and to also let the VCF Mid-Atlantic community know of the kind of people who patron Kelly's in Neptune.Yours always,Dan FitzGeraldSent via the Samsung Galaxy S8 Active, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone

13 27

Re: [vcf-midatlantic] vcf-midatlantic Digest, Vol 59, Issue 19
by Michael Thompson 22 Apr '23

22 Apr '23

> > From: Ian Litchfield <kd2ixl(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] vcf-midatlantic Digest, Vol 59, Issue > > A PDP 10 Where did that end up? > At the RCS/RI in Providence, Rhode Island <https://www.rcsri.org/collection/pdp-10-1090/>. -- Michael Thompson

1 0

OT: InfoAge events
by Douglas Crawford 21 Apr '23

21 Apr '23

Just a heads up, will be posting these periodically. Please support InfoAge, the location of our MidAtlantic events and museum. April 29 New Jersey Shipwreck Symposium Chambers https://www.infoage.org/event/new-jersey-shipwreck-symposium-chambers/ May 10 Alice Bowman Lecture, NASA Mission Ops Manager https://www.infoage.org/event/alice-bowman-lecture/

1 0

Re: [vcf-midatlantic] vcf-midatlantic Digest, Vol 59, Issue 18
by Michael Thompson 21 Apr '23

21 Apr '23

> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 13:05:43 -0400 (EDT) > From: Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr(a)757.org> > Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] What was your single heaviest vintage > computer haul? > > Okay VCFers, what was your one largest single vintage computer haul? > A 24 foot truck full of 22,000 pounds of DEC PDP-10 and peripherals. -- Michael Thompson

3 2

Re: [vcf-midatlantic] What was your single heaviest vintage computer haul?
by Dean Notarnicola 20 Apr '23

20 Apr '23

Space is something we have precious little of. On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 1:42 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Why not broker a deal with VCF for space? > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Apr 20, 2023, at 1:23 PM, Ethan Dicks via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 1:06 PM Ethan O'Toole via vcf-midatlantic > > <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >> Okay VCFers, what was your one largest single vintage computer haul? > > > > Two rescue candidates via (full) box truck, not sure which one is larger > > > > 1) 2x PDP-11/70, racks of Fuji Super Eagles, random peripherals > > including an 026 card punch > > > > 2) mega-DEC-haul w/11/44, 11/34, various racked peripherals (DECtape, > > RK05...) terminals... > > > > or the 5 van loads of PDP-11 and VAX gear (and the raised flooring) I > > bought from my employer when they closed in 1993. > > > > Fortunately none of this is in rental storage. No worries about rent > > hikes, locker auctions, etc... But I could use 500-1000 blank sq ft > > to really set this stuff up so it can be gotten to from front and > > back. > > > > It's been pretty dry for big DEC rescues for 20 years but 1985-2000 > > was great for it. > > > > -ethan > >

2 1

Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Slightly OT: "Minute Ahead Men" Revisited (origi. Commodore 1702 door, Sept 2020)
by Jeff Salzman 20 Apr '23

20 Apr '23

And after the moment in time has passed, the Langoliers come in to clear it all away... The Langoliers (miniseries) - Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Langoliers_(miniseries)> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 12:54 PM Bill Inderrieden via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > I stumbled across the original Twilight Zone Episode in its entirety, that > refreshes what we were talking about back in Sept 2020. > See: > https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7xgrpk > About 16 minutes long and no commercials. > > So now the matter of time has been fully explained. Forget Asimov, > Einstein, Hawking, and all the rest of the quacks in the scientific > community > ( smiling ). The science has been laid out for everyone to see. It's in > train BOXCARS !! > I still firmly believe in the "Minute Ahead Men" ! > > Enjoy; > Bill Inderrieden > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: svcatitc(a)aol.com > To: vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2020 3:04 pm > Subject: Commodore 1702 door > > Jeffrey Brace jeffrey at vcfed.org Writes:Wed Sep 2 13:48:24 EDT 2020 > > Sounds like an Outer Limits episode where the world was taken apart and > remade every moment and sometimes they made mistakes which is why when you > lose your keys you find time in a place that you already searched. > > I thought this was a Spielberg "Amazing Stories" episode, obviously not. > > The episode is: > "A Matter of Minutes" is the third segment of the fifteenth episode from > the first season (1985–86) of the television series The Twilight Zone. > See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Matter_of_Minutes > I remember that scene where the couple is in the "Void of White Space" > and the "Supervisor of the Maintenance of Time" says: > (paraphrasing) > > "Ya know how you go back to look for something you know is supposed to be > there multiple times and then it finally is where you thoughtit should be? > That's us. We forgot something. We are now working on moving Christmas!" > > > I personally call them the "Minute-Ahead" men and you may hear me at a > workshop cursing at them!!!! I DOOO BELIEVE! > > Bill Inderrieden >

2 1

Commodore 1702 door
by svcatitc＠aol.com 20 Apr '23

20 Apr '23

Jeffrey Brace jeffrey at vcfed.org Writes:Wed Sep 2 13:48:24 EDT 2020 Sounds like an Outer Limits episode where the world was taken apart and remade every moment and sometimes they made mistakes which is why when you lose your keys you find time in a place that you already searched. I thought this was a Spielberg "Amazing Stories" episode, obviously not. The episode is: "A Matter of Minutes" is the third segment of the fifteenth episode from the first season (1985–86) of the television series The Twilight Zone. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Matter_of_Minutes I remember that scene where the couple is in the "Void of White Space" and the "Supervisor of the Maintenance of Time" says: (paraphrasing) "Ya know how you go back to look for something you know is supposed to be there multiple times and then it finally is where you thoughtit should be? That's us. We forgot something. We are now working on moving Christmas!" I personally call them the "Minute-Ahead" men and you may hear me at a workshop cursing at them!!!! I DOOO BELIEVE! Bill Inderrieden

1 1