September 2026 - vcf-midatlantic

Re: vcf-midatlantic Digest, Vol 178, Issue 1
by Jeffrey Golas 07 Sep '26

07 Sep '26

If you get no takers, Ill take it. Im in the Philly Burbs. Can possibly meet somewhere. I also have a couple Model 28s looking for a home. Jeff > On Sep 6, 2026, at 8:00 PM, vcf-midatlantic-request(a)lists.vcfed.org wrote: > > Send vcf-midatlantic mailing list submissions to > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > vcf-midatlantic-request(a)lists.vcfed.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > vcf-midatlantic-owner(a)lists.vcfed.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of vcf-midatlantic digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Bell Atlantic M15 available for pick-up -- Mid-Atlantic Region > (pbirkel(a)gmail.com) > 2. M15 w/ table and loop supply available for pick-up -- Mid-Atlantic Region > (pbirkel(a)gmail.com) > 3. Re: Bell Atlantic M15 available for pick-up -- Mid-Atlantic Region > (Glenn Roberts) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2026 07:03:34 -0400 > From: <pbirkel(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] Bell Atlantic M15 available for pick-up -- > Mid-Atlantic Region > To: <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > Message-ID: <014f01dd3def$5c985c70$15c91550$(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Last week I recovered a Teletype M15 from heading to the trash. > > > > It's been in storage near Great Falls, VA, for about two decades. I'm told > that it came out of a Bell Atlantic central office. The > > last one there, presumably abandoned in place years ago. And that on its > last day all the workers there signed the cover. > > > > The cover is white and carries the Bell Atlantic blue and yellow > racing-stripe livery plus employee autographs. The sound deadening material > on the inside is in quite good shape; one flap needs to be reattached. The > unit itself looks to be in pretty good condition, all keycaps in place I > haven't tried to move any mechanisms as I imagine that the main shaft needs > to be attended to first. > > > > Note that this is a 5-bit BAUDOT machine, so all UPPER CASE plus digits and > some other symbols. There are hobbyist-implementations using a MCU to > translate between BAUDOT and ASCII. It uses a 60mA interface to a typical > signaling voltage around 100 Vdc; there are hobbyist-implementations to > handle conversion to either 20mA and/or RS-232 signal levels. > > > > Photos are posted at: > > > > https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1WOey5abqLVmyBHq9jedAZcbb9ADx4We7?usp > =sharing > > > > I will try to answer any questions that those photos may inspire, or take > additional photos of specific areas if requested. > > > > At the moment it's located near Wheaton, MD. > > > > If there is a committed recipient in the general vicinity of Lewes, DE, then > I probably can get it transported there on Saturday the 12th (one week from > yesterday) by a hobbyist who is making an infrequent trip to the DC area. > > > > It there is a committed recipient in the vicinity of Wall, NJ, then I may be > able to get it transported further from Lewes to the VCF swap meet on > October 17th (https://vcfed.org/vcf-swap-meet/) Next Saturday the 12th > would still be a critical date on that path as the hobbyist stopping by on > the 12th would be the "mule" to the VCF swap meet. > > > > So if relocation to either Lewes, DE, or Wall, NJ (only on Oct. 17th) would > "seal the deal" for someone then TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. And a firm > commitment! > > > > Hopefully there is someone here (or perhaps a friend/associate of someone > here) who would like to receive this unit, gratis :-}. > > > > For speed of response/interaction I recommend email to me directly at > pbirkel(a)gmail.com <mailto:pbirkel@gmail.com> with cc: to the list as deemed > appropriate to the community conversation. > > > > Thank you, > > > > * paul > > > > [PS: Of course I've also posted to the Greenkeys mailing list.] > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2026 07:08:45 -0400 > From: <pbirkel(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] M15 w/ table and loop supply available for > pick-up -- Mid-Atlantic Region > To: <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > Message-ID: <015b01dd3df0$15c30290$414907b0$(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > There's another Teletype M15 located nearby that is heading to the trash. > > > > Unlike the Bell Atlantic unit this one has the standard cover in black > wrinkle paint. Good condition, although the interior sound deadening > padding has deteriorated and will benefit from some repair. The unit itself > looks to be in pretty good condition, although one keycaps is missing and > the keyboard mechanism needs come cleaning. Note that the main frame is > cast aluminum. I haven't tried to move any mechanisms as I imagine that the > main shaft needs to be attended to first. > > > > Note that this is a 5-bit BAUDOT machine, so all UPPER CASE plus digits and > some other symbols. There are hobbyist-implementations using a MCU to > translate between BAUDOT and ASCII. It uses a 60mA interface to a typical > signaling voltage around 100 Vdc; there are hobbyist-implementations to > handle conversion to either 20mA and/or RS-232 signal levels. > > > > A limited set of photos are posted at: > > > > https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1JnmckMv6Ei_VJPBDSfQmRyLSooQI6Wy0?usp > =sharing > > > > The unit is currently stored in a minivan near Wheaton, MD, that will get > called into service at some time in the future, at which point it will all > get unceremoniously trashed. I don't have ready access to the unit so can't > say much more specific about the unit but will try to answer any questions > that the current photos may inspire, or take additional photos of specific > areas if requested. I have personally inspected the unit so I -can_ say > that the current photos are representative. The table is in somewhat better > condition than the photos show as the rust is pretty much confined to the > top and in particular the three channels that hold in place the (missing) > sound deadening mat. > > > > At the moment it's located near Wheaton, MD. > > > > If there is a committed recipient in the general vicinity of Lewes, DE, then > I probably can get the M15 itself transported there on Saturday the 12th > (one week from yesterday) by a hobbyist who is making an infrequent trip to > the DC area. Maybe also the loop supply. > > > > It there is a committed recipient in the vicinity of Wall, NJ, then I may be > able to get the M15 itself (and maybe also the loop supply) transported > further from Lewes to the VCF swap meet on October 17th > (https://vcfed.org/vcf-swap-meet/) Next Saturday the 12th would still be a > critical date on that path as the hobbyist stopping by on the 12th would be > the "mule" to the VCF swap meet. > > > > So if relocation to either Lewes, DE, or Wall, NJ (only on Oct. 17th) would > "seal the deal" for someone then TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. And a firm > commitment! > > > > The table would require a local P/U. > > > > Hopefully there is someone here (or perhaps a friend/associate of someone > here) who would like to receive this unit, gratis :-}. > > > > For speed of response/interaction I recommend email to me directly at > pbirkel(a)gmail.com <mailto:pbirkel@gmail.com> with cc: to the list as deemed > appropriate to the community conversation. > > > > Thank you, > > > > * paul > > > > [PS: Of course I've also posted to the Greenkeys mailing list.] > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2026 08:27:24 -0400 > From: Glenn Roberts <glenn.f.roberts(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [vcf-midatlantic] Re: Bell Atlantic M15 available for pick-up > -- Mid-Atlantic Region > To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > Cc: vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org > Message-ID: <8B304A04-C36B-4F57-88DA-16F17F6A6243(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Right. I’m the guy in Lewes DE and plan to connect with Paul next weekend. I could help get this to Wall, or the Philadelphia area if we can find an interested party. Hope we can find a home and new owner for this cool antique! Awesome to see one of these in action. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Sep 6, 2026, at 7:03 AM, pbirkel--- via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: >> >> Last week I recovered a Teletype M15 from heading to the trash. >> >> >> >> It's been in storage near Great Falls, VA, for about two decades. I'm told >> that it came out of a Bell Atlantic central office. The >> >> last one there, presumably abandoned in place years ago. And that on its >> last day all the workers there signed the cover. >> >> >> >> The cover is white and carries the Bell Atlantic blue and yellow >> racing-stripe livery plus employee autographs. The sound deadening material >> on the inside is in quite good shape; one flap needs to be reattached. The >> unit itself looks to be in pretty good condition, all keycaps in place I >> haven't tried to move any mechanisms as I imagine that the main shaft needs >> to be attended to first. >> >> >> >> Note that this is a 5-bit BAUDOT machine, so all UPPER CASE plus digits and >> some other symbols. There are hobbyist-implementations using a MCU to >> translate between BAUDOT and ASCII. It uses a 60mA interface to a typical >> signaling voltage around 100 Vdc; there are hobbyist-implementations to >> handle conversion to either 20mA and/or RS-232 signal levels. >> >> >> >> Photos are posted at: >> >> >> >> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1WOey5abqLVmyBHq9jedAZcbb9ADx4We7?usp >> =sharing >> >> >> >> I will try to answer any questions that those photos may inspire, or take >> additional photos of specific areas if requested. >> >> >> >> At the moment it's located near Wheaton, MD. >> >> >> >> If there is a committed recipient in the general vicinity of Lewes, DE, then >> I probably can get it transported there on Saturday the 12th (one week from >> yesterday) by a hobbyist who is making an infrequent trip to the DC area. >> >> >> >> It there is a committed recipient in the vicinity of Wall, NJ, then I may be >> able to get it transported further from Lewes to the VCF swap meet on >> October 17th (https://vcfed.org/vcf-swap-meet/) Next Saturday the 12th >> would still be a critical date on that path as the hobbyist stopping by on >> the 12th would be the "mule" to the VCF swap meet. >> >> >> >> So if relocation to either Lewes, DE, or Wall, NJ (only on Oct. 17th) would >> "seal the deal" for someone then TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. And a firm >> commitment! >> >> >> >> Hopefully there is someone here (or perhaps a friend/associate of someone >> here) who would like to receive this unit, gratis :-}. >> >> >> >> For speed of response/interaction I recommend email to me directly at >> pbirkel(a)gmail.com <mailto:pbirkel@gmail.com> with cc: to the list as deemed >> appropriate to the community conversation. >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> >> * paul >> >> >> >> [PS: Of course I've also posted to the Greenkeys mailing list.] >> >> >> > > End of vcf-midatlantic Digest, Vol 178, Issue 1 > ***********************************************

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Bell Atlantic M15 available for pick-up -- Mid-Atlantic Region
by pbirkel＠gmail.com 06 Sep '26

06 Sep '26

Last week I recovered a Teletype M15 from heading to the trash. It's been in storage near Great Falls, VA, for about two decades. I'm told that it came out of a Bell Atlantic central office. The last one there, presumably abandoned in place years ago. And that on its last day all the workers there signed the cover. The cover is white and carries the Bell Atlantic blue and yellow racing-stripe livery plus employee autographs. The sound deadening material on the inside is in quite good shape; one flap needs to be reattached. The unit itself looks to be in pretty good condition, all keycaps in place I haven't tried to move any mechanisms as I imagine that the main shaft needs to be attended to first. Note that this is a 5-bit BAUDOT machine, so all UPPER CASE plus digits and some other symbols. There are hobbyist-implementations using a MCU to translate between BAUDOT and ASCII. It uses a 60mA interface to a typical signaling voltage around 100 Vdc; there are hobbyist-implementations to handle conversion to either 20mA and/or RS-232 signal levels. Photos are posted at: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1WOey5abqLVmyBHq9jedAZcbb9ADx4We7?usp =sharing I will try to answer any questions that those photos may inspire, or take additional photos of specific areas if requested. At the moment it's located near Wheaton, MD. If there is a committed recipient in the general vicinity of Lewes, DE, then I probably can get it transported there on Saturday the 12th (one week from yesterday) by a hobbyist who is making an infrequent trip to the DC area. It there is a committed recipient in the vicinity of Wall, NJ, then I may be able to get it transported further from Lewes to the VCF swap meet on October 17th (https://vcfed.org/vcf-swap-meet/) Next Saturday the 12th would still be a critical date on that path as the hobbyist stopping by on the 12th would be the "mule" to the VCF swap meet. So if relocation to either Lewes, DE, or Wall, NJ (only on Oct. 17th) would "seal the deal" for someone then TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. And a firm commitment! Hopefully there is someone here (or perhaps a friend/associate of someone here) who would like to receive this unit, gratis :-}. For speed of response/interaction I recommend email to me directly at pbirkel(a)gmail.com <mailto:pbirkel@gmail.com> with cc: to the list as deemed appropriate to the community conversation. Thank you, * paul [PS: Of course I've also posted to the Greenkeys mailing list.]

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M15 w/ table and loop supply available for pick-up -- Mid-Atlantic Region
by pbirkel＠gmail.com 06 Sep '26

06 Sep '26

There's another Teletype M15 located nearby that is heading to the trash. Unlike the Bell Atlantic unit this one has the standard cover in black wrinkle paint. Good condition, although the interior sound deadening padding has deteriorated and will benefit from some repair. The unit itself looks to be in pretty good condition, although one keycaps is missing and the keyboard mechanism needs come cleaning. Note that the main frame is cast aluminum. I haven't tried to move any mechanisms as I imagine that the main shaft needs to be attended to first. Note that this is a 5-bit BAUDOT machine, so all UPPER CASE plus digits and some other symbols. There are hobbyist-implementations using a MCU to translate between BAUDOT and ASCII. It uses a 60mA interface to a typical signaling voltage around 100 Vdc; there are hobbyist-implementations to handle conversion to either 20mA and/or RS-232 signal levels. A limited set of photos are posted at: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1JnmckMv6Ei_VJPBDSfQmRyLSooQI6Wy0?usp =sharing The unit is currently stored in a minivan near Wheaton, MD, that will get called into service at some time in the future, at which point it will all get unceremoniously trashed. I don't have ready access to the unit so can't say much more specific about the unit but will try to answer any questions that the current photos may inspire, or take additional photos of specific areas if requested. I have personally inspected the unit so I -can_ say that the current photos are representative. The table is in somewhat better condition than the photos show as the rust is pretty much confined to the top and in particular the three channels that hold in place the (missing) sound deadening mat. At the moment it's located near Wheaton, MD. If there is a committed recipient in the general vicinity of Lewes, DE, then I probably can get the M15 itself transported there on Saturday the 12th (one week from yesterday) by a hobbyist who is making an infrequent trip to the DC area. Maybe also the loop supply. It there is a committed recipient in the vicinity of Wall, NJ, then I may be able to get the M15 itself (and maybe also the loop supply) transported further from Lewes to the VCF swap meet on October 17th (https://vcfed.org/vcf-swap-meet/) Next Saturday the 12th would still be a critical date on that path as the hobbyist stopping by on the 12th would be the "mule" to the VCF swap meet. So if relocation to either Lewes, DE, or Wall, NJ (only on Oct. 17th) would "seal the deal" for someone then TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. And a firm commitment! The table would require a local P/U. Hopefully there is someone here (or perhaps a friend/associate of someone here) who would like to receive this unit, gratis :-}. For speed of response/interaction I recommend email to me directly at pbirkel(a)gmail.com <mailto:pbirkel@gmail.com> with cc: to the list as deemed appropriate to the community conversation. Thank you, * paul [PS: Of course I've also posted to the Greenkeys mailing list.]

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Cray supercomputer dollar coin, coming soon!
by Jeffrey Jonas 05 Sep '26

05 Sep '26

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/invention-featured-wisconsins-american-… NJ's coin continues Thomas Edison's PR campaign for the light bulb :-( https://www.usmint.gov/american-innovation-2019-1-reverse-proof-coin-new-je…

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Earliest version of MSDOS recovered
by Richard Cini 04 Sep '26

04 Sep '26

All — I haven’t been able to talk about this early MSDOS recovery project since a few of us began working on it in September, but you can see the blog post by Scott Hanselman here. Scott’s post links to both @BrokenPipe’s site and mine where we discuss the process. In short, I was able to get 700-ish pages of original source listings from Tim Paterson which I scanned and then we converted to workable source code. It’s the earliest known version of DOS code to exist in the wild. https://opensource.microsoft.com/blog/2026/04/28/continuing-the-story-of-ea… Rich http://cini.classiccmp.org/ https://github.com/RichCini Long Island S100 User’s Group Get Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

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OT - Wanted for use at CDL
by Martin A Flynn 04 Sep '26

04 Sep '26

Thanks to a kind stranger (OK, really was one of the folks who help out), CDL now has a APC SUA3000RM2U UPS for the audio rack in the studio. Hopefully this shields the Studio gear from any additional spike and surge damage. It needs fresh batteries and mounting hardware, so check your junk & leftovers piles for a rack kit Part number is APC SU032A, picture is at http://compdecon.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/apc_rack_kit.jpg

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Re: Possibly OT: vintage vacuum tubes question
by Bob Shuster 04 Sep '26

04 Sep '26

Thanks for the advice! So these were my father-in-law’s. He was a PhD electrical engineer who did communications research and implementation for RCA and NASA/DOD (through RCA) in the 60s and 70s. He also built his own stereo equipment - amps, crossovers, etc. - and I suspect most of these were from that, although he may have scavenged some from work. I guess it would behoove me to catalog what’s there, but I’m not going to the trouble of testing. This is truly out of my area of expertise as I've never done anything with vacuum tubes other than building a Nixie clock. There may be some valuable ones in there but honestly I’d be happy to sell the whole unit as a lot for say $100. I definitely appreciate the input! - Bob Shuster

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VCF Mid-Atlantic Steering Committee Nominations
by Jeff Salzman 03 Sep '26

03 Sep '26

Members of the VCF MidAtlantic Mailing List, Another year has passed by, and it's time for the VCF-MA annual Steering Committee elections There are currently four seats becoming vacant. Jeff Salzman, Dave McGuire, Doug Crawford, and Ian Litchfield have either reached the end of their appointed terms or have resigned. Nominations to fill those positions are now open. The election will be held according to sections 4 and 5 of our published by-laws, listed at the end of this email and linked below. https://vcfed.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/VCFMA-Charter-Jul2022.pdf) Anyone who directly receives this message and has been a member of the VCF Mailing List for at least 30 days is eligible to vote. There is no 30-day restriction to mailing list membership to be nominated as a candidate. Current members of the mailing list in good standing are eligible to submit nominations for Committee member candidates. Nominations can be made by simply communicating the nomination via e-mail to a current Committee member: Thomas Gilinsky - thomas.gilinsky(a)vcfed.org, Dave McGuire - dave.mcguire(a)vcfed.org, Douglas Crawford - douglas.crawford(a)vcfed.org, Ian Litchfield - ian.litchfield(a)vcfed.org, or Jeff Salzman - jeff.salzman(a)vcf.org) Members of the mailing list may also self-nominate. To be eligible for the election, the prospective nominee must then accept the nomination by replying in the affirmative to the nomination email. One nomination per member can be made. Nominations will close on November 23nd at 11:59PM. An updated list of eligible nominees will be published regularly. Nominees are also encouraged to provide a position statement, which will be posted to the VCF-MA website for prospective voters to read. Voting will commence on November 30th, and will close at 11:59pm on December 13. Winners will be announced on December 14 during the Town hall event at our annual VCF Holiday celebration. Thank you, Jeff Salzman Chairman - VCF-MA Steering Committee ---------------------------------------- 4. COMMITTEE ELECTIONS Steering committee membership includes representation of VCF membership, as determined by the VCF governing board and VCF-MA sponsored elections. - The committee membership will be determined by elections to be held on a yearly basis (currently November). - Committee membership is ideally comprised of five people but may vary due to changing circumstances. Any committee vote to determine an increase in committee members shall be held within six months after a new election cycle. - A minimum of one seat will be up for election in every cycle, unless additional vacancies create the need for additional seats to be filled, in which case all vacant seats will be up for election in that cycle. - In the event of a tie, a two-week runoff election will be held. - If a tie still exists after the runoff, the non-running committee members will determine a winner. - In the event of a committee tie, the current chairperson or chair delegate will determine the winner. - Nominations for committee members can be made by current members in good standing simply by communicating the nomination to a committee member. One nomination per member can be made. Said members may also self-nominate. - In the case of off-cycle vacancies, the committee may move, without a public election, to appoint by simple majority vote new committee members to fill the seats until the next scheduled election. - A committee chairperson will be appointed by the committee members within 30 days of each completed election cycle. At that time a recording secretary will be selected. - Prospective committee members should be knowledgeable in some aspect of computing, preferably vintage computers, and show a demonstrated interest in vintage computing, computing history, and museum management and governance. - In order to be sufficiently aware and have proper perspective of museum and warehouse issues, prospective committee members should be able to physically attend VCF events at least quarterly and attend meetings regularly. 5. VCF MEMBERSHIP VCF general membership is open and granted to anyone who joins the mailing list. Voting rights will be granted to active list members who join no less than 30 days before an election.

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Re: Possibly OT: vintage vacuum tubes question
by Bob Shuster 03 Sep '26

03 Sep '26

Hopefully I can post a link, but I finally got around to laying out the tubes and taking some photos (link below.) Any interest? I’m near the Fort Washington Exit of the PA Turnpike - just outside of the Chestnut Hill section of Philadelphia. There are 166 tubes in total, 8 are boxed, plus clips, sleeves, and sockets, plus a boxed Series 200 Relay Coil Assembly. - Bob Shuster https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/14eD4bBqvaYx5AgVcnEKYGIePCNHwJlOa?us… > On Sun, Aug 9, 2026 at 12:53 PM Bob Shuster via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >> In going through my FIL’s things I came across a box with a few hundred >> vacuum tubes, most just loose in the box. For reference, my FIL was a PhD >> electrical engineer who worked at RCA - on NASA and other projects - but >> also liked to build his own speakers and amplifiers. I do not have a tester >> and in fact my electrical knowledge starts with transistors. I don’t want >> to give these away - I’m sure he spent hundreds if not more on them - but I >> also don’t want to go through the process of packing them all for shipping. >> There are some monster 13cm x 5cm tubes down to smaller c. 5cm tubes. I >> will lay them out and take photos and try to do some ID, but does anyone >> have any thoughts on these - or perhaps any interest? >> >> - Bob Shuster

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Re: Possibly OT: vintage vacuum tubes question
by Sentrytv 03 Sep '26

03 Sep '26

Bob If those were transistors from the 50’s, I would be interested. Maybe you have some of those ? Since the tubes are loose and not boxed, there may be a few that are new and in good condition. But most are average tubes. Personally, I would not be interested in the tubes, sorry. Mike Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > On Sep 2, 2026, at 9:38 PM, Bob Shuster via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Hopefully I can post a link, but I finally got around to laying out the tubes and taking some photos (link below.) Any interest? I’m near the Fort Washington Exit of the PA Turnpike - just outside of the Chestnut Hill section of Philadelphia. There are 166 tubes in total, 8 are boxed, plus clips, sleeves, and sockets, plus a boxed Series 200 Relay Coil Assembly. > > - Bob Shuster > > https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/14eD4bBqvaYx5AgVcnEKYGIePCNHwJlOa?us… > >> On Sun, Aug 9, 2026 at 12:53 PM Bob Shuster via vcf-midatlantic < >> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: >> >>> In going through my FIL’s things I came across a box with a few hundred >>> vacuum tubes, most just loose in the box. For reference, my FIL was a PhD >>> electrical engineer who worked at RCA - on NASA and other projects - but >>> also liked to build his own speakers and amplifiers. I do not have a tester >>> and in fact my electrical knowledge starts with transistors. I don’t want >>> to give these away - I’m sure he spent hundreds if not more on them - but I >>> also don’t want to go through the process of packing them all for shipping. >>> There are some monster 13cm x 5cm tubes down to smaller c. 5cm tubes. I >>> will lay them out and take photos and try to do some ID, but does anyone >>> have any thoughts on these - or perhaps any interest? >>> - Bob Shuster

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