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Friden Flexowriter in Trenton
by Joseph Giliberti 14 Sep '24

14 Sep '24

At $700 the price is a bit steep, but they aren't exactly common https://www.facebook.com/share/riPGR4N2g2EbnRcM/?mibextid=kL3p88

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] OT- NTE ELECTRONICS IS NO MORE
by Dave McGuire 12 Sep '24

12 Sep '24

Well they certainly didn't pull any punches about their suit problem. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Part #1 of the Paul Allen Collection
by Christian Liendo 11 Sep '24

11 Sep '24

https://www.christies.com/en/auction/pushing-boundaries-ingenuity-from-the-… $945k for the Apple I

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] OT- NTE ELECTRONICS IS NO MORE
by Neil Cherry 11 Sep '24

11 Sep '24

On 9/11/24 14:37, Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic wrote: Wow, one of the last. :( -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry kd2zrq(a)linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies KD2ZRQ

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OT- NTE ELECTRONICS IS NO MORE
by Sentrytv 11 Sep '24

11 Sep '24

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HomeBrew computer club reunion part 1
by Christian Liendo 11 Sep '24

11 Sep '24

>From the description: Welcome to the first part of a three-part series, telling the story of the early days of personal computing. Before the era of personal computers, a club was formed by engineers, hobbyists, students, and anyone interested in computers. This was a time when computers were only available at colleges, universities, or large companies. The club all got started from an ad-hoc gathering of people meeting at a pot luck dinner in the Palo Alto area. It was at these meetings where the idea of starting a club was born. This video, and the following two, highlights reminiscing from the original people involved, including Steve Wozniak, Lee Felsenstein, Dan Soquel, and a host of others who are still alive to tell their story. So sit back, relax and enjoy this unique journey through the history of personal computing. https://youtu.be/j1roYUAQdnQ?si=V3mYt43EMBE_3v8P

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Does anyone want to fly to Texas?
by Christian Liendo 06 Sep '24

06 Sep '24

https://www.margiebeeglesales.com/Sales/2024-08-22%203%20Generations%20Anti…

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TRS-80 Model III for sale in Northern VA
by Dean Notarnicola 06 Sep '24

06 Sep '24

In case anyone is interested, Eric Shor contacted us about the availability of a 48K TRS-80 Model III.. His description: *"It's the original (as purchased, no modifications) Model III, 48K memory.* *I was able to boot it enough to get to BASIC w/ the ESC key depressed.* *The contrast knobs are stuck but you can see the screen enough.* *The boot disk drive lights up and moves but I believe it needs some love on the mechanical side and possibly head cleaning.* *I have 100s of floppy discs. Both TRS-DOS and L-DOS"* Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/sBEA4s6KANSWyYQa6 Please contact him off-list if you are interested: erishor(a)msn.com Regards, Dean

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] slightly OT: Collector vs. Hoarder
by Bill Degnan 06 Sep '24

06 Sep '24

I felt bad after I sent my response. I stand by what I said, but what I really meant to say is *you* should be working now to use and preserve vintage tech that means something to you because the only chance it has living past you is how well you take care of it while you're still around. Does that make sense? I work on some vintage computing project every day. Been doing it since the late 80s with IBM XT boards and servicing them when they started to get phased out and replaced by PS/2's. Shortly after got back into Commodore 128's, then I got my first S-100 system (a Cromemco System One) and a few Tandy III's, and... Bill On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 2:31 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > More space junk for us to send up. > > It’s getting a little ridiculous, > as if whoever is on the receiving end is going to know how to use any of > this Tech, > if it all. > > Mike > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Sep 5, 2024, at 2:21 PM, Bart Hirst via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > Haha, yea Bill's comments had me thinking of how to send a time capsule > of > > vintage tech into space. Maybe the space catapult can fling a few Apple > > II's into orbit. Makes me wonder what was in the trunk of Elon's tesla > > before launch, could have hidden a C64, 1541, CRT and maybe a copy of > > karateka. Well the 1541 may be pushing it, unless they threw in a > > fastloader cart. > > > >> On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 11:55 AM David L Kuhn via vcf-midatlantic < > >> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >> > >> Way to bring down a party Bill. lol > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces(a)lists.vcfed.org> On > Behalf > >> Of Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2024 5:01 PM > >> To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > >> Cc: Bill Degnan <billdegnan(a)gmail.com> > >> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] slightly OT: Collector vs. Hoarder > >> > >> Hello Bart. > >> I bet even among us tech hobbyists and purveyors of antique computers a > >> low percentage has anything really old beyond their personal interest. > >> Uber old tech collectors are out there, but they're much rarer and may > not > >> have the skills to support their items. They become "art" and thus how > >> they look on a display is more important than anything. > >> > >> It comes down to this, you can pass along stuff but you can't pass along > >> passion. To find one passionate person after another over the > generations > >> to keep an unremarkable Atari going (why?) would be quite unusual. An > >> Apple I stuff like that yes, but there is a short list of items that > will > >> be worth preserving over a longer stretch of time. Very very few > vintage > >> computing items will survive 100 years, and of these, very very few will > >> be complete and restorable, not to mention functional. > >> > >> There are always exceptions, maybe a collection large enough will > attract > >> an audience, or get absorbed into a future museum, but only the best > stuff > >> will survive. And with large collections there has to be an > >> institutional/financial commitment, security, protection against looting > >> when times get tough, etc. Anything that's not truly historic that > >> survives will be the exception not the rule. It'll be random stuff, > >> things that hang on the wall like front panels and interesting software > >> packaging that randomly might find themselves into the right hands 200 > >> years from now. > >> > >> To make it into the future an item will have to be meticulously curated, > >> and the item would have to be valuable enough to be worth the expense of > >> maintaining year after year. > >> > >> 500 years from now you'll still be able to see vintage computers in > >> museums, but only the few that were meticulously preserved, and > extremely > >> lucky. > >> > >> SO - just have fun with what you have. Use it or lose it. > >> > >> b > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 12:21 PM Bart Hirst via vcf-midatlantic < > >> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >> > >>> One bad scenario I can think of is an individual who isn't at all > >>> interested in estate planning, and has no close friends or relatives > >>> with knowledge of their collection at hand when they move on, and thus > >>> things could go off the rails when put in the hands of someone who is > >>> not prepared and/or equipped to do anything other than call 1-800-junk. > >>> > >>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 12:03 PM Hopkins, Justin via vcf-midatlantic < > >>> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >>> > >>>> And I am pretty sure everyone remembers this. > >>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19665632.amp > >>>> ________________________________ > >>>> From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces(a)lists.vcfed.org> on > >>> behalf > >>>> of Dean Notarnicola via vcf-midatlantic > >>>> <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org > >>>> > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2024 3:40:32 PM > >>>> To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > >>>> Cc: Dean Notarnicola <dnotarnicola(a)gmail.com> > >>>> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] slightly OT: Collector vs. Hoarder > >>>> > >>>> This discussion has come up several times in the past year. I'm > >>>> wondering if I should expand/update and repeat my VCF talk from a > >>>> few years ago on the lifecycle of collections; establishing, > >>>> maintaining and final disposition. Thoughts? - Dean > >>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender > >>>> This message came from outside your organization. > >>>> > >>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > >>>> > >>>> This discussion has come up several times in the past year. I'm > >>>> wondering if I should expand/update and repeat my VCF talk from a > >>>> few years ago on the lifecycle of collections; establishing, > >>>> maintaining and final disposition. Thoughts? > >>>> > >>>> - Dean > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 9:29 AM Chris Fala via vcf-midatlantic < > >>>> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Yes, I do know the distinction between you personally and the > >>>> organization. > >>>>> I thought of that as I was typing, but figured it would still get > >>>>> the > >>>> point > >>>>> across. Sorry if my phrasing distorted the situation. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 9:05 AM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < > >>>>> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks for the props, but remember that LSSM is not "Dave's > >>> stuff". > >>>>>> I have my own computers at home. Nearly all of my (computer) > >>>>>> stuff > >>>> will > >>>>>> go to LSSM when I kick the bucket. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -Dave > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 8/28/24 08:53, Chris Fala via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > >>>>>>> Don't forget about exhibiting/presenting/sharing stuff now so > >>> people > >>>>> can > >>>>>>> enjoy our collections while we are still alive. McGuire is a > >>> perfect > >>>>>>> example of this, and I am not. Someone want to come over and > >>>>>>> help > >>> me > >>>>>>> organize my storage unit(s)? ;-) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 8:48 AM Bob Shuster via > >>>>>>> vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> My bad, Dave! It was Mike Rosen (Sentrytv) responding to your > >>>> message > >>>>>> who > >>>>>>>> pointed this out, and I mixed up who said what! - Bob > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> From: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] slightly OT: Collector vs. > >>>>>>>>> Hoarder On 8/27/24 10:32, Bob Shuster via vcf-midatlantic > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> This is precisely why I started to sell off my collection, > >>>>>>>>>> and > >>> as > >>>>>>>>>> Dave McGuire pointed out it?s the people who come after > >>>>>>>>>> we?re > >>> gone > >>>>>>>>>> that will have to deal with it! As I stated on the front > >>>>>>>>>> page of > >>>> my > >>>>>>>>>> sales page: "There comes a time when one's collection > >>>>>>>>>> overwhelms > >>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> ability to store or maintain it ... I imagine the pain of > >>>>>>>>>> my > >>>> family > >>>>>>>>>> in having to do this after I'm gone!" > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I certainly wasn't the one who pointed that out. I was > >>>>>>>>> the > >>> one > >>>>>>>>> advocating for finding a compatible spouse to begin with. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> If fat, funny-looking, high-maintenance "me" can do it, > >>>>>>>>> any > >>> guy > >>>>> can. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -Dave > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ > >>>>>> New Kensington, PA > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of > >>>> the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and > >>> confidential. > >>>> If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an > >>> authorized > >>>> representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified > >>>> that > >>> any > >>>> dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you > >>>> have received this communication in error, please notify us > >>>> immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from > >> your system. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Bart Hirst > >>> "This signature will now be eaten up and spit out by Velociraptors." > >>> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Bart Hirst > > "This signature will now be eaten up and spit out by Velociraptors." > >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] slightly OT: Collector vs. Hoarder
by Jeff S 05 Sep '24

05 Sep '24

Wait... did you just describe the Voyager project? 😉 (Hoping to live another 200 years to see "C'DORE 64" return as a sentient, child-like being.) On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 2:31 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > More space junk for us to send up. > > It’s getting a little ridiculous, > as if whoever is on the receiving end is going to know how to use any of > this Tech, > if it all. >

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