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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] [OT] Very OT…desperately seeking data
by Christopher Gioconda 16 Jul '24

16 Jul '24

Unfortunately the mailing list doesn’t allow for attachments, you’ll need to use a photo sharing service and include the link in your messages. On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 2:15 PM laurakid via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Also, as seen on pic, there is hardware that is visible that looks like it > could perhaps be removed and data extracted from? I was way too optimistic > about my chances based on what wasn’t broken and my outdated idea of how to > connect drives etc. > Oh… and it is and iPhone 11 > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad > > > On Monday, July 1, 2024, 2:09 PM, laurakid <laurakid7(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > That is what I thought too, but apparently even though computer sees the > device, it cannot access data. According to what I have read in forums > this is due to encryption and my inability to get the phone to recognize my > face or to type in my password. > As to recommendations for screen replacement, which I would certainly > consider, the phone was on the side of a highway and run over multiple > times so it may be more than that. If someone knows a third party repair > place they can refer me to I would happily bring it for them to assess. > Thank you all for your insights. I actually thought I was gonna be made > fun of for some reason lol > Here is what phone looks like now: > > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad > > > On Monday, July 1, 2024, 10:05 AM, Sentrytv <sentrytv(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >

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OT - Advice for CRT monitor price
by Chris Fala 16 Jul '24

16 Jul '24

I am looking at a used Sony PVM-97 8" CRT Black and White Video Monitor on eBay. The seller doesn't have pictures of it powered up, so I can't tell if it has burn-in. He is asking about $90 plus shipping. Can someone tell me if they think this is a reasonable price? He has a small quantity available and only provides one picture. Should I demand to see actual pictures of the unit powered up? Thanks, Chris

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] OT - Advice for CRT monitor price
by Dave McGuire 16 Jul '24

16 Jul '24

On 7/16/24 09:38, Hopkins, Justin via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > You think $90 is outrageous, there is someone trying to get over $400 > for one in New Jersey… > There is also one in Bristol CT that they are asking $150. I would > contact that guy and see if they would take $75-$80 and pick up in > person, since shipping CRT’s can be a recipe for disaster. I assume you guys are aware of the fact that shipping has gone completely insane recently, it's not just dicks profiteering on shipping. It actually HAS become more expensive, by a huge amount. I see this directly because I frequently ship packages out. The gamer children (of all ages) have really gone ape-poop over Sony PVMs. Sigh. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] OT - Advice for CRT monitor price
by Bill Degnan 16 Jul '24

16 Jul '24

The Sony's hold up better but I would be patient. It's not too much to ask for an Ebay sale that contains a pic of the monitor in use and 100% feedback seller. I would rather pay more for something I know works and whose seller is a pro and knows how to pack and ship. That said, $99 for a known-working Sony b/w...not bad IMHO Bill On Tue, Jul 16, 2024, 9:39 AM Hopkins, Justin via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > You think $90 is outrageous, there is someone trying to get over $400 for > one in New Jersey… > There is also one in Bristol CT that they are asking $150. I would contact > that guy and see if they would take $75-$80 and pick up in person, since > shipping CRT’s can be a recipe for disaster. > > > From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces(a)lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf > Of CJ Reha via vcf-midatlantic > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2024 9:21 AM > To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > Cc: CJ Reha <thedestructionchannel2000(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] OT - Advice for CRT monitor price > > $90 plus shipping for a monochrome composite video monitor is pretty > outrageous unless there's $75 in cash taped on the inside of the set. I'd > just come to a swap meet and look around, have seen similar show up in the > free pile or for practically > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > This Message Is From an External Sender > This message came from outside your organization. > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > > $90 plus shipping for a monochrome composite video monitor is pretty > > outrageous unless there's $75 in cash taped on the inside of the set. I'd > > just come to a swap meet and look around, have seen similar show up in the > > free pile or for practically nothing. In fact I may have something similar, > > not necessarily Sony, but B&W composite, if you're looking... > > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 9:07 AM Chris Fala via vcf-midatlantic < > > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org<mailto:vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org>> > wrote: > > > > > I am looking at a used Sony PVM-97 8" CRT Black and White Video Monitor > on > > > eBay. The seller doesn't have pictures of it powered up, so I can't tell > if > > > it has burn-in. He is asking about $90 plus shipping. Can someone tell me > > > if they think this is a reasonable price? He has a small quantity > available > > > and only provides one picture. Should I demand to see actual pictures of > > > the unit powered up? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Chris > > > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. > If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized > representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. >

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Minimum requirements for receiving 56K modem connections
by John Heritage 15 Jul '24

15 Jul '24

Hi folks! I'm messing around with a bunch of modems at home, and would like to know what's required to set up one system to receive 56K calls from another system. I'm able to get 33.6kbps bi-directionally (or 31.2K) with just a phone line between the two modems, and using ATX1D and ATA commands. I think to get 56K I require some equipment to simulate a digital connection, and I'm also not sure if a 56K analog modem can even receive 56K calls. Is this true? Modems I have on hand: - a USRobotics Courier I-Modem - 2 x USRobotics V.Everything, and a USRobotics 56K/X2 Sportster external modem I am also unable to get the I-Modem to connect to any of the analog modems, and although it does have the protocols to support analog, it seems like it's expecting a BRI / ISDN connection to allow that connection. Is this true? If the above are true - what's the minimum / cheapest solution for being able to at least establish a V.90 connection given the equipment I have already? Thanks for your help! John

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] 5.25 floppy reader & writer adapter
by Bart Hirst 13 Jul '24

13 Jul '24

Just a heads-up, 5 1/4 drives aren’t supported by DiskFlashback yet, but it’s planned On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 11:38 AM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Now this software may be useful to me I will look into it. Thank you very > much. > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > > On Jul 12, 2024, at 11:31 AM, David Ryskalczyk via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > Check out DiskFlashback. It can be used with a Greaseweazle or other > hardware to do exactly this. > > https://robsmithdev.co.uk/diskflashback > > > > David > > > >>> On Jul 12, 2024, at 10:18 AM, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> On 7/12/24 09:57, Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > >>> One thing I have never understood is why no one has designed and built > >>> a 5.25” floppy drive to USB adapter? > >>> (Like the 3.5” ones see all over.) > >>> Maybe for a Newer PC to Read and Write . > >> > >> Because such a thing would be of limited utility. You could read and > write disks that have one sector format, like the 3.5" versions. They > cannot handle arbitrary sector formats like most real floppy controller > chips with direct access to their configuration registers. > >> > >> One way to deal with this is the Greaseweazle, but that's a pretty > specialized disk imaging tool that requires some knowledge to be able to > use properly. It's not "plug and play" write-me-an-Amiga-disk or whatever, > and it's not intended to be. > >> > >> -Dave > >> > >> -- > >> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ > >> New Kensington, PA > > -- Bart Hirst "This signature will now be eaten up and spit out by Velociraptors."

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] 5.25 floppy reader & writer adapter
by Dave McGuire 13 Jul '24

13 Jul '24

On 7/12/24 09:57, Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > One thing I have never understood is why no one has designed and built > a 5.25” floppy drive to USB adapter? > (Like the 3.5” ones see all over.) > Maybe for a Newer PC to Read and Write . Because such a thing would be of limited utility. You could read and write disks that have one sector format, like the 3.5" versions. They cannot handle arbitrary sector formats like most real floppy controller chips with direct access to their configuration registers. One way to deal with this is the Greaseweazle, but that's a pretty specialized disk imaging tool that requires some knowledge to be able to use properly. It's not "plug and play" write-me-an-Amiga-disk or whatever, and it's not intended to be. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ
by Gregg Levine 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

Hello! I resemble that remark. Teletypes were useful before computers were around to complain about the unit having worse handwriting than the people. Now why is the velociraptor trying to open the doors on building 9015? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8(a)gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 3:23 PM Brian L. Stuart via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 01:28:02PM -0400, Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic wrote: > > Bill, you could not be more wrong. Windows XP was the first computer. A visitor to LSSM told me that a while back. I was so relieved, as that meant I didn't have to deal with these huge heavy boxes anymore. > > > > -Dave > > So I got Computer Science degrees before there were computers? > Cool! That means my time travel experiments do work in the > future...or the past...or sometime. > > BLS >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ
by Bill Degnan 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

The ASR 32 and 33 differ in only a few places many parts are interchangeable. The 33 is the "free terminal" that came with many minicomputers od the 60s like a keyboard and mouse comes with todays' Dell computer. The early homebrew era computers often used asr33 teletypes as the terminal and program storage. That's why a computer hobbyist might want the parts from a free asr32 to use for repairs of a 33. Bill On Fri, Jul 12, 2024, 3:22 PM m simons via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Now I'm curious... what are the "useful parts"? And what would one use > them for? > > On Friday, July 12, 2024 at 12:42:35 PM EDT, Bill Degnan via > vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Also has useful parts. > b > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 12:37 PM Ian Litchfield via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > My thoughts exactly. The M32 can be used for RTTY or interfacing to an > > earlier electromechanical system. Doesn’t need to be a computer. > > > > Adapters can also be fabricated to translate the Baudot into ASCII as > well. > > > > At the end of the day though it’s free, if you get it can you really > > complain? Tinker with it and if it’s not your cup of tea, pass it on to > > someone who will enjoy it! > > > > -Ian L. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 11:56 W2HX via vcf-midatlantic < > > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > > Ethan, I'm pretty sure your M15 and your M32 can talk to each other. > Make > > > sure to wire the M32 selector magnets in parallel for 60mA loop vs > series > > > for 20mA loop and run the loop directly to the selector magnets (I > don't > > > recall if the M32 has a LESU or not). > > > > > > > > > 73 Eugene W2HX > > > My Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces(a)lists.vcfed.org> On > > Behalf > > > Of Ethan Dicks via vcf-midatlantic > > > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2024 11:22 AM > > > To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > > > Cc: Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks(a)gmail.com> > > > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 8:45 AM W2HX via vcf-midatlantic < > > > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > I'm surprised there is so much interest in a baudot machine. > > > > > > Me too. I have one, and I only got it because I also happen to have a > > > Model 15, not that they can talk to each other (being free for the cost > > of > > > gas was an essential point - I wouldn't have paid $$$ for it) > > > > > > -ethan > > > > > > >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ
by Dave McGuire 12 Jul '24

12 Jul '24

It was a joke, son, I say, I say, a joke! -Dave On July 12, 2024 1:34:25 PM "Hopkins, Justin via vcf-midatlantic" <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > ---------- > RE: [vcf-midatlantic] Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ > From: Hopkins, Justin Justin.Hopkins(a)broadridge.com > Date: Jul 12, 1:34 PM > To: vcf-midatlantic vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org > > Yet every IBM mainframe still uses EBCDIC 60 years after it was introduced….. > > > From: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic-bounces(a)lists.vcfed.org> On Behalf Of Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2024 1:28 PM > To: vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> > Cc: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> > Subject: Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Free ASR32 on Facebook Marketplace in NJ > > On July 12, 2024 11: 47: 06 AM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic@ lists. vcfed. org> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 11: 38 AM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic@ lists. vcfed. org> wrote: >> > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > This Message Is From an External Sender > This message came from outside your organization. > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > > On July 12, 2024 11:47:06 AM Bill Degnan via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org<mailto:vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org>> wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 11:38 AM Dave McGuire via vcf-midatlantic < > >> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org<mailto:vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org>> wrote: > >>> On July 12, 2024 11:22:06 AM Ethan Dicks via vcf-midatlantic < > >>> vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org<mailto:vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org>> wrote: > >>>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 8:45 AM W2HX via vcf-midatlantic > >>>> <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org<mailto:vcf-midatlantic@lists.vcfed.org>> wrote: > >>>>> I'm surprised there is so much interest in a baudot machine. > >>>> > >>>> Me too. I have one, and I only got it because I also happen to have a > >>>> Model 15, not that they can talk to each other (being free for the > >>>> cost of gas was an essential point - I wouldn't have paid $$$ for it) > >>> > >>> Not all Teletype applications involve computers, or computers that speak > >>> ASCII. > >>> > >> Are you sure because the first PC, the IBM PC from the 1980's I think uses > >> ascii I think. > > > > Bill, you could not be more wrong. Windows XP was the first computer. A visitor to LSSM told me that a while back. I was so relieved, as that meant I didn't have to deal with these huge heavy boxes anymore. > > > > -Dave > > > > -- > > Dave McGuire, AK4HZ > > New Kensington, PA > > > > > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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