March 2022 - vcf-midatlantic

RE: A clearer way to describe InfoAge buildings
by David Hayden 23 Mar '22

23 Mar '22

* I can of course provide maps such as [...] InfoAge created maps that are on the website This is an InfoAge problem, and that's a hard "nope" on providing InfoAge maps that correspond to your descriptions. I suppose they may be buried in their website somewhere, but hell if I can find them. Without a map, your detailed descriptions, which I really do appreciate, are of little use. Googling "infoage map", here is the first link: https://infoage.org/campus-map-feb-21-2019/ This leads to https://infoage.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/campus-map-feb-21-2019.pdf, which has letter designations only. If you go to their home page and click "visit", you'll find a link to this "campus map" with locations designated 1 through 18: https://infoage.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/TourMap_16x20_self-download.… If you do a google image search on "info age map" you have to scroll down a page or two to find a vcf map that contains 9010-D, 9000 and 9032-A. The bottom line is that I spent 15 minutes unsuccessfully trying to find a map that corresponds to your descriptions. That's about 14 minutes and 45 seconds longer than a casual visitor would spend. So either InfoAge's maps need to change to use our designations or our designations need to change to follow InfoAge's maps. Since the buildings themselves have the 4-digit numbers on them, I think InfoAge should use those on their maps. That way a visitor walking around could tell where they are. Dave

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A clearer way to describe InfoAge buildings
by Jeffrey Brace 22 Mar '22

22 Mar '22

Whenever I talk about a building at InfoAge I use the original building designations to make it objective in the description. Otherwise I would have to come up with several subjective descriptions that are different and lengthy and vary based on the person. I've been wondering what I could do to help people understand which building I'm talking about without getting into a lengthy description. The original building numbers are painted on each of the buildings (i.e. 9032). There are different sections of each building (i.e. A, B, C, D). The subjective description for 9032-A is "where we have the vcf east exhibits", "where we used to have our repair workshops", "the big open room", "the big room down the ramp from the ballroom", "Where the World of IBM was last year". I can of course provide maps such as through Google Maps, InfoAge created maps that are on the website, or maps that VCF members have created. I've even thought about taking photographs and video walkthroughs to make it clearer. Here are some common buildings that I refer to. It starts out with the official objective designation followed by a subjective one: 9001 - "The Hotel", "The Marconi Hotel", "The Red Brick Building", "The one with the front desk and lobby", "The main building", "The one by the front gates". It Includes a few museums, the lobby, front desk, administrative offices, dining room. 9032 - Includes for sections labeled A, B, C, D. Section A is where we have exhibits, repair workshops, etc, Section B is the shipwreck museum Section C are many museums that go to the hallway heading toward the radio museum Section D is the radio museum. Broadway - Long hallway which is the backbone of the "H" building which includes four long buildings 9010, 9011, 9036, 9037. Each of these has 4 sections with a letter: A, B, C, D. 9010 - Includes four sections labeled A, B, C, D. Section A - VCF museum, Model train museum, Wireless telegraph museum Section B - Unfinished space, future VCF Museum (4.0) Section C - "Where we had consignment at VCF East", Cafeteria, future Radar and Electronic warfare museum. Section D - "Where we have the main talks at VCF East", Bunkrooms and bathrooms 9011 - Sections A, B, C, D, Military Vehicles Museum and storage. 9036 - Section A - VCF Warehouse Section B - Empty Section C - Future VCF warehouse. Section D - Storage 9037 - Section A - Storage Section B - Storage Section C - Storage Section D - Storage 9059 - "CDL", "IXR", "Where we have our repair workshops". Building with a room that is called "The Classroom" and is used by many groups and another room which is the workbench area and CDL's space. There are many other buildings with numbers, but these are the most common ones that I refer to. So how could I make it clearer to each of you so that you know what I'm talking about when I say 9032-A for example? ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] A clearer way to describe InfoAge buildings
by Jeffrey Brace 22 Mar '22

22 Mar '22

On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:07 AM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > A point of reference like the parking lot is where are you can start. > If using this picture as a reference one should put the building numbers > on top of the buildings including designations A B C, > And use such as “computer museum” > This is the thought that I had for the VCF East map that I want created. So it's good to see that others are thinking the same thing. Thanks everyone! > > > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > On Mar 22, 2022, at 10:49 AM, Dave Shevett via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Using 'cute names' or names that are only known to people with history > with the site is always problematic. By far the best way to do this > is use the building numbers (since they're written on the buildings), > and always refer to the map when talking about the site. > > For example - this map: > > https://vcfed.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/479767B5-C6BD-46AE-B356-E38… > > Is only partially helpful. If someone says "Where is the VCF museum?" > - i can't look at that map and say "It's building 1111. Over there to > the left" - the map has some numbers, and some 'current use' > descriptions, but I'd have a hard time directing someone to a location > from that reference. > > Absolute locations (building numbers), with tsecondary "current use" > labels I think is the best approach. > > I'm happy to work on this if you'd like. > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:39 AM Jeffrey Brace via vcf-midatlantic > <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > > Whenever I talk about a building at InfoAge I use the original building > > designations to make it objective in the description. Otherwise I would > > have to come up with several subjective descriptions that are different > and > > lengthy and vary based on the person. > > > > I've been wondering what I could do to help people understand which > > building I'm talking about without getting into a lengthy description. > The > > original building numbers are painted on each of the buildings (i.e. > 9032). > > There are different sections of each building (i.e. A, B, C, D). The > > subjective description for 9032-A is "where we have the vcf east > exhibits", > > "where we used to have our repair workshops", "the big open room", "the > big > > room down the ramp from the ballroom", "Where the World of IBM was last > > year". > > > > I can of course provide maps such as through Google Maps, InfoAge created > > maps that are on the website, or maps that VCF members have created. I've > > even thought about taking photographs and video walkthroughs to make it > > clearer. > > > > Here are some common buildings that I refer to. It starts out with the > > official objective designation followed by a subjective one: > > 9001 - "The Hotel", "The Marconi Hotel", "The Red Brick Building", "The > one > > with the front desk and lobby", "The main building", "The one by the > front > > gates". It Includes a few museums, the lobby, front desk, > > administrative offices, dining room. > > 9032 - Includes for sections labeled A, B, C, D. > > Section A is where we have exhibits, repair workshops, etc, > > Section B is the shipwreck museum > > Section C are many museums that go to the hallway heading toward the > radio > > museum > > Section D is the radio museum. > > > > Broadway - Long hallway which is the backbone of the "H" building which > > includes four long buildings 9010, 9011, 9036, 9037. Each of these has 4 > > sections with a letter: A, B, C, D. > > > > 9010 - Includes four sections labeled A, B, C, D. > > Section A - VCF museum, Model train museum, Wireless telegraph museum > > Section B - Unfinished space, future VCF Museum (4.0) > > Section C - "Where we had consignment at VCF East", Cafeteria, future > Radar > > and Electronic warfare museum. > > Section D - "Where we have the main talks at VCF East", Bunkrooms and > > bathrooms > > > > 9011 - Sections A, B, C, D, Military Vehicles Museum and storage. > > > > 9036 - > > Section A - VCF Warehouse > > Section B - Empty > > Section C - Future VCF warehouse. > > Section D - Storage > > > > 9037 - > > Section A - Storage > > Section B - Storage > > Section C - Storage > > Section D - Storage > > > > 9059 - "CDL", "IXR", "Where we have our repair workshops". Building with > a > > room that is called "The Classroom" and is used by many groups and > another > > room which is the workbench area and CDL's space. > > > > There are many other buildings with numbers, but these are the most > common > > ones that I refer to. > > > > So how could I make it clearer to each of you so that you know what I'm > > talking about when I say 9032-A for example? > > > > ========================================= > > Jeff Brace > > VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President > > Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner > > Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity > > http://www.vcfed.org/ > > jeffrey(a)vcfed.org > > > > -- > Dave Shevett > shevett(a)pobox.com > >

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PDP-11 topics again.
by Dave Shevett 21 Mar '22

21 Mar '22

I would be keen on coming down for the repair fest with my 11/73 if someone has a spare KDJ11 CPU board that I can swap into this chassis to see if this is the ONLY fault I'm seeing. I've found other boards on ebay but the lowest price is $400, and that's a lot of money to toss out when I'm not sure the rest of hte machine is functional. Anyone got a board I can test with? I don't... know if a low end CPU will work here (IE an 11/03 or an 11/05). I'm willing to strip the backplane and try it with the serial boards. -- Dave Shevett shevett(a)pobox.com

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VCF East 2022 - Pre Event Survey
by Jeffrey Brace 21 Mar '22

21 Mar '22

VCF has paid for the Advantage plan from Survey Monkey to collect feedback from members. Rick Lewis our newest volunteer with considerable work experience with survey creation, has created a survey for VCF East 2022. Please fill out this brief survey to help us to create better events for everyone: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/X3KRG5L This is an anonymous survey that will help us plan our events. Keep in mind that we are learning as we go along so our surveys will get better as we get more experience with what to ask. We will have a post event survey for VCF East. Thanks so much for your help! ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Free iMacs (2002 white)
by Bill Degnan 20 Mar '22

20 Mar '22

I have two 2002 white imacs free to a good home. Pickup only @ kennett classic. I think OSX is installed, comes with OS media, keyboard, but no mouse. I have other free items.there too, still spring cleaning. Will list asap. First come first served, no exceptions, but feel free to call/contact ahead via kennettclassic.com. Bill

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(OT) Need person with local knowledge
by Martin Flynn 20 Mar '22

20 Mar '22

In the VCF museum (building 9010A) there is an access point I can see on the controller, however cannot connect to it. Model: UAP-AC-Pro MAC: fc:ec:da:a3:75:1e Version: 4.0.21 If it's not supporting VCF infrastructure, can we coordinate a reset so I can upgrade it and adopt it on the controller? Martin Flynn

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InfoAge Lecture Series - VCF's turn - July, August, September, 2022
by Jeffrey Brace 20 Mar '22

20 Mar '22

So InfoAge has different organizations inviting speakers to come give a talk. Everyone pays the regular admission fee for seeing the museums. The goal is to get more people to come to the museums and to get noticed more widely. Events are listed here: https://infoage.org/events/ Each organization has a quarter of the year (3 months) to invite speakers to come. VCF is tasked with coming up with speakers for July, August and September, 2022. I have ideas for many speakers which include those who couldn't make it to VCF East, but wanted to get ideas from you on this list. If anyone has any suggestions for speakers, please let me know. It is preferable that they are in the mid-atlantic region because the budget for paying for speaker travel expenses is limited. ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Repair Workshop next weekend 3/26 & 3/27
by Jeffrey Brace 20 Mar '22

20 Mar '22

Some people didn't notice my e-mail from a week ago, so I'm reposting here. We have a Repair Workshop at InfoAge next weekend 3/26 & 3/27. Here is the signup sheet: < https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XjiP43FAblQ2XCygWE4F71nan_1kKwVbKRl… > Also, there is an NJ Maker's Day on 3/26 from 12PM to 5PM that InfoAge is participating in. VCF will have 3 tables in the dining room of 9001 Dean, Andy, Bart and I will be running the BASIC for beginners display. We will have an IBM 5150, Commodore 64, Atari 800, Apple 2, and TRS-80. I hope to see everyone there! ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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OT:
by Neil Cherry 16 Mar '22

16 Mar '22

I'm also posting this on the CDL group. I'm not cc'ing them here (not polite). I'm playing with a video walk through of our CDL Makerspace and I'd like to edit the video before posting to Youtube. I've not done any of this before so any pointers? -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry(a)linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies

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