March 2022 - vcf-midatlantic

Tektronix 2213A scopes for sale
by Mike Loewen 04 Mar '22

04 Mar '22

I have two Tektronix 2213A oscilloscopes for sale, FOB VCE East (April 22-24). These two scopes were used in a university environment, and are in working condition: controls fairly clean, sharp display, some tape and sticker residue. The lever on the Vertical Mode channel selector on unit 1 has broken off, but there's enough of a nub that it's easily switched. These scopes will be at VCE East on April 22-24 for pickup. No probes, power cords, covers or manuals are included. The Operator and Service manuals are freely available online in PDF form. Pictures available here: http://q7.neurotica.com/Tektronix/ Best offer over $60 for each unit. Please contact me OFF-LIST with offers. Mike Loewen mloewen(a)cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

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WTB: Atari ST SH314 floppy drive and SC1224 monitor
by Joseph Giliberti 04 Mar '22

04 Mar '22

Greetings! Title says it all. Only interested in working pieces. Not interested in risking sending a CRT through the mail. Let me know what you have privately. Thanks! Joe Giliberti

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Old Topic : vendor early access. New topic: Positive suggestions for next swap meet.
by Jeffrey Brace 03 Mar '22

03 Mar '22

On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 2:39 PM Sentrytv via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > Please let this topic go. > I think everybody’s getting sick of this topic already. > Mike, I agree. I will be taking all of the suggestions and creating a survey to get some more organized feedback. I no longer need any more thoughts or comments posted to this list at this time. Thanks! Jeff > > Don’t you all think it would be best if we just suggested positive changes > to the next swap meet before people get fed up and decide that swap meets > will be cut completely? > > New topic > Positive suggestions for the next swap meet. > > Mike Rosen > > Sent from: > My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. > > On Mar 3, 2022, at 2:26 PM, skogkatt007--- via vcf-midatlantic < > vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > <mime-attachment> >

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Swap Meet feedback: vendor early access
by Jeffrey Brace 03 Mar '22

03 Mar '22

Hello everyone, I appreciate all the feedback, comments, and thoughts. Whether they are positive, negative or neutral they are all appreciated and heard. There are undoubtedly others who feel the same way as all of you with various thoughts and opinions. This is the third time that we have run a swap meet and each time we learn from the experience. This was also the first indoor one, so lots of growing pains. We started out not knowing how to do a swap meet but having general event planning. Somethings worked well, some not so well. Each time we learned from our mistakes and made things better the next time. I will be taking all of what was discussed here when I plan the next swap meet for October 8, 2022. Thanks so much everyone! Jeff Brace On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 2:26 PM skogkatt007--- via vcf-midatlantic < vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > A conversation becomes silly when people persist with silly assumptions > about why an opinion was expressed. Let it go already. > > On Thursday, March 3, 2022, 02:14:54 PM EST, Ethan O'Toole via > vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > What is it that you missed out on? If you mention what you are looking for > ... amazing things happen. > > > [NON-Text Body part not included] > >

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16 station MidiMaze Atari FPS @ VCF East 2022
by Ethan O'Toole 03 Mar '22

03 Mar '22

Hello, An idea came to mind as a friend was repairing a bunch of Atari 8bit systems. There is a game called MidiMaze, where you can network up to 16 Atari 8bit (and supposedly ST systems) together. It's a first person shooter with smiley faces. I can find talk of 11 station system being setup, but was thinking it would be cool to do a 16 player station @ VCF. I am having PCBs made right now for all the carts, all of the midi interfaces, as well as fujinet boards for machines. I can definitely populate the carts and midi interfaces, will try to do Fujinets depending on ESP32 availability. It requires XL or XE, 64K of RAM. I have 3 machines, my friend has ~7. So we would be looking for the final systems to fill out this project. I have a spreadsheet I will post once I get my counts and Reggies system count. The current idea/dream is to run on physical Midi interfaces for the first half of VCF, then cut over to fujinet where the midi network is created over TCP/IP. We won't be loading the game from fujinet I don't think since we will have the carts and the fujinet version of the game requires a RAM expansion. Just easier to run carts. Will try to use an automated script to hit the web servers on the fujinet based on DHCP lease MAC address info and autoconfigure it all. Thoughts? Hype? How many Atari XL/XE does VCF have? - Ethan

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Old Topic : vendor early access. New topic: Positive suggestions for next swap meet.
by Sentrytv 03 Mar '22

03 Mar '22

Please let this topic go. I think everybody’s getting sick of this topic already. Don’t you all think it would be best if we just suggested positive changes to the next swap meet before people get fed up and decide that swap meets will be cut completely? New topic Positive suggestions for the next swap meet. Mike Rosen Sent from: My extremely complicated, hand held electronic device. On Mar 3, 2022, at 2:26 PM, skogkatt007--- via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: <mime-attachment>

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Swap Meet feedback: vendor early access
by Ethan O'Toole 03 Mar '22

03 Mar '22

What is it that you missed out on? If you mention what you are looking for ... amazing things happen. > [NON-Text Body part not included]

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Re: [vcf-midatlantic] Swap Meet feedback: vendor early access
by Ian Primus 03 Mar '22

03 Mar '22

I'm having a hard time understanding what you want. It sounds like you want to have early access to the show. Which you can do - all you have to do is pay the vendor admission fee. You chose not to. This is simply how swap meets and hamfests work. I can understand the frustration, not getting a chance at something, or seeing someone else walking off with something you wanted to buy, but, that's just how sales of anything work. You can't not allow vendors to have early access to buying stuff from each other, because, well... they have to be in there early in order to set up. Not to mention, most of the sellers already know each other. Many trades and sales were worked out days ago. One source of frustration that I see a simple solution to, is how many sales happened before the show, privately, via email, based on uploaded spreadsheets and lists of things vendors were going to bring for sale. Sure, it's frustrating if you're not checking the spreadsheets regularly, and miss out that way - but what's worse is when the item in question is physically at the show, there at a table as if it's out for sale, with no way of knowing that it's already been sold. I know at least one person that stood at a vendor's table for an hour, waiting for the vendor to return, trying to buy an item, only to find that it had been sold days before. Simple solution to this. If something is sold, either don't bring it in to your table, or put a SOLD sign on it. It should be easily clear to anyone walking around if an item is available or not. You can't pretend you can block presales, vendor to vendor sales before the event, etc. It just needs to be done in such a way as to not mislead other buyers. -Ian On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 4:03 PM skogkatt007--- via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > Nothing in your response changes the fact that sellers are granted exclusive early access. There is no way that can be called fair, regardless of what is done wherever else. > > I was going to stay out.of this conversation. But upon hearing repeatedly how vendors should own the whole show, And then there was those who brag about reselling items found the very same day at a significant markup. I just couldn't keep silent. Don't get me wrong most of the vendors I dealt with were fair and respectable. There is no way to prevent every instance of impropriety. But you don't have to lay out the red carpet for those simply looking to gouge. I guess I'm not supposed to use words like that. > Oh and this is not about "money", mine or someone else's. Nor is it about "anger". I did leave the show a little angry, still am. I'm actually grieving at this point. I passed up 2 items, 1 was free, the other was 20$ and didn't work. Maybe neither did. It wasn't that I could have made a killing on either. I just wanted them. > > > On Wednesday, March 2, 2022, 02:39:50 PM EST, Dean Notarnicola <dnotarnicola(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > “One person’s trash is another’s treasure” holds true here. What one may consider a golden discovery may have been overlooked by many others. I was finding things I wanted well into the swap meet. > Speaking strictly for myself, my three tables were not nearly enough space to display all I had for sale, so it came out in batches over the course of the morning. Persistence was rewarded for those who came back for second or third looks. > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 2:25 PM skogkatt007--- via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > I was not exhibiting anger, but a measure of frustration at continually hearing how vendors are the whole show. I had a reasonably good time at this show, more so the last albeit. > > There's nothing wrong with suggesting the rules be made more fair. Feedback was requested and provided. If ⁴4people want to pretend that something less then a gushing review constitutes anger, that's their business. > On Wednesday, March 2, 2022, 02:09:17 PM EST, Herb Johnson via vcf-midatlantic <vcf-midatlantic(a)lists.vcfed.org> wrote: > > > skogkatt007 at yahoo.com skogkatt007 at yahoo.com > > Wed Mar 2 11:19:11 UTC 2022 > > A lot of anger in that response. It's fact of experience, that some > people will be angry about money; theirs or someone else's. > > This poster, myself, and others, have suggested a number of rules > followed by various organizations at various times. To me that makes a > point, that there's not a single classic solution to these matters of > what is sold when to whom, or who is charged for access to these events. > > Resolutions and rules won't please everyone; and as pointed out, rules > can be circumvented. Practices and rules state an intention, and > intentions are half the battle. The rest is up to individuals, as they > act or not. > > That's what I draw from the discussion. > > Regards, Herb Johnson > > > -- > Herbert R. Johnson, New Jersey in the USA > http://www.retrotechnology.com OR .net > preserve, recover, restore 1970's computing > email: hjohnson AT retrotechnology DOT com > or try later herbjohnson AT comcast DOT net > > >

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Survey Results of Swap Meet 2022 Feb
by Jeffrey Brace 03 Mar '22

03 Mar '22

So Rick Lewis our newest volunteer to join our group asked to help do a survey for the swap meet. It was simple, and not necessarily comprehensive, but has some useful information. He wants to help me develop more surveys to help me plan, organize and focus the events that we organize. This was our first attempt, so it is a good start. Here's the results of the survey at the swap meet on 25 Feb 2022: 50 participants were asked two questions at the entrances to the swap meet rooms - all attendees, no vendors. Q1. Have you been to a VCF swap meet before? [ Y/N ] Q2. How did you find out about this swap meet? Results: - The majority (70%) were first-time attendees, having not been to a previous swap meet. - The *VCF Website* (38%) was the greatest source of knowledge about the swap meet by a factor of nearly 3 times more than the second source (*Other; From a Friend*) at 14%. - 12% knew about the event from the amateur radio club, matching the number who heard about it from social media (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram) - The VCF Flyer (0%) and the VCF Mid-Atlantic List were not productive sources. Complete data can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1n0s7OGtICCW6gEcztPRX-IYho_cuDKfV/ed… ========================================= Jeff Brace VCF National Board Member Chairman & Vice President Vintage Computer Festival East Showrunner Vintage Computer Federation is a 501c3 charity http://www.vcfed.org/ jeffrey(a)vcfed.org

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Wait all these guys from Commodore are coming?
by Christian Liendo 02 Mar '22

02 Mar '22

If I read this correctly https://vcfed.org/wp/events/vintage-computer-festival-east/vcf-east-schedul… We are going to have Bil Herd, Dave Haynie, Andy Finkel, Al Charpentier, Benny Pruden, Bob Russell, Neil Harris and Joe Myshko!?! First of all this is great, second we need to be telling people about this. I'm glad I hot my hotel stuff done

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